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Posted 11/12/2012 2:10 AM (GMT 0)
@ Gutsii

I agree with the alkaline Vs acidic statement. I remember using Oregano oil directly on the hairy tongue and it would go away temporarily but then grow back fully in a day or so.

However, after I recently began supplementing with InLiven Probiotic Superfood, eating more greens and taking Dr Ohira Probiotics, I notice the layer is a lot thinner (over 50%) and no longer growing back as much after the Origano Oil.

One thing to bare in mind, if you have a fungal overgrowth in your intestines, merely taking Probiotics alone is unlikely to help as much. You need to bring the fungus back to its more harmless state before you will be able to receive the full benefits of Probiotics (in my opinion). In those cases you will need to either take a good antifungal supplement and / or increase the types of foods in your diet that are antifungal. I believe that if you don't do this then the Fungus will merely over power any good bacteria you introduce through your improved diet. However, once the fungus is under control then I believe your body can take full advantage of the beneficial bacteria being introduced into your diet.

If you are lazy like me, you can purchase an alkaline supplement such as 'Miessence's DeepGreen, alkalising superfood formulation.'

I am not sure about the organic nettle in it yet though. I also drink 'Garden Of Life Raw Green Super Food'.

Of course, nothing is better than fresh organic leafy greens but I have found that supplements can aid in addition to an improved diet when you are very out of balance. You can also purchase PH test strips to get a rough idea of your alkalinity.

Concerning hairy tongues relationship with an imbalance of gut flora, I believe that to be true. Mine occurred after I increased my dose of 'Xbiotic Antifungals' too much (rookie mistake due to such good results). I believe doing so killed too much of my good bacteria leaving me with the hairy tongue even though it helped with other problems. You can also eat foods rich in Prebiotics or take a supplement to encourage your innate beneficial bacteria to flourish too. I am trialing Bimuno at the moment.

Post Edited (Healing_Ways) : 11/11/2012 7:41:21 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 11/14/2012 2:32 AM (GMT 0)
I came across this forum with many sufferers of orange tongue. I believe it shares similar characteristics to hairy tongue and is definitely worth a read through.


http://tinyurl.com/cm3a5h8

By the way, I think this is one of the best tongue cleaners Ive ever used!


It is called Dr. Tung's Stainless Steel Tongue Cleaner and you can find it here http://tinyurl.com/cpnxb42

I think it is essential and their brush useful too.

Post Edited (Healing_Ways) : 11/13/2012 7:59:53 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/1/2013 5:15 AM (GMT 0)

Hi guys,

I hope we can keep some of the earlier posters involved. I know I haven't posted on this site before but I've been fighting elongated papillae for a long time (10+ years) and there is a cure, although I'm not quite there yet. For those with a fungal variety of this problem, disregard what I have to say. Also, for those that have just had this problem for a short period of time, it will probably sort itself out if not aggravated. I do not think anyone is necessarily genetically predisposed to end up with this condition, with the exception of someone with an overactive nervous system--one which completely folds under stress, but that is extremely rare. Now for the meaty stuff.

Obviously, bacteria live harmoniously in our bodies, except for the unfortunate circumstances in which the wrong strains gain a foothold. I am convinced that most everyone with this "hairy tongue" problem has a bacterial problem as a root cause, not in their stomach or some other part of their body, but specifically on their tongue.  In other words, the elongated papillae are caused by a symbiotic relationship between the papillae and the wrong strain/s of bacteria on the tongue. With a healthy flora in the mouth--a population of the bacteria that are supposed to be there--the papillae do not overgrow, they shed when they are supposed to, and the result is a healthy, smooth, dark pink tongue.

This may present itself as a rather radical idea because the common consensus seems to be that the buildup of harmful bacteria on the tongue is a result of the elongated papillae, not the other way around. This is the part that I don't think doctors and dentists have figured out. I do have great respect for the medical profession but in extreme cases like this the old adage, "Better oral hygiene is all you need" gets old very quickly, and is insulting. So, if bacteria are the main problem, what's the solution?

