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Posted 9/11/2011 7:23 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Everyone nice to meet you all,
 
Back pain is not fun and I've been dealing with it for 3 years and has really affected my life but I'm determined to beat it. I believe my problem lies in the sacroiliac joint, located in the pelvis, between the illium and sacrum. This discorder is also known as Sacroiliac joint dysfunction and causes more then 90% of lower back pain.

 Essentially, the pelvis is the foundation of your body and once it becomes compromised, it will rotate forward on the sacrum. This loss of function disrupts the system and biomechanics of the loading forces within the pelvis. All the forces of the body are grounded through the pelvis, it's where the forces of the body, from the feet meet the forces of the head.
 
Everything pushes towards the key stone (sacrum) located right in the middle of our pelvis. The SI joints (sacrolialiac joints) are ligaments that hold the sacrum to the pelvis. These massive ligs are huge but they can be injuried and be stretched and once stretched, the SI joints are disabled and unable to do their job properly.

Once the SI joints have lost their loading capabilities, forces with be placed on other parts of the body (lumbar, cervical, thoracic, elbows, knees, everywhere).
 
I believe treating the SI joints could give me a very good chance at hitting the problem at the root and stopping the accelerated detioration on your bodyies joints. There are several ways I can combat this problem.

By XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXadjusting the SI joints in the proper position and hope they hold themselves and if they don''t hold themselves then I could try prolotherapy to aid the ligs to tighten.
 
Who needs to spend money on useless physiotherapists who treat the symptoms and couldn't care the slighted whether you heal or not and get pay at the end of each treatment, no matter what happens. I don't mean to sound negative but it's true. I have met some good therapists though and truly are good at what they do but they are about only 1 out of a 100. 
 
Sorry for the ramble of info but I thought I'd give my understanding of what I think is my problem. Has anyone tried prolotherapy for the SI joints? If so, please can you give me your story about the exeperience (how many shots? ultrasound guided? only certain ligs? ect). Any advice or experiences with prolotherapy and Sacroiliac joint dysfunction would greatly be appreciated :)

 
Brandon

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Post Edited (crashbandit) : 9/11/2011 2:03:06 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/12/2011 3:41 AM (GMT 0)
It's being done for me on 22 September, my doctor said a total of thirty (30) injection for each joint treated
and insurance does not cover the costs for these, so mine are going to cost $400.00, but we have a medical
insurance back up plan...I'm getting two joints done my lower back and my right knee and it's usually done
as an in office procedure, but for me he's going to use some Valium or he won't be able to get anywhere
near me, even with it being very small needles...it's hoped that by inducing the imflammatory response to help heal
these joints and it has been done in the past with success for people, it is an older procedure...However, some doctors also use
your bone marrow , they take your blood and put it back in the infected area's sometimes this is also done
I don't think I'm getting that part done to me...Hey if it can help...down side is you need three treatments every
4-6 weeks apart...I have ice packs handy and they also say to rest for the first 7 days...with 4 cats that'll be hard...
Hope this info helps you. well wishes and keep us posted on how your doing...
Posted 9/15/2011 1:09 PM (GMT 0)
Good morning Crash!

Welcome to our CP forum!

Here is a link that may help you with information on the Prolotherapy! Feel free to take a peek at it. Let us know how the treatment goes, and if it helps.

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=16&m=2203193


Take care,

SE
Posted 9/15/2011 6:14 PM (GMT 0)
Crash these treatments are very expensive and be sure to check with your insurance company before having anything done. As in most things we try to get relief it can be a real hit o miss as to how effective the treatment can be for a person. I have read that sedation is a must as the treatments can be very painful. There is a lot of controversay about prolotherapy and its effectiveness.

Some folks are able to get help by finding a physical therapist that is trained in this area. Good luck.
Posted 9/16/2011 2:53 AM (GMT 0)
Yes, look and see if your insurance will cover it, mine won't and it's pricing point
is depended on how many joints are getting done, I'm getting two sites (joints) done
which is going to costs me $400.00.
My Chronic Pain doctor is doing mine on the 22 September...and it's an in office
procedure. It supposed to be like 30 ant bites (from what my doctor told me)
I'm expecting to be very sore for a few days as it says to rest for a week.

I think I covered it good, are you going to get it done?
many well wishes to you.
Posted 10/13/2011 2:27 AM (GMT 0)
I am in the process of receiving prolotherapy for injury with torn ligaments in the sacral region. I have significan pain associated with my injury. I have had several injections, but have not begun to notice any benefits yet. Unfortunately, I am a frequent traveller for my job, so I just recently was put on a travel restriction in order to allow me to effectively heal and really see if these injections are going to help me.

Overall, I have done so much research on Prolotherapy. The logic makes sense. Let your body do the healing, and just promote the healing by instigating the inflamation process. It makes sense. The injections do their job at causing inflamation. You have to stay away from any anti inflamatories. That is very important. I am looking for similar success stories. Anyone that has gone through the injections with successful results for the sacral joint/tendon injuries, I would love to hear from you.

Luckily, my insurance covers the procedures very good. They would be too expensive for me if not. The procedures really suck. I think the anxiety may be worse than the actual pain, but overall, the whole experience is just not comfortable. My last procedure, they numbed me so good, I couldn't walk for almost 45 minutes. Had to wait until it wore off. But man does that feel good. The only time I actually have pain free. Chronic pain is debilitating. I am too young to have this. It has reduced the quality of my life. I take narcotics regularly, but would like to be pain free, narcotic free, and live an active life again.

Please share your stories. Success is what I want to see. I know there are many failure stories, but I am going to remain optimistic that this may somehow free me from this horrible chronic pain.
Posted 10/13/2011 3:14 AM (GMT 0)
Nope won't do those ever again, very very bad experience and they would not
even try to see if insurance would cover it, so had to pay out of pocket for extra pain...
and wasn't even given supplemental medication to help with the pain, this
procedure causes, and had a reaction to the lidocaine they used to numb my lower back...
wasn't worth it for me..sorry...had to give my opinion as it's very real experience...
Posted 11/26/2012 4:12 PM (GMT 0)
I am having prolotherapy injections for sacral joints, my sacrum, hip pelvic bone region and a couple of other places. All this pain causes pain in my tailbone and I can't sit for very long without pain. But the doc did a rectal and said nothing was wrong with my tailbone, it's pain coming from all my other problems. So far I have had two sessions and ithas helped some. But ithas helped better than any steroid injections I have had. My life had been hell for almost a year. I just pray that prolotherapy works for me. But my sessions cost 350.00 a session no matter how many times he has to inject.
Posted 11/26/2012 4:18 PM (GMT 0)
Muralgirl....

Welcome to HW. This thread is from over a year ago. Please consider starting a new thread and introducing yourself, so that others can have a chance to welcome you, etc. Thanks.

--Tina
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