I just read this on the Pain Management Student Doctor Site.

I was reading about Obama care and what will happen with Pain Management and came across this remark from an attending Pain Doctor in Arizona. There are no names on this site they use numbers and I can see why after reading this.

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I will knock myself out and do almost anything for a suffering patient in true need. Seeing the 23 y/o "disabled" patient with fibro is a waste of taxpayer money and my time and goes against my conscience. The money is better spent on psychiatry for these patients. I don't see them and if it is made mandatory I will put them out 6 months, reschedule, leave them waiting 3 hours and spend 2 minutes with them. You can't keep reinforcing bad behavior, people who won't work, (not people who can't work) will receive exactly the same effort they exerted, none.

This is a forum like our's but for Attending and Student doctors from around the country. Almost all of the quotes were about the 30 to 55 year old disabled pain patient on Medicaid. All of the quotes from the attending physicians were that if it was possible they would not see these pt's and would rather have the 65y/o pt and prescribe Tylenol. The younger pain pt's are just to difficult to deal with and if it's nonmalignant pain they should not receive narcotics.  It's really sad....

That is so sad and it just makes me so mad they would be so mean and anyone posting there with those comments should not be allowed to practice any type of medicine and should be banned by the medical boards, peroid. No one needs doctor/physicians like this, and if the tables were turned and they became that 20's patient, makes you wonder...
It wouldn't be hard for medical schools to trace these comments and discipline these people, we don't want or need doctors like these. Medical boards should revoke these degree's for those comments....
We demand better doctors....

Plus, you have to remember that fibromyalgia is a kind of "we're not sure exactly what it is either" diagnosis. Doctors like to have a lab test or an x-ray they can point to and go "A-HA!"

Rob them of that moment and they get all sulky. They're humans too. Despite the rampant god complexes some/many/most have.

Alsoinpain- just google student doctor network forum. It will come right up.

One of the older doctors on there who uses his real name, said its not his problem you think you have fibro because your depressed that your dads uncle abused you as a kid. That's when i joined that board and fired back at that comment. They all took his side and called me a troll, haha.

They all have really big egos and that's part of the problem here. They were saying a while back that patients who address them by their first name instead of calling them "doctor" do so because they are trying to be buddy buddy and get strong pain killers. Did it ever occur to them that maybe those people just don't have very good manners or maybe just not thinking it's more proper to address them as "doctor"? It's not always all about drugs.

How much you wanna bet half of them are closet junkies?

Clearly some of these people do not deserve to be Doctors and the medical boards should consider this before handing out licenses at graduation. We the people deserve better out of doctors especially pain management doctors and pain management should require 4 years of study. Make it harder to get a good qualified doctor. Any 2 year old has better compassion than some doctors...

I know this is an old thread, but I just wanted to mention that that particular forum, just posted something about our forum here.

Sorry I can't find it without a link or Better directions. Maybe email them?

This is an older thread -- but AlsoinPain was just updating something on it....

I don't want to post a link (just because it's another forum).... e-mail if you would like it but it was mentioned what to google to find it....

:) --Tina

Makes me wonder if these student doctors ever get hurt in a mva and get a fibro dx how they will be treated, how would they like this kind of treatment if roles were reversed! They all should be made to retake the compassion courses, every single one of them and the AMA should refuse to license these individuals because of their disregard for human beings. anyone making these comments on that website should be watched by the AMA and be expelled from medical school, as really who would want them as a doctor, compassion needs to come first.

I agree. They should be kicked out, and not be allowed to finish school. Then they couldn't get a lisence to practice medicine.

HIGH FIVE to whoever it was that signed up, and posted to them.

love and hugs
Loretta

Oh my, y'all think this is bad, no where near what I could pull up on the student doctor forums, they have pictures of botched injections and nerve blocks and other stuff, how can they be aloud to have these pictures on the internet we don't give them those consents...shocking what is out there, medical students have such disregard for us....then don't become a doctor...

Oh gosh Vickie, I hope so too.

I've left them to play their pathetic little games - the decent docs don't really our opinions to be compassionate and do the right thing by their patients ... and the ones who want to write all pain patients off before they've started aren't worth the effort.

Interestingly, did anyone else notice that some of them seem to equate "compassion" with dishing out pain pills...I'm glad I've got my PM doc is all I can say on that one!

I'm not going to justify the latest nuffnuff's reply with my own - apparently I chose to have my pain and havent admitted it to myself (that would include, apparently, the 3-4 vertebral fx that haven't healed correctly - and can't be surgically corrected, it would also include the dystonia and repeated joint subluxaxations...) I must also be pretty darn clever to make my limbs swell up to the point of skin breakdown, cellulitis. Wowee!

I also love the assumption that I see neither psych, PT nor OT. No psych, largely because I'm yet to meet a pain psych who isn't a fruitcake, but my GP has interests/training on that front. My PM's wife is a counsellor too, so he has his own experience there. Been doing PT solidly for 14 years and I've got a regular OT. I wonder what they'd make of that? Maybe I should go back - and ask the poster how I'm supposed to fill a baclofen pump or manage a spinal cord stim without a pain doc? *rolls eyes*

Very interesting too to see some of the rather average ratings for the doc there who uses his real name.

By the way - if anyone feels I was out of line in writing to them, I apologise. I wrote the truth to them - I DID sign up ages ago meaning to check out the veterinary section, not to have a go at them.

I really enjoyed reading what Laura wrote too. But, let me say this gang, do not read this stuff if it is going to get you all riled & upset. A forum like that is not worth your energy. It zaps alot of energy that we need when we get mad & upset.Try to laugh it off because its like I think Vickie said, they may not be real drs.

Susie