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Posted 9/22/2009 2:08 AM (GMT 0)
I have a son that I had to take to the ER this weekend for blood in his stool. There looked to be quite a bit of blood in the water. The doctor seemed to be concerned about Crohn's. I was wanting to know if bad breath is linked to this disease.

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Posted 9/22/2009 2:56 AM (GMT 0)
Hmmm, Ive personally never heard anything about bad breath being linked to Crohns. 

But I did a little search about it and this is what I came up with...

In Naturopathic medicine, bad breath is often indicative of improper digestion & elimination of foods, toxaemia or defective elimination via the liver, kidneys, colon & skin.

And on a search on IBS one of the symptoms was bad breath.

Posted 9/22/2009 3:11 AM (GMT 0)
In addition to the above that MAG wrote, I'm suspicious about bacterial overgrowth also being a possible reason for bad breath issues (which BTW both IBS and IBDers tend to have----bacterial overgrowth----).

Bleeding is commonly associated with ulcerative colitis, and with crohn's especially when the crohn's is affecting the colon (where ulcerative colitis hangs out).




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Posted 9/22/2009 3:39 AM (GMT 0)
It can, but not always. Bad breath is not an emergency but it is an indicatory of something not quite right in the body system.

The blood is much more concerning.
Posted 9/22/2009 4:07 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you, I am concerned. After seeing the doctor and hearing what he said I started thinking about my son's breath. Not to sound cruel but it always smells badly. I make sure that he takes care of his teeth but after all of this, I was thinking are the two linked. The doctor is not sure, Crohn's seemed to be his biggest concern. We are being scheduled to see a GI. What is the difference between Crohn's, IBD, IBS???? Thank you all for taking the time to comment.
Posted 9/22/2009 5:31 AM (GMT 0)
Crohn's is a form of IBD (inflammatory bowel disease) it also includes ulcerative colitis (another form of IBD which affects the colon/rectom area only...crohn's can affect any part of the GI tract from mouth to anus.

IBS is irritable bowel syndrom, there is no inflammation involved with IBS as there is with IBD (either CD or ulcerative colitis (UC), there is also no bleeding involved unless an IBSer has a hemheroid(s). It is a syndrom, the affects are similar to IBD (which is a disease) with frequency of bowel movements as well as urgency and even excessive mucous (all which are symptoms of IBD---either crohn's or UC---).

One patient can have both IBS and an IBD (either CD or UC).

Hopefully once the GI runs test he/she will be able to confirm what exactly is going on.

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Posted 9/22/2009 5:34 AM (GMT 0)
I should have added that there are many more symptoms with IBD but you can get all that detailed info by googling IBD...and that gut pain can be fairly common with either IBD or IBS as well, for either condition symptoms vary from patient to patient as well, even from flare to flare.

Good luck :)
Posted 9/22/2009 9:16 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you for the information, I greatly appreciate it. :)
Posted 9/23/2009 5:06 AM (GMT 0)
I have always wondered about the bad breath..i think its an indicator...in alot of illness...unless their is some type of unfinished dental work..or the tonsils..are filled with pus..this will give him bad breath..and he has to gargle with salt water...hot salt water..to resolve the issue..i have heard though..that this is a sign of diabetes..maybe he should get checked..
Posted 9/23/2009 5:58 PM (GMT 0)
Bad breath can also be caused by certain medications as well.


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Posted 9/24/2009 2:26 AM (GMT 0)
HI I AM ALSO AN OSTOMATE AND HAVE HAD MY ILEOSTOMY FOR 8YRS NOW BUT SINCE MY LAST SURGERY 5MTHS AGO FOR A HERNIA REPAIR AND RE-FASHIONING OF MY STOMA I HAVE HAD TERRIBLE TROUBLE WITH BAD BREATH TO THE POINT THAT I CANT GET CLOSE TO ANYONE WHEN I SPEAK AS I'M SO EMBARASSED BY THIS. I HAVE SPOKEN TO MY DOCTOR AND ALL HE SAY'S IS CHEW GUM,BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A BAG CHEWING GUM JUST CAUSES TO MUCH GAS IN THE BAG SO WHAT DO U DO??? HELP PLS...... ROSE-BUD40
Posted 9/24/2009 4:11 AM (GMT 0)
You should most definitely be taking a good probiotic daily and indefinitely, I've often read that it aids for those that have had an ileostomy as well....BTW, it's really hard to read posts written in all caps (apparently it's also considered as yelling) a mod will likely ask you to change your sig into regular captions...just a heads-up.

