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Posted 2/12/2006 5:52 PM (GMT 0)
leelee i would report that rhuemy doc to the  state dept in your licensing state as that doc was supposed to give you a TB tine test 72 hours before he let you have that in the first place.

 

i had a TB tine test done on monday and by friday i had to go back to the rhuemy office so his nurse coudl read it, it was negative.

 

he is a bad doc for at least not doiing that much for you.

thankfully you didnt die from the shot, had you died it would have been a statistic but unless your family got an atty to sue them the doc would have blamed it on your sinus infection and not on the drug, this is one way the drug companies can get away with murder as they pin it on something else.

 

dont take that drug again i would say or anyone other one like it

Posted 2/12/2006 6:26 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Lee:


I'm glad your pain has eased. I talked to someone else the other day who had also had a severe reaction to her first injection HUMIRA and I can't imagine how frightening it must be. I saw one of my REMICADE infusion buddies go into reaction and just watching it was scary....he had been on the med for about 3 yrs.

You never said, I don't think, were you at home when you took your first injection. Had you been told how to do it at all? If you were alone, I think that is outrageous...I was told by the HUMIRA-Progress Program staff, to be with my rheumy or a nurse when I did my first injection so that they could oversee it. My neighbor is an RN so rather than driving all the way to the city I was with her for my first two injections and took my last one alone on Wed and it went fine.

I have heard scary stuff about prednisone too but it has done good thing for many so I hope you are one of those. You deserve to feel better. Hang in there!!

take care and hope to talk to you soon ... drop me an email if you have time
Posted 2/12/2006 8:55 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks, Curley. I appreciate the response. I am so glad Humira has helped you. I should not even complain. I have just this rheumatoid. I can not imagine dealing with those others also. Then I get afraid I may get more of those diseases. I look forward to getting the new rheumatologist this Tuesday. The SSD is just secondary now. I just hope to get better, but I have worked since I was 14. I was the lead teacher for my school and also my school's and district's teacher of the year last year. I bought a formal gown and shoes to go to the state awards banquet but could not even walk then. We got a big raise this year, and I am a top paid teacher. Anyway, all that is just to say that why can't anyone believe I would work if I could? SSD would only be a fraction of what I make, but it would help out, especially with the medical. I am trying to get better to live a decent life. I cannot even consider work. We will see how these new doctors treat this situation. I am just happy now to be better. :)
Posted 2/12/2006 9:09 PM (GMT 0)
Missie, I had read in all of the Humira information phamplets and sites that the TB test was required. I was shocked that he did not at least ask me about it, but no, no test was given. I am glad that you mentioned this because it worried me lots. I thought maybe it was somehow optional although it did not sound like it was. My mom's mom and dad both died of TB and mother always tested positive to it. This may have made me susceptible in a way. I just don't know, but he did not mention TB or anything. Actually, he did not say he was putting me on it. He just mentioned it. The nurse gave me a Cd and phamplet. I imagine she put me on it without consulting with the doc at all. This is what I think. Maybe I will call the Humira people about that. I really understood that we would discuss it when I went back the first of March. The Humira came two days after that by air to my house. At the time I did not even know if my insurance would pay or not. They did. Actually, they paid all but $50. I do think I will check into reporting this doctor. I wonder if the doctor is responsible for his nurse practictioner or can she just do whatever?
Posted 2/13/2006 2:46 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Lee:

I'm glad missie mentioned the TB test too. I had forgotten about it. I had to take one before they would put me on REMICADE, as well as having a chest xray.... and I was asked if I had had them before going on the HUMIRA. That is something else you should report to the people with the HUMIRA program...I don't think that rheumy should be allowed to prescribe it, or any other biologic.

It sounds to me like he should be a mechanic and not deal with anything living...his nurse could help him too from the sounds of it....they sure don't seem to care about their patients.

Good luck with the new rheumy....I'm sure glad I changed!!

