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Posted 6/25/2013 4:25 PM (GMT 0)
I have felt unwell for many years after a serious injury and developed many fibromyalgia symptoms. I also started to have serious back pain, muscle spasms, shoulder tightness/numbing, blood in my stool, and skin boils that seem to show up wherever I was experiencing muscle tension.

The boils seem to be somewhat symmetrical and where located in the exact areas that are in a standard pressure point chart....or fibro sensitive spots. I would always wake up feeling more tied than when I went to sleep and during times of great physical stress(I am a stone mason)I would notice the boils would swell and I would pass blood in my stool.

I saw a number doctors who all said there was no connection between any of my issues....leave the boils alone...apply some cream....cut off the hemorrhoids...take some meds....the one dermatologist even thought I was a "coke head"(they grind there teeth a lot)

I kept saying that everything was somehow tied together and started to experiment with massaging around the boil areas....ya just what they tell you not to do....

So after picking a boil on my shoulder to test I massaged and pulled the boil away from the muscle....I started to get these crazy pops out of the back of head.....the boil got worse but then the muscle started to relax and the boil got better....and now I have full range of motion in my arm again.

Then one day I got my teeth worked on for the first time in 10 years...they told me I have a serious teeth grinding problem....they filled 7 holes on one side of mouth and my teeth where very sensitive for a month. I could not grind if I wanted to. I got the other side worked on....very sensitive also.....I went about three months without grinding...I started to feel amazingly better.....

It has been a year now since this happened....the boils got seriously bad at one point...and the popping was intense...like a pop corn machine...loud...but knew it was not bone making the noise...so I kept it up. the popping moved all over my head....down into my nose. I have done extensive research on the elastic connective tissue and everything has come to light as to what I believe happens.

I am turning 40 this year and I have not felt this good for 15yrs.....I dont pass blood in my stool....My arm numbness (TOS syndrome)is just about gone.....everything is better.

Has anyone else had similar symptoms.

Something to think about....how dose facial gesture effect posture...and mood.....

If the jaw muscle is the strongest muscle in your body wouldn't you think it would have a profound role in driving the rest your body....its just a general rule nature....the strongest dominate.
Posted 6/25/2013 4:38 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, Stoneforest, and welcome!  Well, I've never heard a story like this before!  We don't get boils like that.  We do grind our teeth though and I'm glad you have gotten that under control plus what else was happening.  I really don't think that was fibro.

 

Have you changed your job or area you worked.  Perhaps you were allergic to something and that caused the boils.  That really is confusing to me. 

 

Blood in the stool is something else that isn't caused by fibro.  Fibromyalgia affects the muscles, tendons, and ligaments and doctors think now it's a neurological problem in how we perceive pain.  If you get blood in  your stool again, it could be from the hemorrhoids...especially if the color is red.  That means the blood is close to the exit area.  If your stool is black, you are bleeding further up in the intestines.  THEN you would need to see a gastroenterologist. 

 

I'm so glad you are doing much better.  You have really been through a nightmare, haven't you! 

 

Be sure to read Fibro 101...the first thread on the forum.  There are links to good info about fibro and you will learn a lot there.  Good starting links are called Symptoms, What Else Could It Be, and A Thorough Explanation of Fibromyalgia.  All of Fibro 101 is good so do read it.

 

I'm looking forward to getting to know you better.  Don't hesitate to ask questions because we are here to help you.  I hope to hear more from you soon.

 

Sherrine

Posted 6/25/2013 5:57 PM (GMT 0)
I have read that and been to a number of doctors who all said I have fibro.....they said take flexural...

I went to see the but doctor....had hemorrhoids and they removed them....but they kept bleeding...even worse

I went to the joint doctor cause they thought I had arthritis.....I did not.

I was in constant pain...waking up in pain with no energy....I was grinding my teeth 24/7...even at work lifting stone.

I went to two dermatologist.

"Fibromyalgia affects the muscles, tendons, and ligaments and doctors think now it's a neurological problem in how we perceive pain."

This all fit under "connective tissue" ....everything in our body is "connected".....

Reticular Fibres - liver, reticulin

Elastic Fibres - artery, elastin & eosin

Connective Tissue Cells

Macrophages - liver, carbon injected, trichrome

Mast Cells - tongue, toluidine blue

Dense Regular Connective Tissue - tendon, van Gieson

Dense Irregular Connective Tissue - non-lactating breast, H&E

Adipose Tissue - kidney, trichrome and thick skin, H&E

Mesenchymal Connective Tissue - umbilical cord, H&E
Posted 6/25/2013 6:37 PM (GMT 0)
When we have trauma....we show it in our face.....and it effects the way our whole body exist....your face is a complex network of elastic connective tissue that is linked to every muscle in your body. It is the other half of your reflex. First is your nerve telling your body to react but second is your elastic connective tissue engaging to support the anticipated muscle movement.

try to make a smile and not feel a little happy....
try to frown and not feel a little sad....
try to clench your teeth and not feel a little angry...
try to gasp and not feel surprised

try to smile and not stick out your chest
try to frown and not slouch your shoulders
try to clench your teeth and not lean forward
try to gasp and not fall back

whatever expression you hold the most determines where your body is going to live....and feel...

before we had verbal communication everything was expressed through our facial expressions and body language and to drove our emotions and physical readiness.....

try to look at someone smiling and not feel a little happy
try to look at someone frown and not feel a little sad
try to look at someone mad and not feel a little angry
try to look at someone gasp and not feel a little exciteds

For someone who experienced a lot pain either physically or emotionally they express that pain in there face and body......we carry it around until it is slowly released in our dreams.

