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Posted 10/14/2006 12:59 PM (GMT 0)
just want to share that I cured myself from depression by using a technique called Traumatic Incident Reduction (see www.tir.org)

Alison

Posted 10/14/2006 2:28 PM (GMT 0)
really wish that i could believe that . i had this horrible illness since i was sweet 16 . am 37 now and i still have not find the cure of all cures for it . am still looking for the magic answer . once a depressive , always a depressive . but if you believe that you are cured from depression , you believe it . just want to give you some advice , the depression will be back in your life . maybe not now but somewhere in your future . you just can't get rid of depression that easily . good luck sweetie sad

Posted 10/14/2006 2:55 PM (GMT 0)
Why would you believe that you can't get rid of depression? It was 20 years ago. Was on this site answering a question on chronic pain & thought I must tell you all. Have you tried Traumatic Incident Reduction? It wasn't easy at all. A year of hard work on my part. If you believe nothing will work, then it won't.

All the best.
Posted 10/14/2006 3:45 PM (GMT 0)
Good for you, Allys!  So glad you found something that worked for you ... thanks for sharing.  When you talk about "a year of hard work on your part" ... how did you motivate youself to stick with it that long?  Do you still use TIR techniques, or do you just not feel depressed anymore?

Mov'in rite along  :-)

Posted 10/14/2006 6:58 PM (GMT 0)
Dear wmnak,

So glad to hear a positive comment! I am so impressed with how TIR works that I am now trained in facilitating it! The success rates are awesome & i would recommend it to anyone who can afford it. I saw a facilitator roughly twice a month for a year & each session I reached what they call 'an end point' for whatever I was dealing with on that session. It is totally client centred. there is no time limit to a session so one lasted one hour & one lasted 5 hours! It cannot fail to help because it is congnitive & deep. It is literally mind-changing & any process that can make someone challenge every thought & beleif pattern must be worth a go. I could have done more sessions more frequently but recurrent renal colic & a long journey to the facilitator& lack of funds meant that I chose to go less frequently.

What motivated me? A desire to move on & seeing after the first session how simply amazing the process is. It is not like counselling where someone tells you what to do or makes suggestions. the client works it all out themselves & so it is completely empowering.
Having been challenged & introduced to new ways of thinking I can never be depressed again. I can be sad when I want to be & that can be OK, but hopeless & stuck in that deeep dark pit.....NO MORE!

Keep on 'mov'in'. Try it if you can ...just one session...& see the results. You can find your local facilitator on the website.

Best wishes
from
Alison

PS I could not miss telling you all about this technique & was shocked by the initial negative reaction. Why not try it?
Posted 10/15/2006 6:43 PM (GMT 0)

Allys said...
It is literally mind-changing & any process that can make someone challenge every thought & beleif pattern must be worth a go.                                                                        What motivated me? A desire to move on & seeing after the first session how simply amazing the process is.

Thanks for the details  :-)
Posted 10/16/2006 11:45 AM (GMT 0)
Dear wmnak,

It's a pleasure! I could not fail to share the success of this procedure. It was first used in the treatment of war-related mental health issues. One case study tells of a lady whose child was shot dead in front of her & who then developed depression for many. many years. Through this technique she freed herself of this depression & became happy for the first time since her child's death.

My best wishes to you an your healing journey. I was able to deal with issues from my childhood & upbringing that led to an unhelpful thought process.

Wishing you well.

Alison
Posted 10/16/2006 7:45 PM (GMT 0)
Allys

I think the negative reaction could stem from the fact that you are a paid facilitator. The feeling I get when I read your posts are like you are trying to drum up business. I am not saying this is a bad thing, but my guess the reaction would be greater had you not had a financial interest in finding clients.

I read the linked tir website. I does sound like a decent program. There appears to be nothing in the New England USA area.