I do not yet know of a silver bullet to completely cure "HT," but I have made large strides. The tricky thing is, once bacteria have colonized something that offers a continuous feed source it is extremely difficult to eradicate them. Antibiotics and/or certain types of antibacterial substances might seem like the obvious answer. While they can offer temporary relief, they can also do more harm than good. And, unless someone has just a mild case of hairy tongue, they will not solve the problem (the difference between a mild case and a chronic case being that with mild, the good bacteria are still in control of the strongholds in the mouth and the bad guys are just temporarily subduing them). Even with the chronic cases, some of the broad spectrum antibiotics, like amoxicillin or types of tetracycline, are quite effective while they are being taken. The nasty bacteria are beaten back for a while and the papillae are able to cut down to a close to natural length. But, since they were largely in control to start with, the bad guys dominate the repopulation.

I have tried extreme measures to cut down the papillae, as some of you have discussed in this forum, like using razors (which was mildly effective but they grew back in a day or so). I was also sold for quite some time on the idea that the various antibacterial products designed specifically for the treatment of halitosis would be the solution. After a couple of years I realized they weren't even making a dent. In fact, my condition was less severe once I stopped taking them, which means they were knocking off more of the good bacteria than the bad bacteria. At my most desperate, I tried something that actually worked (and I mean really worked!--my tongue looked better than even the best out there), but the effects of the product wore off after about 3 days and so grew back the bacteria that were still relentlessly in control under the surface. Sorry to get hopes up but the point is, even after something that worked so well at eradicating so much bacteria (I did try it for a couple of months), the bacteria that were really in control continued to repopulate. I am not going to disclose what I used because I regret doing it as it was very dangerous. To be clear this was not a physical action of cleaning the tongue--it was aimed at bacteria. I will note that I had four or five ridiculously long free radical papillae that I could feel at the back of my tongue by folding it back. Thankfully, the "dangerous" method actually got rid of them for good, which gave me hope. However, what I am doing currently would have done that anyway.

I've got a lot more to write but this is already a long post and I have to get some shut eye. I will try to finish tomorrow and I apologize for writing so much

Post Edited (NotANoob) : 2/9/2013 10:08:57 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/2/2013 4:30 PM (GMT 0)
@NotANoob

There is no need to apologize for long posts, particularly in this area where information is so scarce. I would be interested in what you think is worth trying.

You could be correct concerning the bacterial infection on the tongue, that may explain how Lifetime Oregano Oil managed to permanently rid the first layer of the issue that has never come back after application for a few days.

I look forward to your further posts. My condition has improved quite a lot but it still hasn't gone back to normal but I will never rest until it has.

If anything positive has come from this infliction is that I now eat a lot more healthily, more vegetables, water and less crap.
Posted 2/2/2013 9:26 PM (GMT 0)
I found this and I thought it may help:

Although usually asymptomatic, complaints due to the hairy growth range from halitosis and altered taste to tickling or gagging sensation and nausea. The condition may occasionally be very persistent, as was observed in this case where repeated attempts to remove the growth proved futile. However, cure has been reported with application of 40% solution of urea, scraping, topical triamcinolone acetonide, gentian violet, thymol, salicylic acid, vitamin B complex, and in very persistent cases, surgical excision of the papillae.[3,9]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3168029/
Posted 2/2/2013 10:05 PM (GMT 0)
@ AutoImmuneCrohney

Your post was extremely informative and helpful. I took a quick look at some of the chemicals / ingredients mentioned as potential solutions and came across this page complete with before and after pictures after just 2 days

http://tinyurl.com/bwsbhcs

They were recommended to get the old fashioned BROWN Listerine. I have Listerine and one of its ingredients was the 'thymol' you mentioned in your post. That also ties in with 'NotANoob's' comments about suspecting it to be a bacterial infection.

Of course, if thymol showed success then there are ways to acquire more compared to the small amount that is probably in Listerine. I will continue looking into the other things mentioned. I wonder how many have attacked this problem more from a fungal perspective in general than a bacterial one.

