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Posted 10/24/2013 7:20 PM (GMT 0)
Do people sometimes feel worse when they have slept a lot? Its weird, i can go to sleep for just 5 hours and feel fatigued but not too bad, yet when im out for 7 hours straight I feel like im waking with a hangover...then this lasts throughout day. More pain, terrible fatigue and fog.
I sometimes wonder if its the meds reminding me of their lovely side effects now and again

I never sleep more than 7 / 8 hours...but its like I am sooo sleep deprived, when I do get in this good sleep my body craves more and more
Posted 10/24/2013 7:28 PM (GMT 0)
When you sleep, you don't move. When you don't move, your muscles stay in one position and stiffen up. Light movement, like keeping your body upright, walking, and even thinking, keeps things running smoothly.

People have widely varying sleep requirements. I am at 8 1/2 hours, usually, with or without meds.
Posted 10/25/2013 10:55 AM (GMT 0)
I need about 8 hours. Yesterday, I did some yard work and knew I'd be sore later. I took Flexeril before bedtime, slept off the sleepy effects of it, and feel pretty good today.
Posted 10/25/2013 11:36 AM (GMT 0)
If I sleep, what myself said happens to , myself. Also, I can feel just the pressure start to build up the pain in my bones. For example, right now I am lying on my right side and my right hip and ankle at the bones are hurting from the pressure of my body.

When I go to sleep I set my alarm for every three hours. I get up and to a quick walk, stretch, reposition. I know this is not optimal for sleep, but lesser of two evils, right? Plus I'm usually up to go to the bathroom or for something leas anyway, like right now.

Also I am also able to take my overnight meds I would have slept through and woken up painful. I think it helps a lot but you have to find your own magic mix

Lolokonoki
Posted 10/25/2013 9:04 PM (GMT 0)
I have to have 10 to 12 hours sleep to function decent. I wake up sore but I'm a restless sleeper. I'm always waking up during the night to shift positions.
Posted 10/26/2013 12:14 PM (GMT 0)
Couch tater,
I am the same way, I wake up at least three to four times a night. I started not letting myself sleep as much, but still taking it easy and I started feeling better. I would get up earlier, but only move to the couch and do some reading, just get out of bed.

Ps I love your signature, but all I can think of is me trying to throw lemons and I really do throw like a girl, my dog is embarrassed at the park.

Lolokonoki
Posted 10/28/2013 1:30 AM (GMT 0)
I think one of the core aspects of FM/CFS is the abnormal sleep structure which so many of us face.

Personally, I used to feel best with 8 to 9 hours of sleep. 10 left me feeling groggy/weird. Less than 7 irritable and exhausted. That was until this past spring.

After my monosodium glutamate "poisoning" last spring*, I've had chronic daily headache issues that come on each day and a dull ache on the skull of my head that comes and goes, and I noticed that I'm less likely to get that headache if I'm sleep deprived. I don't know why or what is going on but I suspect my brain is doing something odd during sleep which promotes the headaches whenever I am rested sufficiently.

I have two states of being it seems: sleep deprived, or headache. LOL! Hard to win with that combo! I hate the headaches more than the sleep deprivation so sometimes I welcome sleep deprivation instead. Crazy, I know.

I also studied the med Xyrem extensively online for a few months given that it helped so many FM patients with pain management and fatigue during trials and found that the FM patients who experienced headaches and brain fog found those problems went away when they took Xyrem which restored their deep NONrem stage for sleep. (which is what many FM patients lack during sleep. "alpha wave intrusion" they call it. I think this may contribute to our odd feelings upon waking even after what should have had sufficient time to sleep. At least, that appears to be my experience.)

I don't take meds though, so it could very well be a med thing.
Posted 10/28/2013 3:00 AM (GMT 0)
Ccl, have you been checked for sleep apnea?
One of the signs of it is waking up with a headache.
Posted 10/28/2013 1:15 PM (GMT 0)
I have sleep apnea. I've been using a cpap machine for about 5 years now. When I started sleeping longer during the night (and more deeply), I noticed that I had more pain in the morning. I do think its because we move less when we sleep longer. And with FMS, that means stiffer.
Posted 10/30/2013 2:00 PM (GMT 0)
Daytime sessions where I lay down on the floor for 20-30 without falling asleep are helpful.

Just put on some music or podcast and drift, sometimes I nod off, but rarely am I worse off from this.

If I go back to bed "officially" during the day it often leads to me feeling worse when I awake.
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