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Posted 5/21/2008 5:19 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Freya, I have to confess that I have that happen to me as well, every single night. But I don't usually have nightmares. Here's the really strange part. I usually dream about things that I wanted to do 5 or 10 years ago, but never got the chance to. In my dreams, I get to do those things. . They are so vivid and so real to me that I have woken up balling because I did not want to leave. ( I guess that means my regret over not doing those things must be pretty strong) Sometimes, I actually look forward to falling asleep because I have no idea what my brain has in store for me that night. Yeah, I know, its weird but what can I do? I really hope that you situation gets better, but I also hope that you have a good dream for once too.
PainKiller
Posted 5/21/2008 8:51 AM (GMT 0)
I love this thread too, its got a mix of everything! Thank Painkiller and Lakeside, Glad you all dream that often too.
My research say we are not the norm when it comes to dreaming so I have to assume we are just a very creative bunch! Guess we have to be!

I'm glad you get to do those things in your dreams painkiller. Your regrets may be strong but I know if there vivid you wake up feeling like you've actually done them and that is something you will never forget. You should write them down. I've found that when I write them down I can see exactly what happened much better than just remembering them.
I hope you had a really great dream tonight.
I had none I remember:( but that includes no nightmare so I cant complain too much.

I think my best dream was one night I saw my Great Uncle and my Great Aunt(who had already passed away years befor) holding hands, waving and smiling at me. I cant even explain the warm feeling that came along with it. When I woke up I got a call saying my Great Uncle had passed that ni9ght. I wasnt sad because I knew he was much happier and that he saw me one last time(he lived 3,000 miles away) We were all suprised he stayed with us so long because he always said he couldnt be here without my Aunt, which we knew was true.
I couldnt believe I had that dream!

Anyhow, I think were all pretty lucky to dream the way we do!

My husband has sleep apnea, he wont go get it check out at the Doc no matter what I say. I know it can be so dangerous, he's such a babay when it comes to going to the doctor.
He is always tired no matter how long he sleeps, never dreams and like your hubby lakeside is always moving around not to mention you would think a plane is taking off he snores so loud. Had I known beofre we got married that I would be sleeping on the couch so often I would have made it a pre-requisit for marriage!
I wish I could say something to make him go. Men and doctors...
sorry for any men reading this thread, but its true!

My oxy made me really sick last night. I felt sick to my stomach and gota headache. It doesnt happen in the morning, maybe when I'm just tired. Nut I have been sleeping, alot. And then last night these awful abdominal pains came on. Lasted for about 30 mins, thought i was going to have another trip to the ER. Awful feeling!

But its much better this morning and hope it stays this way. I'm taking this new online drawing course I found so I would like to at least be able to sit up!

Wish there was a place I could show everyone my progress. Maybe you will all see it when I manage to sell my first piece. Wishful thinking....

Many hugs to all

Freya
Posted 5/21/2008 7:24 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, everyone,
An online drawing course - how neat! And it sounds so healing. Maybe you'll draw images from your dreams.

Over the years I've done a lot of work with my dreams and help others. When I have the energy I'll write some ideas down - there are so many ways to interpret and use dreams. Don't ever let anyone tell you something means one thing and only one thing. You, the dreamer, are the one who decides what's the "right" interpretation. But the dream books and such can sometimes give you ideas.

Lots of people have dreams when loved ones die or shortly after. I remember when my mother died I WANTED her to come to me in a dream to let me know she was ok. I had taken care of her for months, was with her at the moment she died, and was, well, I don't mean this to sound crass - curious about death. I had taught Dying and Death classes years ago and being with my mother was giving me the living experience. Sort of felt like I wanted to know this adversary "death" on a more personal basis before it came knocking at my door. At my mother's wake, an old friend walked in and said she had had a dream the night my mother died and my mother came to her and said she was going home. The friend said my mother was smiling and looked so peaceful, and that friend, who wasn't even a real close friend to my Mom, didn't know at the time my mother had died earlier that day. I was kind of selfishly pissed with my mother for not coming to me, but these things aren't under our control. It was a couple of years until my mother appeared in my dreams, and one dream was such a healing dream I can still remember it vividly. In the dream I was a young girl, at home in my bed, and my mother walked in like she would have looked most mornings, with a big smile on her face. It brought me right back to my childhood, and sometimes when I miss her I think of that image and I can feel her love.

I'd better quit before I get too mushy!

Chilly and cloudy here today, Lakeside. Be sure to let us know about the MRI.