I do remember hearing some suggest that Listerine was what caused their white tongue though. I don't know if that was the case but best to be aware of that too.

Post Edited (Healing_Ways) : 2/2/2013 3:18:24 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/3/2013 7:31 AM (GMT 0)

YYeess!!!

I like the way we are thinking now! I'm going to skip some of what I was going to post, for now, and focus on what AutoImmuneCrohney graciously added. And Healing_Ways, thank you for what you stated. I should have paid more attention the first time I went through this thread, but the video you linked was a GREAT example. I gave up on dentists, etc a long time ago. It actually perturbs me to see that they had such an in depth understanding of the problem in 1972 and since have largely failed to come up with a good regimen to solve it. If nothing else, the few that have found solutions have failed to make the knowledge wide spread. They knew that a disruption of the oral flora was a root cause, that the papillae were elongated, that smoking wasn't necessarily a factor, that antiseptics and/or antibiotics didn't necessarily solve the problem (and could even worsen it), and that restoration of a healthy flora was essential. Have they really failed to find the last little piece of the puzzle for so long? Maybe it's just easy to write it off and get on the oral hygiene bandwagon. Oh, and the recommendation in the video was ultimately podophyllin resin, which is definitely in the correct direction. That just adds insult to injury.

AutoImmuneCrohney, thank you and I am amazed you were able to find such sharp information. I've never seen recommendations like that (at least on the internet). I hope that doesn't make me sound arrogant, just to elude that I've been searching for that type of direct subject for a long, long time. The key component I am interested in is the debriding agents and/or those that discourage abnormal cell growth. Some of these, unfortunately, come with antibacterial properties, but as long as that component is not too strong then I think a solution is manageable. To repeat, I don't think chiefly antibiotic/antiseptic agents are a real solution because they lack the capacity to restore a healthy flora.

On the various agents AutoImmuneCrohney quoted:

-Urea has a debriding potential and is also moisturizing, and its antiseptic qualities do not seem to be overpowering. I think it could be useful in treating HT but the drawback is availability--where can one easily get a 40% solution? Even urine only has only about 2% (I believe)

-Tongue Scraping is important, and should be included in a regiment back to health, but should not be necessary afterwards. Scraping alone is not a cure unless just a mild condition exists and scraping more than once, maybe twice a day can have a negative effect (I think it can inhibit the good bacteria from coming back)

-Triamcinolone acetonide is not something I know much about. It looks like a very strong antimicrobial. Apparently it's been effective at treating geographic tongue (which i am certain is a superset of HT in rare cases). But, rinsing with hydrogen peroxide also cures GT without helping with HT, so I don't think this one is a good answer.

-Gentian Violet is another interesting agent but appears to be mainly antifungal. It might be effective in cases of thrush, but probably won't help traditional HT 

-Thymol is primarily an antibiotic and antifungal. This is no better than taking a traditional antibiotic--it wont work long term

-Vitamin B Complex is very mildly effective in helping the tongue, namely GT (there may be a rare case where HT is brought on by a Vit B deficiency but, even still, taking a supplement is not going to cure the problem). In other words, its like taking nail clippers to a gun fight.

-Surgical Excision is, in my opinion, a very expensive, short term, and futile effort. It does not even begin to treat the root cause and I think they can only get the ridiculously long papillae.

--off topic--Ranitidine was earlier mentioned in this thread and to clarify it is a histamine receptor antagonist, which to me points to cases of allergic reaction. This is another substance that may be helpful with geographic tongue but not necessarily HT

--Oregano oil, mention by Healing_Ways: I don't know much about this substance but my guess is that it's an extract with primarily antimicrobial properties. If that's the case it may help in small ways but probably wont solve the problem. If I'm wrong about what it is please let me know.

-Salicylic Acid. Nuff Said. No, I had saved this for last because it is the super-effective agent that I have been using recently (still with other pieces at work). I think it is the main ingredient to the ultimate solution, ie cure.

