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Posted 4/9/2006 6:39 PM (GMT 0)
Hello i haven;t posted for a while. I am experinceing sleeping probs again not sure why. i go to bed relaxed but up every two hours sometimes. I am going to cut coffee out early on in the evening because that as an effect. Drink a warm glass of milf and see if that helps any if this continues more i will call my family doc and explain to him whats happening. i imagine that most people would feel cranky after not getting a good night sleep as i know i do. anyway does anyone have any suggestions other that sleep meds that would help. We don;t have alot of money to keep putting out money for prescribed crap. Thanks Twiggy2
Posted 4/9/2006 8:27 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Twiggy,  Welcome back.  You can try benadryl which you can buy over the counter.  It is the active ingredient in Tylenol PM.  But talk to your doctor before you add this to be sure it wont interact with anything else you take.  It would help you get to sleep though also, you may want to cut your caffeine intake back before early evening, say like to mid morning.  There are several studies that show that caffeine effects the nervous system for several hours after ingested.  Or try decaf coffee.  Meditation works for some people, I like to read before bed sometimes or listen to my ipod with classical music to relax.  But then I do take a prescription med for sleep so I don't have many problems anymore.  Good luck getting some sleep....

Posted 4/9/2006 10:13 PM (GMT 0)
I've read that it helps to form a pattern or routine before going to sleep. For example take a shower, brush your teeth and read for fifteen minutes. Allergy medicenes can really knock you out too (more so than tylenol PM)--but be careful with that. I hope I helped a little.
Posted 4/10/2006 10:16 AM (GMT 0)
I have the same problems, sometimes i use melatonin which is off the shelf medicine which helps me to get sleepy. i also try to sleep at the same time everyday which seems to help me because the body gets adjusted to sleep at the same time and offcouse no naps durring the day so you can get deep sleep durring the night since you will be tiered, also don't eat food late at night, avoid caffiene at all costs, also if you can do some excersizes and a hot bath 2 hours before its time to sleep will get you tiered at night and sleepy.

Posted 4/10/2006 5:55 PM (GMT 0)
No caffine or sugar in the evening and exercise may help.
Posted 4/11/2006 9:44 AM (GMT 0)
I don't know how physically fit you are but if you can I would suggest taking a long walk or go to a gym.  I've been using an elyptical machine for 30 mins. every other day.  And lifting some light weights.  I burn up a sweat you wouldn't believe and driving home I feel so exhausted I usually have enough time to take a warm/hot bath and hit the sheets.  I have taken Benadryl.  It's a quick, cheap fix, but of course you should check with your dr. before taking it. Also if you take it for several days you will notice your pupils dilate non stop.  It's kinda freaky, but it doesn't affect your vision.  I can tell you if you take it past 9pm don't plan on getting up anytime befor 10:30 am-even if you set an alarm clock.  You don't wake up feeling refreshed and you'll drag through most of the day.  Good luck to you. KROCKS :-)
Posted 4/11/2006 11:02 AM (GMT 0)
Twiggy ..Not a night goes by that I do not have my Hot milk with just a wee bit of cinnamon to add a pleasurable taste........I just nuke it for 2 min and off I go it makes me feel all warm and cosy like I am wrapped in a big oversized housecoat lol......I do recommend this alot on A/P forum as it all natural and the milk has an ingredient that activates when heated........Good Luck and hoping you sleep better.......others have great ideas as well ........God Bless.........Lyn.
Posted 4/11/2006 1:40 PM (GMT 0)
I thank u for all your supportive responses. I only heat my milf for less than a minute maybe i should try heating longer. I guess maybe i think that the milf will sour if heated to long anyway i will try this evening. Since i cut the coffee out early did help and i even stay away from to much pop. I have found that i haven;t had as much awaken time through the night. SO i must be doing something right haha anyway all have a good day Twiggy2
Posted 4/14/2006 2:39 PM (GMT 0)
Hi i posted a message a couple of days ago but i cannot seem to locate it so i would like to repeat the question, i am on 10mgs of cipralex a days and i take it in the morning. i have a question about taking it a night instead i have sleep problems some nights not always but if seritonin helps promote sleep what harm would it do to start taking it a night. Some people probably take there meds at night so i thought maybe i could to. Twiggy2

