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NiceCupOfTea
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Posted 11/6/2011 5:16 PM (GMT 0)
Partly because it seemed like this time it was really going to happen. I had weeks beforehand to psych myself up for it: I was nervous, but prepared. Almost everybody who gets surgery seems to have a good outcome, and I was strongly hoping for the same.
Instead I was just told the stricture had gone, and that was it - not even the usual follow-up appointment I get shortly after a colonosopy. No advice, other than not to eat nuts and raisins, and that was it. There's so little interest. My GP can't do b*gger all really, but as a person, he's lovely: really kind and obviously genuinely wants you to feel better. That alone does make a difference when nothing else can be done. I'm not expecting miracle cures but it would be nice to have the (metaphorical, not literal) human touch. Instead, I could almost swear my consultant has actually tried to avoid seeing me in the past few weeks.
Anyway, I suppose I was dumb to invest my hopes in surgery. But at the moment I don't feel like I'm in remission - better than I was, but still too frightened to eat. I've got about
2 weeks' supply of Fortisip left and don't know what I'll do when those run out, as I'm still living on mostly those - getting about
500 calories a day from solid food atm.
Meh. For better or worse, one chapter of my life has closed and another one has begun. *lugubrious* It's bound to be bad. It always is. Anyway, time stops for no man. And nor do cups of tea: there is a cup of tea downstairs with my name on it.
/BlogWell
dunny2
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Posted 11/6/2011 6:06 PM (GMT 0)
Ncot, I've had three surgeries, the last one done about
three and half months ago. I also put a lot of faith
in having these operations, but alas, it hasn't worked. I'm actually back to square one again, looking at
TPN therapy square in the eye! So for some, surgery is not the answer...
I'm sorry you seem to have been dropped like a hot potato, that really shouldn't happen. Did he say why
he didn't need to see you. Surely they do need to take care of the inflammation they found.
Meanwhile try and keep your chin up and never give up hope!!
stripey
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Posted 11/6/2011 6:13 PM (GMT 0)
NCOT, will your gp not allow you to do a repeat prescript
ion for the fortisip until you get your normal calorie intake up, I'm sure if you explained what has happened he would issue a new one for you. Also if I need to see my GI before I am normally due to I phone his secretary and she makes an appointment. Your GP should be able to contact your GI directly and ask what the hell is going on and why you are not being seen to review what needs to be done in the future.
Zanne
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Posted 11/6/2011 7:07 PM (GMT 0)
NCOT, I have had 4 resections. 1 of them I got remission from. 2 I got a few months, and my most recent one, I am no better. So surgery is not always the answer. I wish I had gotten rid of my strictures with ANY type of medication and been able to avoid surgery. The longer you can put it off the better. While it is true that most CD patients will need surgery at some point, once bowel is removed, it can never be put back in, and there are permanent consequences to it. Like constant D, possible short bowel syndrome, malabsorption, vitamin deficiencies.......
You should be able to get another script
for the fortisips and gradually add food back in. You need to try food and not be afraid of it. Have you had trouble since your stricture has healed or are you just afraid because of the past? Start with soft food and see how it goes. Follow Stripey's advice and have your GP contact your GI about
a follow up. All very sensible plans instead of doom and gloom.
Roni
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Posted 11/6/2011 7:31 PM (GMT 0)
I've had two resections, and unfortunately, I'm still having issues. But at least they fixed my stricture, so I can eat without getting obstructed. That was particularly awful for so long.
Surgery is usually only used for scar-tissue strictures or unresponsive disease, and since your illness is responding to the remicade, hopefully you will get better and better all the time. It will probably be a slow process. If you don't have a stricture anymore, then try to eat more. Go slow, but definitely try to eat some of the more common "safer" proteins and carbs, veggies and fruits. Maybe go extra slow with (or avoid) wheat and dairy and gassy or high fibre veggies for a while.
NiceCupOfTea
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Posted 11/6/2011 9:10 PM (GMT 0)
Phew. It told me I didn't have permission to post, so I thought I might have been banned! :-/ Seems like I had been logged out without realising it, that was all. Anyway, here is my post, which I was fortunately able to salvage.
Thanks, folks. I have to say, it must be miserable to go through surgery and not feel any better afterwards - I feel for the ones who have been through that.
@Zanne - I do have a bit of pain still. Nothing intolerable, but it doesn't exactly encourage me to tuck in. Up until not
that
long ago, I would defiantly eat whatever, but the experience of the last few months has just made me - at long last - go in the diametric opposite direction.