I was going to write two or three pages of supplemental information before I got to this point, as it is all quite important. But, since AutoImmuneCrohney cut so close I figured I might as well get to the end now. I do still plan on posting the "in between" information but it will wait for another day.

Salicylic Acid, like I said, was the ingredient that I was missing for so long. It has good debriding qualities as it aids the epidermis in this action. It has a slight antimicrobial effect, but not detrimental. But, the best part: convenience. Salicylic acid is a main ingredient in aspirin! So, what I have been doing is chewing four of the 325 mg tabs in my mouth (not swallowing), and as my saliva creates a solution I try to hold it in my mouth for 2 to 4 minutes, maybe swishing around a little and paying special attention to the tongue. Of course I spit it out when done. Oh, and I do scrape my tongue before, but not after, and just continue to spit out residue for about ten minutes (unless you would rather just swallow the aspirin, but watch the label).

I think this is the closest thing to a silver bullet in curing HT. However, it's only the debriding agent, and must still be accompanied by practices that restore a healthy flora. And I must add a disclaimer:

Do not take my word or anyone else's for fact. Do your own research and come to your own conclusions. Always keep safety in mind.

Again, sorry for length. I will try to post more in a day or so. Please, lets keep this ball rolling--I think we are on the cusp of helping a lot of desperate folks.

Healing_Ways, thanks for staying with this. On your comment about thymol and listerine, I don't think this can help in the long term because it is primarily aimed at attacking bacteria. And about your change in eating habits, is it not amazing how an ailment can be a gift in many, many ways. It sure helps to stay positive.

Post Edited (NotANoob) : 2/9/2013 10:24:16 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/3/2013 3:18 PM (GMT 0)
So glad I can help.

Here is another page I found with part of the treatment:
Suggested treatments

1 In mid cases, brushing the dorsum of the tongue with a tongue cleaner every morning for 1 month or more any improvement the condition.
2 In severe cases, with very long filiform papillae, topical application of keratolytic agents such as 30-50% trichloroacetic acid or salicylic acid in alcohol or 40% urea in water destroys the elongated papillae and restores the tongue to normal. Trichloroacetic acid is the best and should be applied with care once. It can be reapplied in 1 week’s time if there are remnants of the elongated papillae.
3 Topical or systemic antifungal do not have place in the treatment of hairy tongue.

SOURCE: http://hpathy.com/cause-symptoms-treatment/hairy-tongue/

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A little about me:
I came down with Chrohns 15 months ago ( but had symptoms long before and was in denial that "anything" was wrong" with me)

I worked in research for years at General Foods in the Biotech division and have used that experience in order to help "cure" my disease ( and other autoimmune diseases) without having to take the "hard core" drugs which can compromise our immune system. Presently down to 2/1.2GM Lialda/day
from originally taking 60mg Prednisone, and 9 mg Endocort, and 3/1.2 GM Lialda/Day.
At the time I was taking these when I was first diagnosed, I was told I would start out with them, and then move up to the next level of drugs as needed. ( I thought to myself," I dont' think so")


I am CONVINCED through reading and researching that autoimmune diseases, which are on a dramatic incline, are caused by:
Types of food we eat ( including PROCESSED), GMO's ( genetically modified food), and the herbicides and pesticides which are used. I'm sure there are other reasons, but do believe that these play a major active part.

I posted a comment on another thread in Crohn's forum and discussed it in a little more detail.
https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=17&m=2563550

If i was to give someone the smallest bit of advice ( based on my reading and own positive results when applied) it would be to eat WHOLE Organic foods!. No processed!
By eating organic, you omit the possibility of eating GMO's.
Also note: Eating animals which have been fed GMO, such as corn and soy, are a "no-no"
Thus, seek out organic farmers in your area.
Stay away from anything containing CORN or SOY

Continue to do your own research also:
Here are a few links that may help ( i have a ton on other topics regarding Crohns)