Take care Lee
Posted 2/13/2006 3:23 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks Cindy. I wouldn't want that pair working on my car:), as I couldn't trust them to do the basics. :) hahaahha I just saw your post from earlier. I went to the Health Department to take my first injection as it is an hour's drive to the rheumatologist and my general doctor would not let me come. The Health Department nurse was sweet and nice and encouraged me to do it myself so that I would feel more secure the next time. She watched and supervised each part, but I did it. :)) I liked this idea also. I would have been comfortable giving the next ones myself. The reaction did not happen until a couple of hours later. First I just got a really bad headache that never went away. I do not have headaches. Anyway, it went from there. BTW, I now have a new general doctor after 20 years. He made me mad that he or one of his nurses could not supervise my first injection. He has not supported me during this whole rheumatoid thing. I had to make him test me after asking 3 times. I tested high positive just as I knew I would. Then he sent me home with nothing and a 3 month wait to see the rheumatologist. I had to be carried in to ask him for something to get me by until I saw the specialist. I said, doc, I will be totally crippled in 3 months. He said that he did not doubt that... I am going duhhhhh. The emergency room doc said that he could not believe that with rheumatoid like I had that neither my general doc or the rheummy had given me anything for pain during flareups. My general doc wrote to the state and to social security that my rheumatoid was better and I was doing fairly well. Yeah, I was happy to be able to brush my own teeth. I was better. I feel that my general doc is not as concerned or caring as he should be. I feel that what he reported about my condition are intentional lies to prevent me from getting disability. He sees me. He knows for a fact that I cannot work at all. I will have new docs all around. I am happy because with any luck, I can do better. :)
Posted 2/13/2006 4:13 AM (GMT 0)
leelee if you suffer from any long term consequences of this drug i would call an atty to consult with them as your doc was negligent in not getting you to take that tb test.

i would also report him to your state authoritis for not following protocol for dispending a drug with out doing the prerequistes for administring it. i am not sue happy but this guy didnt even bother to read or know waht he was doing and if he is doing this to otehrs, they could die from it if he continues on his merry way

Posted 2/13/2006 9:39 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Lee:

You are so right....what was I thinking... cars have feelings too LOL

I can't help but wonder why these people went into medicine...in too many cases I'm afraid it was just for the jingle in their pockets as they seem to care so little about the quality of life of their patients.

Earlier in chat it was discussed that perhaps we could all treat our 'wannabe' doctors for one day...and they would, of course, have to have whatever we are seeing them for. Would be nice to have the shoe on the other foot for awhile, and let them know what the pain is like.

Good luck with the new docs Lee...I hope you are as fortunate and pleased with yours as I am with both of mine....talk about night and day differences wow.
Posted 2/14/2006 3:58 AM (GMT 0)
Missie, I am seeing the new rheumatologist tomorrow. I am going to ask if there is any kind of way that they could have tested for TB through the regular bloodwork. If not, I am going to report him because I got a copy of my records. The records say that he discussed the Humira with me. This is not true. Also he wrote lies on my records claiming that I am fine and have no synovial joints and have no nodules or swelling. He says I am doing well and my arthritis is doing better and that I have no damage to my bones or joints. My question is if this is true what was his rush with the Humira? Also why was he continually increasing my methotrexate? It is apparent that he lied in writing to prevent me from getting my social security disability. I see even with your terrible crash and injuries that it took you 2.5 years. I feel that was not necessary. I hope they paid you back pay for all that time. I am sorry that you had to wait so long. I think I won't get it ever, but it sad when a doctor just flat out lies. He knows I am totally not able to work. I am not even able to live independently. Thanks :)) for the support.
Posted 2/14/2006 4:18 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks, Cindy. I just am happy to have the new doctor. I hope she is good. I am very hopeful. The emergency room doc that got me this appointment said that she is very good and spends time with her patients. Just maybe she will care. The SS disability is very secondary to all of this. To me, a doctor should be able to tell though and just be fair. I can't ask or mention the SSD until she gets to see me for a few times. Right now I have 2 steroid shots in me and a packet of Methylprednisone that I finish up on Wednesday morning. The prednisone has done so much for the inflamation and swelling and my mobility. This is probably the best I have been in a long time, except for the face and jaw pain. Once I stepped down on the prednisone a bit, it is back hurting. When I got the second shot Friday afternoon and the 6 pills of prednisone, I really was in good shape. Today I only had 3 of the tablets so I am not so free of pain. I will let y'all know how the new doc turns out. She is an Asian lady rheummy. Thanks for your support.
Posted 2/14/2006 6:39 AM (GMT 0)
leelee i can tell you from past experience that your doc is doing what is called practicing DEFENSIVE medicine, in other words he is trying to cover his ***.

of course he is lying. you need to drop him like a ahot potato and i do not think they can test blood for tb.