Hugs around,

PaLady

Post Edited (PAlady) : 5/21/2008 1:28:30 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/21/2008 8:46 PM (GMT 0)
PaLady
I wish you would give us a little help in that area when you feel up to it.
You and I have alot in common whe it comes to these things and although I have never done much witting down or research I have always been curious about passing on and the like.
I think sometimes I wish I could share what I've learned, but people may not believe it or call me crazy so I only say what I think may pass as "sane" Thats why I posted that dream to see if it was an oxy thing or a subconcious thing. Anyhow, we have much in common.

I'm glad your mother got a message to you through a friend that quickly. And that you heard from her a while later. No fault in being jelous, I would be too. I truely believe it is possible to be given messages from your loved ones and for them to let you know all is OK. Has happened to too many people to be coincidence!

So I do hope you can give us even more information! I'll look forward to that

Hugs

Freya
Posted 5/22/2008 2:17 AM (GMT 0)
Supposd to finally get some rain this weekend so thanks everybody who is sending it. Yes we are using the ac can't live with out it.

I must be psychic because all my dreams are in color which makes them worse i think. It applifies the intensity. DId a sleep study once all they said was i have sleep apnea which just added to problems with meds i can take because of breathing problems.

I wouldn't know what to do if i didn't tell somebody about my dreams too much to keep inside.

Thank you for the welcome so far i have really enjoyed coming here and venting some of my problems and hunting solutions.

Hope you all have a great day!

Di
Posted 5/22/2008 2:54 AM (GMT 0)
PAlady: Yeah, I know exactly where you are coming from. I was 19 when my 15 year old brother committed suicide. After a long night of talking to the police and paramedics, and going through the emotions of grief, I finally knew that i had to go to sleep because I was just exhausted. I needed a respite from the gravity of it all. Sure enough, the dream that I had that night was of my brother coming to ease my pain. He came to assure me that he was okay, and that he was going to be fine. As a catholic, as I'm sure some of you know, we believe that suicide is the only unforgiveable sin and a ticket straight to hell. I was so afraid for my brother because of this. I don''t know if that is what really happens to suicides, but I felt so much better after talking to my brother in a dream. I am trained in a biological background, but I still realize that medicine, chemistry, and physics can't explain everything.
Posted 5/22/2008 3:53 AM (GMT 0)
This thread is really taking an intriguing turn. It seems ok with you, Freya (it's your thread), so I for one won't stop! I just wish I had some mental energy tongiht but I can write but not think too much. Does that makes sense? LOL

It was my goddaughter's birthday today and she invited me to dinner with her husband and two children. I almost didn't go because of pain issues. And just feeling tired, but I finally just took my meds and went and was uncomfortable (lousy chairs at restaurant) but am glad I went. I have so little stamina, it's sad. A couple of hours of doing anything and my brain and body are fried.

Sorry if this was a bit off topic of this thread. I'll get back to it because I love having found some people to talk about this with. One thing I've never had is soundtracks in my dream - as a music lover I'd love that!

Keep this going, friends!

PaLady
Posted 5/22/2008 9:55 AM (GMT 0)
Hi All

This topic is defenotly okay by me! I too am happy to have found some friends to talk about these things with! Except I'm mentioning a disclaimer incase anyone thinks I'm a looney toon! I'm really not!

I'm glad you went to the dinner paty for your goddaughter's Birthday. I'm sure she was thrilled you were there. Chairs for me are always so uncomfortable, especially at the Dr's office. I for one think the chairs in a pain managememt office should be the most comfortable of all. I always end up sitting on the floor if I have to wait too long! I really think everyone who fights the pain and goes out inspite of it is an inspiartion. I havent quite gotten that far yet. I'm sure I will.



Painkiller, I'm with you on the biology part of things. Alot of my family is in the medical field(except for me) I was raised as a Chrisitian(which I still am) and was taught that suicide and psychic dreams were not okay.
I'm very sorry for the loss of your brother. I know how it feels. While it was my Best Friend who killed herself and not a familt member, it hurts very much. My best friend was very ill, she would always talk about ending the pain and for years I tried everything to talk her out of it. But never could, she was suffering very badly. When it happened, i was so distraught. A few days after, I had a dream of her coming to tell me she loved me and everything was okay. She always talked about what crossing over would be like, and at the end she told me she would come back to let me know. I still remember those dreams like it was yesterday. There were nights I felt so alone, but on some of those nights I felt that someone was with me.
I'm so glad painkiller that you were able to see your brother again and he was able to ease your pain. It's the kind of pain only he could have eased.