Here are more links to research :
http://bestmeal.info/monsanto/documentary.shtml
http://www.nongmoshoppingguide.com/why-should-i-avoid-gmos.html
http://www.responsibletechnology.org/gmo-dangers/65-health-risks
http://www.responsibletechnology.org/gmo-dangers

good Google searches : Autoimmune Diseases and inflammation
Causes of Autoimmune Disease
Natural ways to cure Autoimmune diseases

You can substitute the word Crohns instead of autoimmune also
Posted 2/3/2013 5:20 PM (GMT 0)
@ NotANoob

Some time ago I looked into Salicylic Acid because it was mentioned quite a lot with HT treatments as well as GT but I gave up because I couldn't find a readily avaliable source that wasn't filled with other chemicals until your mention of asprin!

I notice you mention practices that restore a healthy flora are you talking specifically about the mouth / tongue, the gut or both?

Since changing my diet mostly due to this HT, I have found I have higher levels of consistent energy, feel better and well I feel great to be honest and have recently got back into my exercise too.

I looked into oral probiotics, what is your take on these? (S. salivarius and B. coagulans, BLIS K12 etc).

'AutoImmuneCrohney' suggestions concerning organic whole foods is definitely a big part of the equation as well.

Along with eating a better diet I found improved energy almost immediately after adding Inliven organic fermented probiotic powder to my regime. There are many other organic supplements that can be useful as well. After all, I believe the root cause of the HT to be an imbalance in gut flora. The only mystery to me is why the tongue wouldn't go back to normal after your gut problem had been bought back to balance.

Every other symptom I had along with the intestinal imbalance has pretty much gone and only the HT remained.
Posted 2/3/2013 11:55 PM (GMT 0)
@ NotANoob

I did a bit more reading concerning the salicylic acid in aspirin and noticed people using the crushed tablets as an exfoliate face mask!

Here is a link where people are talking about that.

http://tinyurl.com/bttlsj2


Which brand did you use?

How long did it take before you noticed any improvements?

I found it interesting when someone said ' As the drug ages, there will be more salicylic acid'

By the way other posts suggest that 5 aspirin tablets of 325mg will contain about 2% salicylic acid.

Edit: Update:

I have been chewing 4x 300mg aspirin a day and holding it in my mouth (without swallowing) for over 5 minutes as well as my usual brush / cleaning routine. I also rinse with the original Listerine mouthwash 1-2 times a day.

I have noticed a big improvement already!

Note that I still maintain a healthier balanced diet with lots of fruit, vegetables, a few organic Probiotic supplement powders, plenty of filtered tap / mineral water, moderate exercise, less processed foods and a conscious decision to think twice before choosing anything to eat.

As always, try anything at your own risk and do your research. I found warnings concerning salicylic acid in body wash products so beware. I also noticed a warning on a website (and my bonjela tube) about salicylic acid, children and Reye's syndrome.

http://tinyurl.com/bxbejb9

Post Edited (Healing_Ways) : 2/6/2013 8:46:14 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/15/2013 2:44 PM (GMT 0)
Hi everyone-

Kevin's original post was what caught my attention. He described my condition to the "T" so I wanted to share my wonderful news. I have finally found a Dr. who knew what he was talking about. He's a Dentist AND Dermatologist, which at first made me think he would have a generic diagnosis. It turns out, Dr. Drore Eisen is pure genius. I told him how I'd been treated for 4 months for a Fungal imbalance, including Nystatin, Clotriamazole tablets, 6 weeks of Dyflucan, and several mouthwashes. Then, treated for a bacterial imbalance with several additional mouthwashes and antibiotics. None of them worked and I had just about lost all hope. He took one look and diagnosed me with HT. This had resulted from taking Prednisone. He prescribed Tazorac, which, believe it or not, is an acne medication (although safe for the mouth).