 

if they could do that then my rhuemy prolly would have made me do that as i had  a whole gamet of bloods panels done initially.

 

and if he did test you for it then he should have told you that you already tested negative when you bring up the fact that the drug insert calls for a tb test to be done.

that would have been his chance to have told you well i tested you for it already with your bloods and it came back neg.

that doc is reeming you. he is a fraud. if you can report him to anyone who will listen and get copies of any paper work to substantiate your issues.

let me know how this plays out, and he is not helpful towards your ss case either, you have the right to make a note to him and it then becomes a part of your medical file in which he MUST put into your records.

you should write a letter to him to cover your *** and say that you were

NOT Tested for the tB that you know of, and that you had a reaction to the shot and you had to g oto the hospital.

also, in that note say your arthritis is AWFUL and you have told him of your compliants many many times and this is why you ar assuming that he prescribing the humira for your ARTHRITIC condition.

 

he has to by law put that not into yourfile and when ss requests his file to review they will see your note in your file contrary to your docs notes.

Posted 2/14/2006 2:37 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks, Missie. I am going to do all of that starting today. All that sounds like very good suggestions. I am also going to try to report him. First I am going to officially report him to the Humira and BioPlus companies. Then I may try to go through our state attorney general to see what else can be done. I will write him the note though. Also, I do have an attorney friend. I think first I will call him and talk. For all the good doctors out there, this one needs sued. If I am so fine and well, he had no business giving me such serious drugs that have so many bad and even fatal sideeffects. I have never sued a person in my life, even after two bad car wrecks; I asked only for my hospital and therapy bills to be paid. Also, he had no business sending the Humira to my house without ever discussing it one bit. I got a copy of the paper he sent to BioPlus to have it delivered to my home. It stated that he discussed the Humira and the pros and cons of the drug and that I agreed to take it. That is very much not true. The nurse practictioner came into the exam room with the phamplet and CD of Humira. She handed them to me. The doc then said I will see you in two months and left. When I got home I came on the net to see about the drug and found this forum. I thought I had until March 6 to decide. I thought I would go back to the doc then and we would discusss it. After it came to the house two days later, I took it. Then when I got a copy of my records, it said on there that they discussed the pros and cons and I agreed to take it. I can't prove that this is a lie. The records do not say that I was tested for TB, so if they add that, I will have proof from the original records that they did not. My first submission to the forum here shows that I am trying to decide whether to take it or not. Other than that and my family, I have no proof that I did not discuss it throughly with the doc and agree. I am going to try to get all of my records. All I get is these print out things. I am sure they can add notes or anything to my folder. I want everything. I need to ask the lawyer if I can get my entire folder from that doctor. thanks for all the help. LeeLee
Posted 2/14/2006 3:35 PM (GMT 0)
leelee by law you are allowed to see your report history taken by this doctor so long as you sign a consent form if you go there, you can sign it, and take the reports charts etc home with you right away.or they can send them to you if they are too busy to get it for you then.

 

this would show any bloods done, the results of them, and any tests he ordererd also.

 

i know about making a letter to my own files because of a doctor who operated on me and it was not needed, so i added some stuff to my own doctors file.

 

be careful what you write in your letter to him.

it must be factual and dated and signed by you.

 it would not be wise to put anything libelious slanderous in the note, keep it to the point that you believe that you didnt know you had to take a tb test and you believe one was not done, or if it was done  you did not learn of any results to sway your decision of taking humira or not.

 

you should make sure you keep a diary of any thing else that you notice that is wrongwith you since you took this drug that you didnt have before. any new conditions. it is important that if you got any brusing or rashes from the drug to take photos of it also or any new condition yoususpect is from the humira.

after you gather everything, take it to your officals who licsence doctors and make a complaint.

 

Posted 2/14/2006 4:22 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Lee:

As you may remember, I am in Canada and perhaps they do things differently here. I was just thinking about the hoops I had to jump through to get on REMICADE, and not quite so many with HUMIRA because I had already been on a biologic.

