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Andrea11
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Joined : May 2011
Posts : 104
Posted 11/4/2011 11:12 AM (GMT 0)
Has anyone completely or partially disclosed to their employer their health problems due to fibro? What happened? Were you terminated? Were you accomodated in some way? Was your employer supportive? (I know we had discussed this previously in the context of one of you who was about
to disclose - I think it was someone who worked as an engineer or had recently finished grad school?) Thanks for any information/advice you can lend. I have been struggling to keep up lately and am very concerned about
all this.
Ang92
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Joined : Oct 2011
Posts : 12
Posted 11/4/2011 11:59 AM (GMT 0)
Hello Andrea, I have informed my supervisors of my syndrome and some associated symptoms. I am still currently working and have not been treated any differently. If health conditions exist which prohibits an employee from performing work duties, a docs profile will be placed on file if the employer agrees with the terms. In some cases an employer may not agree to the terms of an employee's limitations if the employee can no longer perform critical Job Duties, and meet the Terms and Conditions of Employment.
I am an Employee Supervisor and Trainer of Direct Care Staff. My job requires a lot of sitting, but I can also get up when desired and move freely. I have never requested time off for fibro, but have a profile in place that says health conditions prevents me from being exposed to direct sunlight for long periods of time.
I would think that employers would want to keep employees who are generally diligent with work performance and duties. Although, I am sure it would depend on the request of the employee, and the need of the employer.
I hope this helps in some way. Good Luck!
MyselfRedux
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Joined : Dec 2009
Posts : 6232
Posted 11/4/2011 12:46 PM (GMT 0)
I have not disclosed to my supervisor, nor do I plan to within the next few years. However, in my job I work mostly independently, with almost no supervision. I am a college professor, and while a few of my closest colleagues know, I am uncomfortable with the administration knowing. This university is a political enough tight-rope without my adding chronic illness into the mix.
However, I meet all my classes and meetings and office hours, I do my committees (actually more than my fair share), and direct a play every semester. If for some reason I had to miss something major, I would disclose. But I do not see that happening.
getting by
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Posted 11/4/2011 2:10 PM (GMT 0)
When I was working, they worked around my fibro. I didn't have to do any heavy lifting or go into the store cooler. I was lucky. I hope others can have that much luck. It is hard working with fibro. But if you have a sympathetic boss, it can work out. If you don't have to disclose any of that information, it is even better. I wish you luck with your job.
Best wishes,
Hugs, Karen
Izzy5
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Joined : Oct 2011
Posts : 89
Posted 11/4/2011 4:13 PM (GMT 0)
Andrea11,
Very good topic as I have met face to face with the discrimination of having told my employer who knows about
my condition. I wish I had never said a thing. I feel as though my job is in jeopardy.
crazykitty
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Joined : Jul 2009
Posts : 4796
Posted 11/4/2011 7:22 PM (GMT 0)
I no longer work either...I stopped working before my diagnosis...was just begining to become symptomatic.
The answer to tell or not to tell, for me would probably depend on my ability to function at my job. Looking at this year's calendar, I've had 28 appointments between seeing my specialists and going for various testing and have a few more before year's end. I don't know if an employer would allow that or not.
I know there is an Americans Disability Act that may help you keep a job if you think your job is in danger.
Hugs, Robin
Trinity Moon
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Joined : Nov 2011
Posts : 3
Posted 11/4/2011 8:38 PM (GMT 0)
My employer has been extremely supportive. They have assisted me in filing FMLA forms for both my Fibro and my Migraines so that should I need to stay at home for the day, it will be covered under FMLA and therefore a protected absence. My employer works with me when I am feeling good or bad. I am lucky that my employer is understanding and flexible... I have been a one person department in Purchasing for the last 3 years of my 15 years here. It's been tough on my fibro without the additional help in the department. I push myself daily to be in control of my pain, but some days are harder than others. Before I filed the FMLA forms, I would be penalized for my absences, but now I'm not. Maybe something to look into...