Tazorac is pretty darn expensive and usually not covered with insurance so he gave me every single sample he had for free. He instructed to firmly massage the tongue twice a day and to not eat or drink anything for at least 40 mins (I do it in the morning after brushing my teeth and then again at night before bed after brushing). Although you will find contradicting advice on every website, he said do NOT scrub the tongue, for it will elongate the papillae even more. Stock up on plenty of sugar free hard candy and gum to chew/suck on as much as possible to encourage salivation. Drink plenty of water and stay away from sugar, as I'm sure you already know. Also, do not use Listerine! Scope is OK b/c it doesn't contain the same alcohol as Listerine. He said it usually takes about 3 months to clear up completely, but I have noticed a dramatic difference in only a week!! He said if after a month it appears to be completely cleared, continue application 2-3 weeks after to ensure it gone. Those who have been diagnosed with HT are at a much higher risk for developing it again, but it could be anywhere from 6 months to 20 yrs. I don't even worry about that now considering I have a solution to run to. I can't describe how thrilled I am to finally have a cure! PLEASE do yourselves a favor and try Tazorac and stop putting yourselves in danger with razors and other harmful experiments. Please let me know if you have any other questions....Go get it now!!!! :)
Posted 2/22/2013 2:58 AM (GMT 0)
@ Blue Magoo

What was the % of your Tazorac?

Was it a clear gel?

Thanks.
Posted 2/24/2013 1:02 AM (GMT 0)
It is .1% and is a clear gel. I was instructed to massage a little less than dime size amount on the tongue for 30-40 seconds twice/day. Do not eat or drink anything for at least 40 mins after. Good luck! :)
Posted 2/24/2013 2:11 PM (GMT 0)

Blue Magoo said...
It is .1% and is a clear gel. I was instructed to massage a little less than dime size amount on the tongue for 30-40 seconds twice/day. Do not eat or drink anything for at least 40 mins after. Good luck! :)

Thanks, that's exactly the same one I got then. Depending on where you are, it can be very difficult to source, some places no longer sell it and others require an official prescription for it. However, www.goldpharma.com had it in different sizes and it arrived international in just over a week or so. They sell Zorac 0.05% gel 60g, Zorac 0.1% gel 15g and Zorac 0.1% gel 60 g.

It is called ZORAC GEL in some places but it's the same as Tazorac. As mentioned, it is expensive but with this condition, I don't think anyone will care too much about that.
Posted 2/24/2013 9:30 PM (GMT 0)
Wonderful! I hope everyone can try it and finally leave HT behind them. smilewinkgrin
Posted 2/25/2013 5:17 AM (GMT 0)
@ Blue Magoo & Healing_Ways

Looks like only you two are trying this remedy at this point. Healing_Ways, I'm praying for you and hoping this works which will give me more hope that it will work on me also since it worked on you both. I will be ordering this tomorrow and apply it as soon as I receive it but please do us all a favor and keep us posted on your progress. We'd all love to know if there really is something out there that we can all use. I hope this works on everyone because I'm sick and tired of having this condition for so long without seeing any improvements no matter what I try. Lets keep our fingers crossed guys!!! Once again Blue Magoo, thank you so much for sharing this with us.
Posted 2/25/2013 11:54 PM (GMT 0)

FThisCondition said...
@ Blue Magoo & Healing_Ways

Looks like only you two are trying this remedy at this point. Healing_Ways, I'm praying for you and hoping this works which will give me more hope <--snip-->

I have only been trying this remedy for a few days so I will reserve judgement for now. I will of course keep you all posted on any progress or lack of.
Posted 2/27/2013 5:17 AM (GMT 0)

Blue Magoo said...
It is .1% and is a clear gel. I was instructed to massage a little less than dime size amount on the tongue for 30-40 seconds twice/day. Do not eat or drink anything for at least 40 mins after. Good luck! :)

I just noticed that mine is in fact 0,05% not 0.1% (I definitely ordered 0.1%). I will contact goldpharma but I am not impressed, particularly given that it was a first order.

Edit: Their customer service dept have already responded and after I sent images of the incorrect order, they have now instructed the pharmacy to re-ship the order.