My family always tells me how much I used to freak them out with the things I would say about my dreams, Things they swear I couldnt have known. I dont remember any of those back then.
I wont say anything else yet as I've said enough to be carted to the funny farm, althoug this is apparently more common than we all think. Look how many of us have had a loved one come back to tell us everything is okay.

It;s actually really comforting to hear. Especially for people like me who has always been a bit intregued by the whole crossing over thing.

Just wanted to also tell Katt that I'm glad your here too. I hope you find all the answeres your looking for.

Many Hugs to all,
Hope you've had a pleasent nights dream and low pain!

Freya
Posted 5/23/2008 3:30 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Freya, thank you for the nice words. You know, for so long, I have heard psychiatrists and medical doctors explain that "light" that a person sees as he or she dies as the brain and body dying. I don't know why its so hard for some people to believe that there is more to death than the end of the physical body. Personally, If I knew right now without a shadow of a doubt that there was no form of existence after physical death, I would not want to live because that would mean that I would never ever see my deceased loved ones again. The thought that I may never see my brother again would just be too much to take. For that matter, if I knew that I would never see my pupper Cooper after he died, I would be just as distraught. If there was no existence after we die, then what is the purpose of emotion? I am pretty sure that true love never dies; really, if you think about it, its timeless. Love is like the wind; it can't be captured or counted or held in a jar; it just floats along. If love lasts forever, than how can we as consciousness' not also exist forever? I know it sounds silly, but when I look at my puppy I feel love for him. I know that it is unconditional; so do you think that my love for my dog just dies because my physical body dies? No it doesn't, it just goes on. So, I choose to believe that death is merely a change from one existence to another. Even with all of this staring people in the face, some people just cannot imagine that they are more than the sum of the chemical compounds that compose their body. What is truly neat about all of us is that our bodies are the remnants of exploding stars! Every ion of every element once belonged to a star that died long ago. The water that comprises the majority of our body came from a comet that streaked across our atmosphere long ago. If you think about it, this means that technically we have all been around since our Universe came into existence, since the big bang. How can people not believe that they are more than just skin and bones?
That said, I respect everyone's right to believe what they believe.

Post Edited (painKILLER) : 5/22/2008 9:33:11 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/23/2008 4:04 AM (GMT 0)
This thread...wow. Getting nice and deep and it's great. Painkiller - isn't it nice just to think of everything as just various forms of love manifested? How simple it would be if we wouldn't have to argue and get into wars over religion, but I don't want to go "there" and certainly don't mean to insult anyone.

Freya- thank you for the kind words. And you're definitely not a looney tune! The neat thing about so much of the subjective part of life is that to me, there's no one "right" way to interpret existence. No more so than there is one right way to interpret dreams. I'm fascinated by those layers of life and maybe those are things that keep us going, where we can find some inspiration to help us through our dark periods. And for us there are many dark periods.

Why am I so tired I can't figure out where to start to talk about dreams and life and all those good things. Maybe because my day to day reality right now is weighing me down, as is the pain at the moment. I worked a couple of hours today - all the work I have for the entire week. And am trying to get in touch with an attorney to help with my financial issues. Sometimes it's hard to find any reason to get out of bed. Nothing to look forward to but medical issues and money issues and oh, I'd better stop now. Rambling and moving into pity party mode!

Lakeside - did you hear about your MRI?

Hugs around - and sweet dreams!

PaLady
Posted 5/23/2008 8:04 AM (GMT 0)
Pa Lady I know the felling at least you made it out of bed i think my life exsist because i am in bed. Some time i just wonder why i keep going. there isn't much reason to it. Pain and depression don't work well together they seem to feed of each other and a cycle i never can get out of.

I am having a really bad day with emotions and thoughts so please all forgive i won't get into money matters as i am on disability at 725 a month to take care of 3 people just doesn't work. My husband can't find work and my daughter is still in school. so it sort of leaves my check to get by on. Probably helping with the depression some.