BunBun1982
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Joined : Jun 2011
Posts : 174
Posted 11/5/2011 1:24 AM (GMT 0)
I can't say I was as lucky as the rest of you gals/possible guys. I was forcefully terminated from my job a week before I was to get a diagnosis with possible treatment options. I believe that had they "accommodated" my illness, I would still be working happily. and perhaps part-time, in a field that I once loved:( Because they had no legal reason to do so, I have taken legal steps against them, and it's even more sad because I actually cared for these co-workers.
The worst part is my employer had very bad arthritis in his hip with disc issues too. He would make people wait for their appointments, or take extended breaks, sit whenever he could, etc. It's kind of ironic then that the employer turns on the employee instead of having a shred of humanity to sympathize. I'm deeply disappointed in him, and thousands of others like him.
Namian
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Posts : 410
Posted 11/5/2011 5:25 AM (GMT 0)
I work for a large technology company so they are covered by all the FMLA and ADA laws. I disclosed to my supervisor and she and my manager have been tremendously supportive. For myself it would all depend on how I thought my supervisor would receive the information. I already had a good rapport with my supervisor and I knew that she'd be supportive. They have both told me to let them know if there is anything they can do to help me. I am incredibly lucky. I also work a desk job and I have to get up and move a lot. I'm considering asking for a stand-up desk if they aren't too hard to switch back and forth because there are times during the day when it'd be easier to stand, but I couldn't stand for the full eight hours!
Andrea11
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Joined : May 2011
Posts : 104
Posted 11/5/2011 1:05 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for all the great feedback!
I am happy to hear that some of your employers have been supportive. I did not fully disclose but have asked to do some telecommuting so that I can rest a bit from home more once in a while, and still be productive. I told them there are health reasons, including numerous dr's appointments (which I typically am not going to because I can not keep asking off - therefore my health continues to deteriorate!) and other issues (like getting my day-to-day stuff done, which is not happening because I am slow some days and feel awful) that I need more time to deal with but it does not seem to have gone over well.
I don't know about
most of you but for the most part, I do not "appear" ill and so I think others tend to think you're sandbagging or being dramatic if you ever say anything about
your health issues. I feel like I have a huge skeleton in my closet because the fibro is an almost constant presence in my life that I hide from my employer. I am a busy professional (some of you might remember what I do) and can not afford to have my career affected by this as I am still young and very much enjoy what I do. :(
Kidz Mom
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Joined : Jan 2011
Posts : 142
Posted 11/5/2011 2:01 PM (GMT 0)
My employees know since I have good and bad days and I am their supervisor but I have been pretty lucky so far that I haven't had to take time off work. I usually work in the office alone. I don't plan on telling my supervisor until it becomes an issue. They may or may not have heard about
it "through the grapevine" but have never said anything to me as I am so far keeping up the pace and surpassing their expectations. I try to pace myself and since I'm salried I often bring home work on the weekends to keep caught up and work at a pace I can handel. I also know that I can not use any FMLA until I have worked there a year and I have been there 8 months so I'm not going to bring it up until after that unless my body forces me to. My husband is home and waiting on his dissability filing for his illness but he makes dinner every day and allowes me to rest at night and on the weekends. He is very supportive I don't know what I would do without him.
Andrea11
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Posts : 104
Posted 11/6/2011 12:07 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks, Kidz Mom. I think working in a job where you have some autonomy and are not micromanaged is a contributing factor as to whether or not you can avoid problems with your employer as a fibro patient. Like you said, there are definitely good days and bad days, or for me, it seems more like they come in chunks of weeks. This week must have been a flare as I am in horrible pain, exhausted, and in a bit of a fog.