This website link has some information about the gel that I found interesting, it also shows many of its different names too. http://www.igenericdrugs.com/?s=Zorac

Post Edited (Healing_Ways) : 2/27/2013 3:22:44 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/27/2013 4:02 PM (GMT 0)
I just bought this yesterday. .1% 60g. Hopefully they don't mess up on my order and I'm really hoping this works. Keeping my fingers crossed!
Posted 2/28/2013 10:51 PM (GMT 0)
That's great you were able to order some...My Dr. gave me a few of the .05% samples and said they will work as well, but to try and use the .1% first. This coming Tuesday will mark one month for me since beginning this treatment. I have seen a remarkable improvement, but still have probably 2 or 3 more weeks to go. It's extremely hard staying away from sugar for me, but the times I do give in I brush immediately and apply some gel. I've actually been applying it 3 times/day recently just to see if it helps accelerate the healing. Keep your mouths moist at all times, too! Like I said, sugar free hard candy or gum and lots of water. I'm not sure how severe everyone else's HT is, but please don't lose hope. He said it will take an average of 2-3 months for most patients. Unless extremely severe, this should clear it up for everyone. Please let me know if you have any other questions...I will definitely keep you up to date on my recovery and will be praying for a fast healing for you guys, as well!! tongue
Posted 3/1/2013 6:45 PM (GMT 0)
Do you know if you can drink any alcoholic beverages? Some alcohol doesn't have sugar like whiskey and vodka but beer has sugar that turns into yeast after fermented. I do go out drinking some weekends so just wanted to make sure if it is okay or should I completely stay off alcohol until I'm using this.
Posted 3/1/2013 7:44 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, he said it's OK to drink plain alcohol, such as vodka and whiskey. Stay away from wines and flavored liquor. Just make sure to drink water along with it and afterwards. I drink vodka with diet cranberry juice quite often and don't believe it has prevented or slowed my progress at all. The only watch-out is how much alcohol dries the mouth out...you can definitely still go out and have fun though!
Posted 3/1/2013 7:51 PM (GMT 0)
Hi,

I'm new here, but I've been reading this thread for a while now.
I've been suffering from extreme halitosis and hairy tongue for more then 12 years and it has ruined my life.
I've missed out on so many things, it basicly took away my youth (I'm almost 30 years old). I bought salicylic acid and applied it a few days ago. I noticed the hair getting shorter but not what i expected.
My tongue became totally white after applying it and then the next day skin would come of. I could pull the skin of and guess what was underneath it...... Yessssss new hair.
Maybe the salicylic acid was too agressive so maybe my tongue responded by growing papillae real fast back. I don't know what to do anymore. My tongue looks gross and a the hair is back just in 1 day :(.
Posted 3/1/2013 8:00 PM (GMT 0)
Please forget about salicylic acid and if possible, order the Tazorac like we've been talking. I've seen an improvement almost daily. I feel so bad for you. I've only had it for 5 months and felt like I had to give up trying. It's such a depressing condition that not many Dr.'s know about. Don't lose hope...this will help you!!
Posted 3/2/2013 4:26 AM (GMT 0)

Billie65 said...
Hi,

I'm new here, but I've been reading this thread for a while now.
I've been suffering from extreme halitosis and hairy tongue for more then 12 years and it has ruined my life.
I've missed out on so many things, it basicly took away my youth (I'm almost 30 years old). I bought salicylic acid and applied it a few days ago. I noticed the hair getting shorter but not what i expected.
My tongue became totally white after applying it and then the next day skin would come of. I could pull the skin of and guess what was underneath it...... Yessssss new hair.
Maybe the salicylic acid was too agressive so maybe my tongue responded by growing papillae real fast back. I don't know what to do anymore. My tongue looks gross and a the hair is back just in 1 day :(.

I also noticed that the Salicylic acid shortened the hairs but it was never consistent and seemed to only do so much. I agree that Tazorac is the one to try, you can order it from the link I posted but make sure you check you have received 0.1% and not 0.05% like mine was.
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