Di
Posted 5/23/2008 8:43 AM (GMT 0)
I agree PaLady, with everything you have just said. I am fasinated with dreams, life, souls...mainly all we cannot see. The physical is so easy. Not in the way of our pain. But it is tangable visible to us. Those things we cant see have to be looked for in another way. By digging deep inside. If I believed death is the end of us all I would like you have no more reason to be here. It would not mean anything. Apart from seeing my loved ones, everything would then be random and chaotic. I can understand your love for your Dog. I feel the same way about my cat. I love my cat more than I love some people. She never abandons me and infact lays with me when I dont feel well. When my pain is bad she lays on my abdomen trying to help take it away.
I have watched all the programs of different views. The view that yes that white light is only a manifestation of the brain dying. I dont believe it. But I understand that other people may feel differently. And I'm glad that we are not all programmed to believe the same things. I would never tell anyone they were wrong. After all, what do I know. No one has whispered in my ear telling me what really is.
I think our dreams tell us secrets of the things we cant touch or see. They can tell us our own secrets that we dont want to see or just cant see and they tell us secrets of what may be beyond our comprehention when were concious.
When we have seen a loved one in our dream,we never think...this is not possible, this cant be real. We dont question it, it feels normal and natural to see that person standing before us. When our concious thoughts dont get in the way and say..this is not possible so it's not true. Just my imagination.

I think maybe this is why I studied psychology and went into mental health. Because the answeres are not always cut and dry and visable. The mind is fasinating.

Wow, I guess we are getting deep. But then there it is, that reason for everything. Poping back up!!

Many hugs to all,

Freya
Posted 5/23/2008 2:35 PM (GMT 0)
I had a cat like that i had to put him asleep 3 yrs ago on july 14 i still cry everytime i think about that cat or see a picture of him. He was 14 yrs old It feel like part of my sole is missing with out him and i don't now how to get over him and don't know if i ever can.

Di
Posted 5/23/2008 7:59 PM (GMT 0)
Oh Painkiller sorry I misread the posts and for some reason saw PaLadys name on yours...trick of the eyes early morning!!

I will look forward to your view PaLady when you are feeling up to it. its a huge unending subject. I have read many interpretations of dreams and they all seem to be different. I have learned that by writting them down I get a better understanding but still some things just seem to be symbolism.
like today in my dream(and in so many I've had) I end up really high above the trees then realize the way down is far and falling will hurt so I get frightened and start falling. There is no reason for the jump. It just seems like anytime I take a step in a dream I end up catapolted up to the sky. Very strange, I never know I'm dreaming because they seem so real. But I wonder what would happen if I could train myself to stay up in the air and see what happens. Is that possible?

Di-I have the same thing with a cat I had when I was growing up, truely my best friend. I miss him so much I feel a piece missing sometimes. He had an awful death and I cant help thinking of it sometimes and how I wish I could have been there for him through it until he was put to sleep but my parents didnt want me to know until after he was gone. I used to miss him so much, in the middle of the night i used to wake up to feeling like he was walking next to me to come lay down like he used to do. I guess I was really grief stricken.

Pets are more like family alot of the time.

Hugs Freya
Posted 5/23/2008 10:52 PM (GMT 0)
Freya -
Just a brief entry. I'm having some bad pain days. Just took a shower and some percocet, and hoping to get a little relief. But there is a technique called Directed Dreaming you may want to research. It does exactly what you're suggesting - a way of directing our dreams by focusing our minds before sleep. It can work in negative ways, too, and that's probably applicable re: anxiety, nightmares, etc., although there can be many causes. But if we start fearing we're going to have a nightmare then we're going to bed with heightened anxiety already and thus increase the chances.

Remind me later to talk about how to interact with your dreams. It comes from Gestault psychology. It's what i find the most useful.

It also helps when you write your dreams in a journal to do it in first person, present tense (I am up in the air, versus I was up in the air). And another really illuminating thing is to keep a microcassette recorder by your bed and talk your dream into it as quickly after you wake up as possible. When you play it back you also hear the emotion attached to the dream much more dramatically than just writing it down.

Ok. That's about all the thinking I can do for now!

PaLady

Oh - I do have to add about my cat, Moocher, who I had to put down 3 years ago He was 20, and when I think about it the longest relationship I've ever had with a man! LOL I really miss him, but my goddaughter just got an orange cat who looks alot like Mooch, so I'm cuddle him a lot when I'm able to visit her.
Posted 5/24/2008 9:56 AM (GMT 0)
ohh how sweet! Glad you have a kitty to cuddle when you see her. Can make all the difference soem days. Its hard to cuddle my husband when I'm in pain but cats are small and fuzy, pillows wich love you back!

I'm so sorry to hear your having such a crummy time PaLady. I hope that percocet helped you and took alot(if not all..I know wishful thinking) the pain away. Hoping you'll wake up this morning feeling better.
I'll be thinking of you.

Thank you for the suggestion, I will look it up and check it out. Defenitly need try and learn to direct some of my dreams no matter the risk of a nighmare. Just cant believe I never realize they are dreams. Like jumping into the sky is so normal and an everyday occurance. I wish.