I am very happy for you that you saw your way out of the darkness.

tase
Posted 10/16/2006 8:06 PM (GMT 0)
Dear Tase,

Just to let you know that I am not a paid facilitator & certainly not drumming up business! I am a Mum & housewife, educating our son at home. I facilitate TIR for friends & family in my own time for no payment whatsoever.

I was on the chronic pain site & thought I'd just post info on it as I would feel bad about not letting everyone know that this is out there. It just goes to show that you think someone is doing isn't always the case!

Best wishes
Alison
Posted 10/16/2006 8:14 PM (GMT 0)
It is simply that most of us pour our hearts and soles and sweat and tears here supporting each other, and you come along with one brief sentence stating you cured yourself and click on this link and you will be cured too.
Posted 10/17/2006 10:45 AM (GMT 0)
I know because I have been there but my conscience would not let me keep quiet about something that helped me & thousands of others to get better.

Alison
Posted 10/17/2006 11:22 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Allys, Thank you for sharing your information here.  I am glad that this form of treatment has helped you get better and maintain that level.

I dont know if you have read on this forum often or not but there are many who do post about alternative forms of treatment.  Things that have worked for them and or worked for their family/friends.  For those of us who have very traumatic events in our lives or childhoods and suffer with Chronic Major Depression and who have went through many different forms of treatments and counselings it is perhaps easy to be suspicious of the alternative forms.

I dont want to get into a debate into the differances between the two...but in one of your posts you stated that...

What motivated me? A desire to move on & seeing after the first session how simply amazing the process is. It is not like counselling where someone tells you what to do or makes suggestions. the client works it all out themselves & so it is completely empowering.

Counseling isnt where someone tells you what to do...In fact, when you go into counseling or CBT you work the program and it is all up to you to do the work.  There are no miracles cures, you pull your inner strength out and work though your issues to be able to deal with them and hopefully live a better life.  It isnt an easy process and it shouldnt be easy, especially for those of us who have had traumatic childhood events in our lives.  We work though the pain and face it...so yeah I too am skeptical when I hear that you can be "cured on the first visit". 

As I said before thank you for sharing... :-)

Posted 10/17/2006 2:16 PM (GMT 0)
Yes I too had traumatic events as a child & absolutely agree with what you say. It is called Traumatic Incident Reduction precisely for that reason. Trauma as children is often the root cause. I didn't say that I was cured after one session I said that it took me a year. What I did say is that I had amazing benefit from one session & that is always the case as the session does not end until an end point is reached.

As the layers were peeled off I had more & more trauma to deal with as we supress most of it.

Easy, it wasn't! It was the hardest thing I ever did. Awesome it was!

Maybe I should have kept it all to myself & then no-one could hear about it or even be aware that it is out there. For me, sharing ideas & treatments has been a huge part of what helped me to get better. No, I could not have failed to let people know about TIR.

Best wishes to you all
Alison
Posted 10/17/2006 3:41 PM (GMT 0)
Alison, I apologize for my statement of "cured on the first visit" your right that you didnt say that and did state that it took you a year.  I am glad that this has worked for you and I have a close friend who has dealt with her depression by an alternative form....so my mind isnt closed to these ideas.

My only point was that depression is so differant in everyone we have to find what the right form of treatment is for us as individuals is.  I think if you have professional advice, supervision and feel comfortable with such treatment then it is certianly up to the individual to decide what is right for them...traditional forms of treatment or alternative forms does not matter.

I am glad you have shared this so hopefully it may help someone who is interested in this form of treatment.  Take care

Posted 10/18/2006 2:30 AM (GMT 0)
Allys, I'm glad that you have been able to find this cure that works for you. But I don't think it would work for everyone. Especially people like me, that has been diagnosed to have a chemical imbalance which requires medication, to help me cope with my problems. I'm sure if it was all an emotional issue, maybe it might help some people, but what about if it is a physical problem as well as mental. I am 48 yrs. old and have suffered with depression since I was a teenager. Good Luck to you, I'm glad you found a miracle cure I wish it were that easy for everyone.
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