@stripey - Your post has persuaded me to make an appointment to see my GP; I was thinking about
it anyway. Quite often he seems to get info which doesn't filter through to me, so he might have heard something I haven't. I'll mention the Fortisip to him and see what he says. I dunno if this sounds stupid, but I feel a bit guilty about
asking for a repeat prescript
ion when I know how hideously expensive it is. I suppose I wouldn't need as many as 8 a day anymore; 4 should do it, just about
...
At any rate, there are signs that my depression is lifting. There is something peculiarly horrible to depression; I can be in all kinds of bad mood w/o being depressed and they are all tolerable. But depression just makes literally everything seem uniquely bleak: it doesn't let in a chink of light or hope anywhere. Apologies if I sound seriously negative during those times - it
does
seem to help if I express it somehow, so thanks for letting me do so, even if it can't be much fun to read.
YP9
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Posted 11/6/2011 9:29 PM (GMT 0)
Hello, NCOT!
Just wanted to wish you better days and times, even hours.
Do not know you, but I grab a fist for you, keep my fingers crossed, as we said to a friend when we wish him very best!
Wish you very best in your bad situation, NCOT! Even a small light in all of that dark around you.
Hope things will get better for you. Hang in there! You are not alone.
Best!
YP9
NiceCupOfTea
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Posted 11/6/2011 9:36 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks muchly, YP9 :p
YP9
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Posted 11/6/2011 9:38 PM (GMT 0)
NiceCupOfTea said...
Thanks muchly, YP9 :p
You are welcome!
Hang in there, my friend!!!
Best!
YP9
Post Edited (YP9) : 11/6/2011 2:42:57 PM (GMT-7)
ivy6
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Posted 11/6/2011 9:46 PM (GMT 0)
NCOT, I wonder if you've been able to do much reading about
illness? I don't mean on the internet; I mean real books. I spent some time reading around this topic a few years ago, trying to sort out my own feelings, and apparently what you are experiencing is extremely common.
Too tired to write more about
it now, but rest assured that you're not alone, and also rest assured that you could really benefit from talking about
this with your counsellor, as it's not an uncommon problem at all.
As for healing, please do be patient. It takes a long, long, time to rebuild your body and strength.
Ivy
NiceCupOfTea
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Posted 11/6/2011 10:10 PM (GMT 0)
Haven't read anything about
illness outside of the internet at all, ivy. If you can recommend any good titles, I'll be sure to look them up on amazon though.
Speaking of my counsellor, I've gotta phone her on Monday... :-/ I haven't seen her in absolutely yonks. (Strictly speaking, she's my occupational therapist, not a counsellor.) Also, I've got to phone up another place to arrange an appointment with a psychiatrist, psychologist, whomever - somebody who I missed an appointment with while I was in hospital at any rate. They'll decide - I hope - what therapy to recommend for me, since the last woman psychologist I saw couldn't decide :/
Patience isn't one of my known traits, but you're right... :-/ I was taken aback by how weak I was coming out of hospital: it was an effort just to
walk
up the stairs, let alone run up them. Never had that before, unless I've been ill with flu or fever.
ivy6
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Posted 11/6/2011 10:22 PM (GMT 0)
I remember what an achievement it was to be able to walk up a few stairs, years ago, after I first started Infliximab. You'll get there.
Re books, I think your best bet would be to go to the library in your nearest town (not your village, I think). Don't be afraid to read the cancer literature, either, as there is often some great stuff about
healing and recovery in those books, too.
Most of my books, I picked up at op shops and garage sales and library discard piles, but you can see them on my LibraryThing account, if you're interested: listed under illness / disability.
Tired, tired, tired. I want a holiday from my life (I expect you do, too).
Ivy.
NiceCupOfTea
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Posted 11/6/2011 10:56 PM (GMT 0)
Hmm. Libraries here are not what they used to be: unfortunately at some point there was a nationwide-wide drive to modernise them and make them 'relevant' to the kiddies by putting in computers and other things which have nothing to do with reading. I used to visit my local library all the time as a child; it was situated in a nice building, had a decent range of books, was quiet like a library should be. Then about
10 years ago they closed it down and
opened up a new library in a new building: it was absolute rubbish. Busy, noisy, far fewer books, much uglier building. I went there once and never went there again.
Sorry for the impromptu library rant... :-/
Anyways, it's not a big drawback. Amazon is like the biggest bookshop in the world. There's also charity bookshops; I'd be lucky if I found anything suitable tbh, but I enjoy browsing inside them at least.
I wouldn't say no to a holiday of any kind: whether it be one from my life or in another part of the UK and/or abroad. PS: And yes, I do feel very tired right about
now.
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