Before I was put on REMICADE, I had meet certain criteria...I had to have 'failed' on several medications, which I had, (gold injections, methotrexate, arava) and also they did an assessment on me to get the number of tender and or swollen joints. The new doctor assessed my joints as well before prescribing the HUMIRA, and I have to see her every three months for reassessment. The way our health insurance works with it here is that I am approved for 3 months at a time and then reassessed to see if it is helping me etc. There was also a paper I had to fill out for each assessment which addressed my pain level (for both the past week, and the past 24 hrs) and several things which I had to mark as 'can do', 'can do with some difficulty', 'can do with great difficulty', or 'cannot do'.... things like turning on a regular faucet, getting out of bed, dressing myself, bathing, picking up an item from the floor, lifting a full glass of water etc.

I am just wondering if you had any kind of assessment like that done, and as I mentioned, it might be different in Canada. If you did, that assessment would also be an indication of the severity of your RA.

As missie mentioned, I don't think there is a blood test for TB. They injected a small 'bubble' of serum just under my skin and then I had to have it checked 2-3 days or so later to see if it was inflamed or anything, which it wasn't, hence my test was negative. I also was sent for a chest xray as another precaution/check.

Take care my friend and good luck
Posted 2/15/2006 3:12 AM (GMT 0)
Hi :)!!!!!! Thanks again for all of that information. Y'all have helped me so much. I do appreciate it all. Here is the update. I saw the new rheumatologist today. She asked lots of questions. She said that it was bad that they did not do a TB test as that is general procedure. She asked why had I been put on Humira. I told her that my records said that the doctor discussed the Humira with me, but that he did not. She said that right now I have too much steroids in me to take any tests or do any xrays. She is sending for my records. I am sure this will be just a copy. I will carefully write the letter to the doctor, and then I will ask for the records. Do I have to pay to get my records? I have gotten copies of computer printouts only when I asked for records before. They charged me $1 per page. I can understand since I wanted copies. But Llke I will be done with this doctor forever and want all my records. I go to the hospital to have tests and xrays on April 14 for the new rheumatologist. Then I have an appointment with her for the 20th of April. She said at that time she will do a TB skin test. I hope enough time has passed that all of that humira is out of my system as I read to not have a TB test after taking Humira. Maybe that meant right after, but that scared me. You both were right, the doc said that no, it has to be a skin test that the TB test cannot be done with regular blood work. So for 100% fact, I had no TB skin test just like I had no discussion about anything. Today the new doctor put me on 7 methotrexate tabs and gave me Loratabs for pain when needed. she said for right now that is all that she can do until she can study my case to see how best to treat me. I was impressed with that. I got the impression that she thought both the emergency doctors had given me too much steroids. I had 3 shots and the pack of 21 tabs. I bet I did. She said absolutely nothing would show up right now. Thanks again for all the help. I just have to get all this done in the right steps. :)
Posted 2/15/2006 3:57 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Lee:

You are most welcome. So sorry I never thought to discuss all of this with you the first time we chatted and HUMIRA was mentioned. It might have saved a lot of grief on your part sad but I guess I figured MOST doctors would follow the same procedures with meds like these.... but then again after dealing with the first two rheumatologists I had (one took over when the first one retired) I shoulda known better too. Both of them had quirks and attitudes I didn't care for and both of them kinda let the nurse there tell them what was right and wrong...oh well......all three are ancient history (thank goodness tongue )

If there is anything else I can help you with Lee (but I am sure this new doctor will keep you informed) please don't hesitate to email me......and I hope to see you in chat again sometime soon.

