Beware The Diagnosis

Having been in the medical field here is something you want to be alert to.

When you see a doctor they have to code a diagnosis "I don't know wont fly" Since fibo is not a decisive known disorder they may "Guess" at some condition that partially fits.

This can start a situation called "Patient Expectancy" or that our minds are so powerful that simply thinking we have a condition can create the symptoms.

Example: when treating a person with multiple personalities I witnessed one personality with diabetes - the other did not have it. One had allergies the others didn't. One had crippling back pain and the others didn't.

Voodoo relies on the power of the believer to cause death.

Fibro is a dysfunction of the central nervous system and as such it can mimic and alter function of every cell in the body.

There is an old adage in medicine: "What condition you believe you have you get to keep."

Worse that all the pseudo diagnoses that can come with you have fibro is if the medical community gives you drugs based on these faulty diagnoses.

All the common fibro drugs alter the very part of the brain that causes fibro...and not in a positive way.

Even drugs not for fibro can make it worse. All allopathic drugs are considered by the body to be poison ...even high doses of vitamins and supplements.

These always trigger the bodies alerting response which further causes the HPA axis to over activate creating more fibro symptoms and stopping recovery.

We are all searching in a land with no road maps. Please be careful not to take on the additional stress of pseudo conditions while looking for answers.

Ask any pharmacist - all allopathic drugs are considered toxins to the body and produce a stress response.

All Drugs are Toxic
Joel Fuhrman, M.D.


In the first pharmacology lecture that I head in medical school, the physician impressed on us that all drugs are toxic and we should never forget this.

Never said I was a fibro expert or I would have healed myself...wait I did once. I had severe fibro 22 years ago and totally recovered - I could even do extreme sports and do hard labor with no problems.

I was almost bed ridden for 7 years until I recovered

Then 4 years ago I got a terminal medical diagnosis and the fear and stress put me back into severe fibro again. The diagnosis was 100% wrong and I am still alive.

I have found the magic switch again - I know for me drugs kept me sick so I wont go there again.

My point is that the nervous system can mimic over 150 conditions and if your doctor is not extremely unique he will misdiagnose you and then even more hell starts.

Andre,

Nice to meet you. I agree that we have to be very careful, and hyper-alert to what drugs are doing to our bodies. I recently asked to be weaned off a 2nd antidepressant because I've had some really unpleasant symptoms that began (or at least got way worse) around the time I started it.

But Fibro can be diagnosed as a decisive disorder. My present doctor told me he thought I had it 25 years ago, first time I went to him (I had never heard of it.) He also told me, and has several times since, that he didn't think I was depressed.

Debbie

Remember...what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another and the reverse is true also. Some members have good success on antidepressants.

I always suggest to try some supplements and gentle exercises, trigger point therapy, gentle massages...just some alternative things to see if you get relief that way before starting medications. This is how I mostly handle my Fibro except I take a muscle relaxer...yep, a pharmaceutical drug...and that made a significant difference in my pain.

Medication isn't all "black or white". I have had medications that have saved my life and I also have had bad reactions to medications. If I'm on a medication and I feel worse, my body is telling me something. We HAVE to listen to our bodies. Right now I'm going with gut feelings, too, because I believe they are from God. I have refused two different medications for two different illnesses and my doctors aren't happy but will listen to me anyway.

Sherrine

Correct me if I am wrong,but isn't Dr. Fuhrman primarily known as a nutritionist, advocating for healthy diets? I have one of his books, "Eat to Live." It's pretty good.

All I was trying to say is that in trying to convince people of your original stance, the problems of chasing after ghost conditions in the search of an answer, by condemning a form of treatment, pharmaceuticals, is a rhetorical fallacy. "Hasty generalization" or even "Begging the question" fit here, making the argument about a connection between evidence that is either not closely related to argument or that it is known fact, rather than debatable. Ultimately, the dangers/benefits of pharmaceuticals are not 'proof' of a issue with ghost conditions for people with long-term chronic illnesses.

I would add further that trashing someone else's treatment of choice isn't an good use of logic. It lessens your credibility, and as someone who purports to be attached to the medical field, you should understand this. Jes' sayin'.

Post Edited (Myself 09) : 8/30/2015 9:03:15 AM (GMT-6)

It's kinda like this--I am a huge proponent of using exercise to help treat fibro. I am not sporty. I did not exercise pre-fibro. I spent all my time in rehearsal rooms, dark theatres or libraries. No walks, bicycle riding, organized sports, nuttin'.

When diagnosed, my rheumie prescribed water-aerobics. Time passed, several years of it, and finally with both time and money on my hands, I joined the YMCA and took a class. I never looked back. Now, exercise is the primary go-to of my treatment plan. I wave my poms-poms here about the benefits that even 5 minutes a day will bring to both pain and energy deficit.

We all like to beat our own drum with our own preconceptions about how life works. Being human, we also believe that the way everyone else perceives the world is exactly the same. And I am seriously guilty of wearing this type of blinkers occasionally, and creating an over-simplification of a complex issue.

However, people are in different places, with different physiologies and conditions and backgrounds and lifestyle. Different interests and different beliefs and very different issues that elicite a strong emotional reaction all impact the way we process information. I realize that my use of exercise is made possible by my location, age, education, lifestyle, my overall health, my family and job choices, etc. It does no good for me to assume that everyone has made my choices and lives my life. All I can do is put forward what works for me, and take pleasure when someone else finds a treatment plan that works for them.

I believe we have mentioned all of this to you before, and gotten the same debate of medical fact versus treatment regimens. Madness is doing the same thing, but expecting a different outcome.

I wish you luck in managing your condition.

On Edit: Much as I might tout exercise, a physical therapist will echo my sentiments. A dietician will point out diet strategies. An herbalist will show you natural remedies. A doctor will prescribe medicine; relaxation is assigned by a massage therapist. You get my point. One is not inherently better than the others, but we ALL have an affection for the one that replicates and endorses our world view.

The problem comes when some insist their worldview is far superior to others, and, in fact, the choices of others are wrong.

Post Edited (Myself 09) : 8/31/2015 7:41:05 AM (GMT-6)