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Posted 9/25/2009 2:19 AM (GMT 0)
My son has had Crohn's for three years. Before he was diagnosed he had terrible breath and we did not know where it was coming from. He is still not in remission but has been on Remicade and is now on Humira although his breath has improved significantly. Often when his gut is acting up I can tell from his breath. Hope this helps.
Posted 9/25/2009 3:42 AM (GMT 0)
I have chronic bad breath and it is way worse when I feel sick. I think part of it is dehydration. I use a breath spray and hope for the best. My husband often tells me my breath stinks when I think it smells fine so imagine how bad it is when I think it is bad lol. I guess I'm just to the point I don't care.
Posted 9/25/2009 3:53 AM (GMT 0)

about a year before my daughter showed any symptoms of Crohn's, she often had really bad breath. I kept meaning to bring it up with her doc, but didn't want to do it in front of her because I didn't want her to be self conscious about it. Now, I know that it probably is a sign that something is wrong - even a sinus infection can cause bad breath.   

Posted 9/25/2009 4:17 PM (GMT 0)
Yes Gut issues are manifested in your breath! skull   LOL

I am very very aware of this especially when I am having an active flare. I am very concious of my oral hygiene and sense having crohns I have stepped it up 10 fold! I do have great teeth and I take care of my mouth and always stay aware of my breath...It does not smell because of my vigilence! I floss daily! that is the number one thing...I have mouth wash, floss, tooth paste and a tooth brush at work! I have floss and a tooth brush and tooth paste at school!

I drink lots of water and hot tea...I was diagnosed at 14 and my mom would always say she new I was not feeling well because she could tell in my breath...she would say hows your stomach because your breath has a certain smell to it the last week...(A Mothers love eh!! LOL)

Anyhow drink lots of water I cant express that enough and be vigilent about flossing and brushing and mouth washing...I also noticed that because I do this I dont have a problem with oral manifistations of Crohns in the form of mouth soars etc...

Posted 9/25/2009 8:35 PM (GMT 0)
Tread with caution when it comes to mouth wash, they contain alcohol which in turn actually can increase bad breath cuz it dries out the mucous membranes in the lining of the mouth.


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Posted 1/23/2013 12:14 AM (GMT 0)
Yes people with crohns do have really bad breath. I have been suffering from putrid breath for four years. I have beautiful healthy teeth and gums but because gut smells travel through the mouth people think you have problems in your mouth. After many different specialists which included two gi's with no help from any of them. I just started seeing a third gi and his first suggestion was crohns. Im waiting for the test results now. Its not due to poor hygiene or bacteria. Or yeast. Good luck with your son. Find him a GOOD gi
Posted 1/23/2013 3:10 AM (GMT 0)
I've had crohn's for many years and I've also suffered from bad breath on and off during the years.  A big cause may be dehydration.  When I am dehydrated from the diarrhea, then I notice my breath is bad.  Also when one has a lot of runs, it upsets the balance of good bacteria, and bad bacteria may take over and cause many digestive complaints, so yogurt and probiotics may help that. 

Another cause could be from sinus drainage or infection, so it's always best to run it by the Dr.  and have him check it out. 

Posted 1/23/2013 7:17 AM (GMT 0)
I have a friend that has cd and another friend that has UC and neither of them have bad breath issues...my daughter has been DX with IBS and she doesn't have bad breath either but I have issues on occasion with bad breath and I take a high enough amount of probiotics daily, have really good dental hygiene (floss daily and brush 2x/day) so I don't know what's going on with my breath issues...I mentioned it yrs ago to the GI that DX me with my CD and he said my bad breath issues had nothing to do with me having IBD but never gave any suggestions as to what would cause it.
Posted 1/27/2013 2:44 AM (GMT 0)
I would think bad breath is a cause of bacterial overgrowth as well any inflammatory conditions in the gut. Before I was diagnosed, my sister was around me a lot and she would say "I can tell something is not right in your body". It was bad for a while. I'm getting it under control.
Posted 1/27/2013 7:17 AM (GMT 0)
Except, I actually had bad breath issues even before I became sick with IBD...I wish I could figure out where mine stems from...and it doesn't explain why my 2 IBD friends don't have bad breath as I do.
Posted 10/12/2013 7:50 AM (GMT 0)
i'm still suffering with the breath issue so i would like to know how your sons situation is
Posted 10/15/2013 3:17 PM (GMT 0)
I have suffered from bad breath and chewed gum constantly. I find that if I brush my tongue frequently it helps with any bad breath smell and as mentioned before, drink lots of water!
Posted 10/15/2013 10:46 PM (GMT 0)
Does his diet consist of low fat, high protein or low carb foods?

 

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