Take care yeah
Posted 2/24/2006 3:03 AM (GMT 0)
Hello Everyone tongue   Here I am back finally after 4 trips to the emergency room and 4 trips to the doctors office and one to a new rhuematologist and one to an eye, ear, nose and throat specialist and one to the hospital for tests. It seems that my white blood count was very low when I tested at the rheumatologist's clinic on January 17. I see this on my records that I got.  The doc or his nurse ordered the Humira and had it sent to my house on January 25.  I took that first injection on the 26th.  Anyway, I think I have too many high and low things in my CWB to have started the Humira, but I don't know.  Now the white blood count keeps testing high at about 15, and I run a temp all the time.  Sometimes I have a high fever and temp.  At any rate the specialist told me today that my immune system is totally gone and I would have to see an immunologist.  At this time they are keeping me alive with steroids.  I have lots of pain pills and muscle relaxers and antibiotics and I don't know what all.  This has been the most excruciating pain. The diagnosis is that the autoimmune disease has attacked my salvia glands.  Does anyone know anything about any of this?  I didn't understand exactly.  I have to wait to try to talk with my new rheumatologist on Tuesday.  I saw her for the first time two trips to the ER.  My new general doctor got her for me.  I think I can work with her.  I hope she won't be upset that I didn't take my methotrexate this week.  I am just trying to live.  For now a wheelchair is not the worse thing.  Also, I just can't think well.  This could be the Lortab. I am just taking a half of one twice a day.  It seems the half does a good job.  I have had  6 steroid shots and I am on my second pack of the 21 system of steroids with a new precription to follow as soon as I finish this one.  I could write a book.  HellPPpp!!!!  I know you can't play doctor, but if anyone has heard about this immune problem, let me know , please.  I hope that you all are doing well. yeah    I am feeling much better.  I am just scared and confused but praying hard that I can get my immune system back in shape.  LeeLee tongue
Posted 2/24/2006 1:26 PM (GMT 0)
Holy cow LeeLee! I just don't even know what to say.. There are a couple nurses on this forum, Erin being one of them and Flopsie is another... there are more too... hopefully they will be along shortly to lend their advice... hang in there and let us know how you are doing... Duck
Posted 2/24/2006 5:43 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Ducky. I am feeling so much better today but had to have the pain killer. I am trying to take as little as I can. I am trying to eat and drink all of the things that are nutritional and hope to help myself as much as possible. I will just have to wait to see. I do run a temp. all the time. I plan to call my new rheumatologist's office Tuesday and ask if I can email her. I hope that I can. Then she could read it and get back with me. Someone said last night in chat that I can get my immune system back. That it takes a bit of time, but the immunologists can help and I can help with nutrition. This person helped me soo much. It was good to hear that. I forgot her name because my memory just won't work at all for now. Bless her whoever it was. Everyone is so encouraging. I see so many people that are so much worse off than me. I come and just talk about myself and try to get help. I do help make people laugh some though. Ha Anyway, I appreciate you and all the ones that have helped me express myself and find out information. It has been so helpful. My family can't help in that way although they are sooo soo sweet and spoiling me. :)
Posted 2/24/2006 10:41 PM (GMT 0)
did you mean the AI disease process has attacked your "salivary glands"?

write back when you feel OK to do so and maybe i can give some thoughts on this.

i've never heard of "salvia" glands.  but i do know there is a condition where the salivary glands are involved.

 

rest well.  it's good that you are consulting with an immunologist.

write back soon.

erin

Posted 2/24/2006 11:01 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, I meant the salivary glands are involved. I don't understand exactly, but it is from this AI thing. I had a CAT Scan yesterday and going for a barrium swallow on Wednesday. The specialist said that this was to just rule out any other things that should be considered as he feels certain that is the salivary glands. But before that I had a couple of sinus infections I thought... but now I don't know. Today I don't have fever, and I am feeling better. I am just anxious and worried and high on drugs. I have cut back my Lortab to only 1/4 twice a day. I don't know why I am responding so to it. My pharmacist says he thinks it is not right for me, but since it was working to be careful and don't do any driving or anything like that. He is calling me back. The pain was so excruiating that I am not complaining. It just seems that I am over responding to it. the first day I did a whole one and got sick. Then yesterday I did a half two times. Then I was too hyper so my husband cut one in four parts. I am high and free from pain on 1/4. I just said I hope I don't have brain infection instead of this Lortab working so well. So you see I am a bit anxious. I have just gotten too worried. I have to ask if I can take this Meprobamate the specilaist gave me for a muscle relaxer. He said it would help and to leave off the flexril. I am worried that with this Lortab it is going to send me for a loop. I appreciate anything that you may know about this salivary gland being attacked by the AI. I tried to research that and could not find anything much. Thanks :)
Posted 2/25/2006 12:08 AM (GMT 0)
dear LeeLee,

 

first of all, is it plain old "Lortab" ( aka Vicodin)?  there is regular Lortab which is vicodin (hydrocodone) plus tylenol (acetaminophen); and then there is Lortab ASA which is vicodin plus aspirin.  so you want to make sure you're taking something you're not allergic to, which some people are allergic to aspirin.