Hope everyone is well and has had a restful and low pain night:)

Hugs

Freya
Posted 5/26/2008 3:53 AM (GMT 0)
I just asked my cousin (the pharmacist) about oxycontin and nightmares and she said it's a side effect that can occur with any of short or long acting narcotics. Not everyone gets it, but if your dreams change substantially after taking a particular med, it could be related.

Sweet dreams!

PaLady
Posted 5/26/2008 9:26 AM (GMT 0)
hi Freya I was just visiting near NY last week from 16 th- 23 rd.. yes... rained & rained & every day was cool & damp// Uggggg

Nightmares? me 2
lots ever since i have been dealing with CP
but I think it is the medications.. and also perhaps times when I know I must be dehydrated...

I cant take certain pain/ back pain meds because I get horrific nightmares.. and they are debilitating cant handle them... at all

all I know is drinking lots lots of water a day helps me maintain a good... balance of hydration.. which helps my chemicals water etc.. to be brain balanced..
also doyou journal the dreams?

ttyl

have a good day
Posted 5/26/2008 8:18 PM (GMT 0)
Thank PaLady for the oxycontin info.
Have not had one since switching to the brand name. The brand name seems better all around!

Shelter, thank you for sharing that with me. Perhaps I do need to drink more water. I try to stay hydrated but have a bladder condition which makes it that much harder. I'll drink an extra glass tonight and see if it helps me sleep more peacefully.
I have started to write my dreams down. Hopefully those disturbing type nightmares will be a think of the past.
Thank a bunch!!

Hugs

Freya
Posted 5/27/2008 9:53 PM (GMT 0)
I never took that drug, but I've been on oxycodone/loratab and have dealt with nightmares. I quit taking it even though I was in pain. I couldn't sleep at night and dreaded going to bed. So now I just take a sleeping pill. I just had a discectomy/back surgery so doctor gave me some pain med, I don't like it so I'm taking Rx motrin.

Wishing you a good nights sleep,

Mercyme
Posted 5/28/2008 12:58 AM (GMT 0)
Shelter I read your post about back pain. I too have dealt with sciatica pain down my left leg. I have a protruding disc at L4/L5. I had a discectomy May 5th and have been on pain meds as needed and they too cause nightmares for me and I end up having to get up and turn the t.v. on. also have to have a night light. call me a scaried cat, LOL

Shelter, I'm still having some sciatica but nothing like before the surgery, hoping it will settled down soon. doctor says it could be just the nerves healing and to give it some time, it's only been three weeks, so I'll have to hang in there.

If pain doesn't ease off I will have another MRI to make sure I haven't reherniated the disc.

tonight I have a terrible migraine, but I'm going to play it safe and take a sleeping pill, or just midrin that I usually take for migraines, doesn't really work but worth a try.


God Bless,

Mercyme
Posted 5/29/2008 3:00 AM (GMT 0)
Mercyme

 

I'm sorry about adding something different but wanted to let you know about ZOMIG works great for migraines. Talk to your doctor as you have to have a script to get it.

 

Di

Posted 5/30/2008 5:36 PM (GMT 0)
Freya & everyone,
Thought I'd let you know last night Nightline (abc) did a segment on a form of directed dreaming to help control nightmares. You may be able to access it by going to the abc tv website. I'm on an old dial up connection, so can't get streaming video, but some of you may be able to. There may also be a text form of the report there.

PaLady
Posted 6/1/2008 6:22 AM (GMT 0)
HI wanted you all to know i might be going back in the hospital for a few weeks to get meds adjusted. I think they change with the season personally. The nightmares have turned into thoughts and plans, that has but my emotions on a very high state. I won't know until tuesday for sure. But wanted you all to know that i am fine just gone for a little. Hope i don't miss to much.

Love DI
Posted 6/1/2008 9:31 AM (GMT 0)
Methadone for severe pain gives me nightmares. The last one: I was in this Rapunzel like tower. There were no stairs. One just got there by miraculous ways. I was on the top floor, standing on a tall ladder and looking out a huge window. On the ground i saw a lizzard - a lizzard as big as two elephants. I tried to scare it away and called ...
WOOOOO WOOOOOOO WOOOOOO. My husband woke me up and asked what the Woooo Wooo was all about. I laughed. Maybe I'm learning to handle my nighmares? Oh, this is only my second post - never thought I'd say that to anyone!
Pamela Neckpain
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