Posted 4/14/2006 9:35 PM (GMT 0)
Hey Twiggy,  You had a dropped message?  Sorry about that I didnt see it....I dont know about taking Lexapro at night, hopefully some others who are on it will post.  I am on Effexor and it makes me kind of jittery so I take it in AM.  But all my other antiD's I always took at night like Zoloft and Luvox.  I hope you find the answer your looking for...if not perhaps you can ask your pharmacist or physicians nurse?  Take care
Posted 4/15/2006 3:51 AM (GMT 0)
Thankyou for your responses. I am going to try starting to take it at night as on the prescribtion bottle it says to take in the evening but i always thought that i had to take it in the morning because that is what i was prescribed in the past. but i am going to start at a half dose at night then skip the morning dose that i would normally take then the second night go a full 10mgs see what happens. I think after easter is over i am going to seek a second pychologist a may have to get a referral but not sure. I asked my current doc if i could increase my dose to 20mg and he said it would not do anything but i think it could but i will not increase my dose until i have the ok to do so.Twiggy2
Posted 4/15/2006 3:36 PM (GMT 0)
Talked to pharmasist today and he said that i should not increase my dose without my doc advise because 10mgs of cipralex is often enough so i will continue to stay a the recommended dose just try to take it in the evening and see if that does anything. Tonight before i go to bed i will take a half dose and that tommorow evening i will take a full dose. I can't see it doing any harm so let you all know what happens. Twiggy2
Posted 4/19/2006 1:41 PM (GMT 0)
I have a question, i have switched changed taking my meds from in the morning and now taking then at night, the last two mornings i have woken up by vision has been blurry thought that i was going to pass out this morning everything around me felt like it was going dark, very weird. and i still have back headaches, i am going to call around to different psychologist today and see if they will accept me as a new patient and if not i am going to call my current doc and explain whats happening hopefully he will finally listen and do something. Anyway just wanted to know if anyone has experinces like this can it be morning anxiety or may it possibly the depression trying to haunt me again. Thanks Twiggy2.
Posted 4/19/2006 11:11 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Twiggy,  You havent increased your dose right?  just switched the time you take it?  I dont really know what to tell you except I get blurry vision alot with my MS.  that is really weird you may want to call your doctor....
Posted 4/20/2006 2:05 AM (GMT 0)
Hello els right i have only changed the time that i take it not the dose. When i wake wake up in the morning i have vision problems like foggie which usually gets better as the days goes on also i have headaches mostly in the morning which also usually improves throughout the day. I am cutting back on caffeine intake and have been trying to take this new tylenol gel caps they are 500mg per capsule and they are good for tension headaches muscle aches and pains asnd so on. they seem to do ok but i don;t want to much of them through the day as i know they are not good for your internal system like kidneys and stuff. SO anyway in the morning if the same symptoms continue i am either going to the emerg or calling my pysch. I have had some people tell that i have some symptoms related to MS but how can i get my doc to listen do i have to be in a full blown episode or pass out before i can get answers. Just venting hope not boring you any Thanks for listening. I am little scared but I just would like answers i would feel better knowing i would be able to deal with it properly. Talk care Twiggy2
Posted 4/20/2006 7:12 PM (GMT 0)
Twiggy,  What I would suggest is if your having blurry vision you need to see an ophthalmologist about this.  Not just a regular eye doctor but one who specialises in the eye...if you have had some discussion of possible MS then it should be noted that a lot of MS patients do have eye problems and it all starts in the optic nerve.  Which can also cause headaches.  So it may not be all something your psychiatrist can take care of.  If you haven't have a really good eye exam in the last year you may want to look into getting one made.  Also, you may be getting headaches from cutting your caffeine intake which is something that can happen.  My neurologist has suggested when I have a headache to drink a coke or a cup of coffee just for the caffeine.  So that may also be something to take a look at. 
Posted 4/21/2006 2:09 AM (GMT 0)
els, i soemtime do drink one cup a day of coffee sometimes two. I do find that they help eleviate my headaches. I went to the hospital today and the do checked me out quite throughly, and said that i have tension type headaches and to take ibroprophin 3 time a day which should help and follow up with my family doc. Other than that he doesn;t seem to think it is anything to serious. Hopefully it will do the trick for now until i see him again on the 3 of may Twiggy2 So still not sure about the blurry vision part but i will keep in mind about the optimologist.
Posted 4/21/2006 2:06 PM (GMT 0)
I have a quick question, i have read some books that say that depression is realted to supressed anger i don;t think that is etirely the hole thing linked to depression but it has soemthing to do with it, anyway does anyone have any ideas on that. Thanks Twiggy2
Posted 4/21/2006 2:15 PM (GMT 0)
Twiggy,  Depression can be related to an number of things, not just suppressed anger.  Here is a couple of websites you can check out to do some research on it if you like.... http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/depression.cfm http://www.clinical-depression.co.uk/ http://www.psychologyinfo.com/depression/
Posted 4/22/2006 2:17 AM (GMT 0)
thank you els for you reponse i will check out those web sites thank you. Have a good evening talk soon Twiggy2

Posted 4/23/2006 2:08 PM (GMT 0)
I can confirm also that deppresion causes suppresed anger, not all patients might have it , my father does. when he is upset from something he goes silent and wants for the right opportunity to release his anger with an angry sentance or word, also this sentence or word is some times not clear its like a hint or a puzzel, he wants us to think about something we did wrong today, or yesterday or even last week. or he is just sad about something generic from life, i don't know.
Posted 4/23/2006 6:49 PM (GMT 0)
Hi it twiggy2 i have been looking at clarocet as a possible natural alternative does anyone know or tried such theorpy and can i take it along with my current 10mgs of cipralex eventually being able to stop taking the cipralex and continue taking clarocet, just a question as i am going to as my psychologist tomorrow.
Posted 4/26/2006 8:01 AM (GMT 0)
sup twiggy,
I am a new member to this sight and have sleep problems as well. Have a problem going to sleep without being intoxicated in some way. I have never taken sleeping aids so i can't help you there, but there is one thing that i have found that works for me. Physical activity such as jogging or lifting weights, followed by a hot bath seems to help me relax, relieve stress and get ready for bed.
I also am a firm believer that drinking at least 2 liters of water a day will help relieve headaches and overall make a person feel much better.
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