 

Vicodin is a very powerful pain killer.  the funny this is that although it is a central nervous system depressant (which causes the pain relief); it can make people HYPER too! it's a paradoxyl effect...i get it too sometimes!

if you are really small and thin...the dose might be too high.  what's your dose?  it's OK to break them in half as long as they are scored & they are not extended release tabs & are not coated.

the "high" feeling is the euphoria side effect; you'll adjust to it.  the main thing is to find the lowest dose that gives you the best pain relief.  also, if you take it on an empty stomach, the drowsy/high feeling will be more intense; same goes for if you break, crush or chew them.

 

what is the trade name for "meprobamate"? never heard of it. but if it is a muscle relaxer, it will likely add to the sedetive effect of the Lortab.

now, from what i'm reading of what you explained it seems as if the doc is suspecting that your lacrimal and salivary glands are being damaged or attacked by autoantibodies and T-lymphocytes.  this would be what is called Sjogren's Syndrome.  this is an AI disorder that is quite common in people with RA.

a rundown on Sjogren's:

  • blurred vision with very dry eyes and dry, cracked eye membranes.
  • itching & burning of the eyes.
  • painful joints & synovitis.
  • difficulty swallowing, decreased taste, decreased saliva, oral thrush.
  • enlarged parotid glands (which is why the doc will order a CT to look at the parotids). dry nasal cavity.
  • bronchitis, risk for pneumonitis.
  • your ESR might be elevated.
  • candida and vaginal infections can occur as well.

the good thing is that Sjogren's can be controlled with hygiene and extra lubricants for the eyes, nose and mouth and NSAIDs and meds.  but like with any AI disease we are at risk for complications and lymphomas and all, so you need to be checked. if it is Sjogren's, the doc has to keep a check on your lymph glands which will most likely involve yearly CTs or MRI's and frequent blodwork.

but try to relax!  evreything that needs to be done is done.  you just need to take care of your body and be mindful of what goes on & how you're feeling.

i hope this has helped some and i hope you feel better with some information on what might be going on here.{{{{{{{{{{{{ hugs }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

there are some folks here with Sjogrens.  Curley i believe deals with it as well.

you hang in there girl!

:-)  erin

Posted 2/25/2006 12:41 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks so much Erin!!! That is very helpful. This says "substitute for Lortab 7.5/500mg" and is actually Hydrocodone/APAP 7.5/500mg. The Meprobamate 200 mg is some form of a type of Vallium that the doc said he thought would be the best muscle relaxer for what I have. He had my list in his hands. He said to take this instead of the Flexeril for a muscle relaxer. I think I am over sensitive to the Lortabs. The Lortabs are scored. The first one I took an entire one as the directions said to. I got sick off of that so the doc said to take a half with plenty of food and water. So yesterday I took 2 halves. I was hyper so today I just have had 1/4 so far. I feel the pain coming as it has been about 10 hours ago that I took the 1/4. Iam trying to make it until another hour and a half to take the other 1/4. I was glad to hear that the drug can actually cause the hyper thing. This makes me feel better. I can take aspirin if this has it in it. I hope I don't have the Sjogrens, but it doesn't sound as bad as me dying. I may not have to goto the immunologist. Also, I do have arthritis bad in my TMJ joint. I have been to the dentist like 2 times with this and keep telling my docs that my jaw hinges pop and don't work and hurt. I think one thing is that after the humira I had such a bad flare up but also the infections or whatever. Also I am still on this Levaquin for this infection, but ?? I don't know If I should be or not. I will make an appointment to see my regular doc next week,a dn am going to try to email my new rheumatologist. Thanks for getting me by :)) until I can. also at the same time I was diagnosed with this RA, I was also diagnosed with hypothyroidism. It is funny that this pain medication makes me hyper. I have complained and complained of fatigue. That is one thing I do not have. :) Thanks so much for all of that information.
Posted 2/25/2006 12:55 AM (GMT 0)
Hey LeeLee, what are they going to do for you since they diagnosed you with hypothyroidism? I had Grave's disease (hyperthyroidism) a few years back, that's why I'm curious... hope you are doing well... take care - Duck
Posted 2/25/2006 12:59 AM (GMT 0)
OH yes. I wanted to ask or say that the Meprobamate is scored. Does this mean I may could try one half this first time just to see how it does? I never thought about the scored pills being scored because that meant they could be divided. Tonight will be the first time I have taken the Meprobamate. I am scared to try to do without the Lortab. Then if I don't die or anything, I can do the whole one tomorrow night. I am sure that I will be needing to take an entire pill for it to be effective as the direction says, but for this one time since I am scared.
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