Thanks to all for listening. :)
SadSickTired
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Joined : May 2009
Posts : 99
Posted 11/6/2011 5:51 PM (GMT 0)
Here are somethings to know:
FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) applies to any individual who works for an employer with 50 or more employees
You can apply for a leave for a set time or for an intermittent time (such as flares that are unpredictable)
Under law you must have a "serious health condition" which in most cases/states fibro fulfills- but check the law in your state
I have an ILOA (intermittent leave of absence) that I need to recertify (a doctor must fill out) that covers me up to 7 days per month if I have a flare) once every 6 month
There is also an ADA (Americans with Disability Act) that requires an employer to provide "reasonable accommodations" to employees with disabilities. Here is the rub- in order to keep your job you must be able to perform you "essential job functions" with or without a reasonable accommodations (anything that would not cause undue hardship on an employer). So if you ask for a reasonable accommodation that is considered a hardship (such as you needing another person to lift all heavy objects and you work in a warehouse) it can be turned down. And if you have stated that you can not perform essential job functions without it- they can terminate you. Here is an example of a request that is reasonable: you are a greeter at a big box store and you have a disease that makes it difficult for you to stand for hours uinterrrupted- you may ask for a stool to sit on. Its an easy fix so they must grant it.
Under the EOE/ ADA's they can not terminate you for having a disease or disability- however if you can not perform your job functions they can. That is where is gets a little dicey. So you need to find out what your job descript
ion is and make sure that you can perform what is necessary or if you can't you need to think about
what you would need to do it and if its unreasonable.
I told my bosses and for the most part they were either supportive or indifferent. Always remember: you are own advocate. They started to work with me big time when I got my ILOA and they realized that they could either make things easier for me or they would have to cover me for a week out of every month while I was down with a flare. If you don't look out for you and your health no one else will. I hope this helps!
Leeriesan
Regular Member
Joined : Oct 2008
Posts : 90
Posted 11/7/2011 6:45 PM (GMT 0)
I've told my employer before about
my fibro and I've since never told an employer even when I was sure they'd be understanding though each person has to make this decision. I wasn't fired but I was pretty much forced to quit. I was in college at the time and she told everyone I worked with (who were fellow students, about
six of them) about
my health conditions and screamed at me for missing a day of work even though she knew why. She did this in the middle of the library while we were
open and had students there. It was such a horrible experience I won't ever tell an employer again. I told HER boss what happened and then I quit - I couldn't stay there.
Yes there are laws protecting people who are sick, but not really. An employer can find a reason to fire you no matter how good an employee you are. I'm a little bitter and cynical about
all this but I don't think the law really helps people like us - in a wheelchair you can "see" and ADA helps you, but we seem fine to everyone else. This woman was horrible.
Ang92
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Joined : Oct 2011
Posts : 12
Posted 11/8/2011 12:42 AM (GMT 0)
I always recommend employees who are out frequent for health conditions to have a doc complete a medical profile to inform management that unscheduled absences may occur do to health issues. This ILOA policy helps to save employees jobs. I personally do not have a profile for ILOA, but would not hesitate to get one if I was exp DAILY overwhelming symptoms which requires me to call in sick or frequently leave work early. Many of us may live in states where "At Will" employment exist, but Employers who violate the Equal Opportunity Employment or American Disability Act can be held liable.
Andrea11
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Joined : May 2011
Posts : 104
Posted 11/8/2011 2:14 AM (GMT 0)
Been there, done that with the ADA stuff at another job and like Leerisan said, they just find another way to get rid of you by making your life a living hell in other ways to force you out or fire you.
hihonjp
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Joined : Nov 2011
Posts : 2
Posted 11/21/2011 4:58 AM (GMT 0)
I was just diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. They say I may have lupus as well however the blood work is neg. I have been at my job for fifteen plus years. I am having memory problems. My accuracy rate is 97.6% and I am scared I will be let go because of this. Problem is I back up for other people. When I am stressed and trying to do my work and the work of others is when these errors occur. I have tried to ask for help but I have been dependable for so long I don't think they take me serious when I tell them It's a problem. I just wish they would underarans just because I look good on the outside, I am in pain on the inside..
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