I should have never been exposed to that much pain in the natural world.......I would be dead.
Posted 6/25/2013 6:41 PM (GMT 0)
Just because something is a connective tissue disorder doesn't mean it literally affects all those tissues. I have a rare connective tissue disorder and it affects muscles, tendons, ligaments, kidneys, eyes, and a few other smaller areas. I don't get boils, hemorrhoids, of a lot of the issues you named. I do get glaucoma, kidney failure, and arthritis. I do believe you may have more than one issue. My major connective tissue problem was hard to diagnose and is still widely unrecognized.

I'd ask your dr to be more aggressive. More testing could be helpful. Maybe request a referral to a genetic department, that's how I found mine. I'm not saying you don't have those problems just that they aren't regular fibro symptoms. I do hope you can find relief
Posted 6/25/2013 6:56 PM (GMT 0)
Who knows if its fibro or not...after all fibro is just a word for something we really don't understand....unexplained pain. I had over 40 of the fibro symptoms so thats what they called it. Everything is much better now.

I have just made a connection between them all cause they are all getting better at the same rate. I had tons of blood work done.....multiple mri's and sonographs of swollen glands....nothing got better till I stopped grinding my teeth.
Posted 6/25/2013 8:01 PM (GMT 0)
Hello SF :) First off, I'm glad your doing better, no matter what you had going on. Sounded pretty bad !

Now, everybody here knows that people with Fibro, often have other overlapping health issues. If you and / or your Dr's think you have Fibro, you probably do. But you also probably had other stuff going on as well.

Anyway, I've had Fibromyalgia and IBS for 27 years, but after a major change in health and fitness, I've knocked down my symptoms by 95%..... and I still grind my teeth. Darnit.... just back from the dentist, telling me I cracked another filling :(

Continued improvement to you :)

Fish

Posted 6/25/2013 8:35 PM (GMT 0)
I did have many other issues that came on after my lower back surgery...an epidural abscess was removed in an emergency situation.....I had a pick line with max penicillin for 3 months...spent the first month sitting in a hotel room chair staring at the ground grinding my teeth and punching the wall cause the muscle spasm where so intense...and starting the bloody stools with all pain killers...constipation....cardboard food...developed an allergy to the penicillin.

What i did not realize through the whole thing is that the grinding....and the pain...became "norm". I was grinding my teeth all day at work and then going home and grinding all night. When you clench your teeth you can feel tendons pull up throughout your shoulders and chest. If you are constantly flexing your jaw muscles the connective tissue will slowly grow into the new flexed norm.
Posted 6/26/2013 1:12 AM (GMT 0)
Strong painkillers can cause damage to your digestive system if you've been on them for a long period of time - that could have caused the bleeding.

Many people with fibromyalgia have other health conditions too. You probably have fibro and a few other things as well. Write a list of all your non-fibro or atypical fibro symptoms and take it to the doctor - ask why you're getting those symptoms if your only problem is fibromyalgia.

An epidural abscess could explain the boils. Of course, the abscess was probably brought on by the back surgery. Surgeries have been known to trigger fibromyalgia.
Posted 6/26/2013 2:41 PM (GMT 0)
Stone...this is very interesting as I recently read about TMJ symptoms and asked my denstist about them and he concurred that TMJ can indeed cause TOS-like symptoms. TOS affects you're arms and chest and causes tightness and hand numbness.

However, I will point out that in the cases of car accidents its usually the upper cervical bone (the Atlas) that goes out real bad and that is probably what misaligns your jaw causing the grinding. Which makes me wonder about finally getting that fixed. My upper cervical chiropractor says that 100% of his patients with Fibro have a pretty bad atlas sublugxation. The problem I've noticed with this treatment, however, is that once you've had it for a long time, its very hard to hold the Atlas adjustment. A friend of mine had to do it 2-3x a week for an entire year to get it to hold! That's rather expensive and there are no guarantees...since just riding a rollercoaster will knock it out again!

Never heard about boils as a symptom, though...but like you said its all connected.

As the song goes... "One thing leads to another.."
Posted 6/26/2013 2:50 PM (GMT 0)
BTW- I can do all those facial expressions you mentioned and not do the other and I had no problems whatsoever. The only one that I found to be true is that I do feel a little happier if I'm smiling. But overall, I think a strong mind can easily control what you do or not do if you are consciously attempting it.

Interesting about the smiling = instant happiness though
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