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Bevys
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Posted 6/14/2016 5:14 PM (GMT 0)
Just curious and a bit worried. Was having pain in right upper quadrant and had a full blood work up and everything is in normal range.
Does that rule out cirrhosis?
ppm guy
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Posted 6/14/2016 11:49 PM (GMT 0)
hi bevys,
yes it does. the CMP will list all your liver function tests.
Good luck in your search for answers.
Bevys
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Posted 6/15/2016 12:54 AM (GMT 0)
Was reading some posts today and saw where a few people reversed their numbers...was one of those people you? :)
ppm guy
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Posted 6/15/2016 3:47 PM (GMT 0)
hi bevys,
yes!!
removing the source of inflamation is the key.. by stopping drinking, curing your hep b or c, healthy diet w/exercise, and a mind set to live healthy. then your liver can heal.. one of the livers job is to regenerate itself.
in my case, my dr started hcc surveillance with ultrasound when portal vein became fibrous. in 2012 i cured my hep c, and a year later my ultrasounds got better. so i asked for a fibroscan.
It showed that my liver had reversed the fibrosis.
if your liver starts to harden(shrink), those areas will remain scarred.
Bevys
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Posted 6/16/2016 8:50 PM (GMT 0)
I wish I had started here at healing well first but I started my story on another forum site http://patient.info/forums/discuss/are-blood-tests-mostly-right-to-rule-out--517942 and it has brought me down a bit...more like a lot actually. Hope it's ok that I mentioned your story in brief anonymously because it gives others hope.
This subject weighs on my mind daily. I have a cat scan on Monday and Am fearing the outcome. The docs keep telling me my liver and pancreas numbers are fine, but does the blood test alert
them to both a fatty liver and fibrosis? How did they find yours?Did you have fatty liver disease and did it progress to the fibrosis? Are there treatments for both diseases? Fear(unfounded?)is a powerful thing for me.
ppm guy
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Posted 6/17/2016 12:19 AM (GMT 0)
Hi bevys,
Blood work that is out of range for liver enzymes or function will lead to hep panels and a ultrasound. This can reveal viral hepatitis, or liver fibrosis. A ct scan will give you more detail. If your scan reveals fatty liver, it can be reversed.
Your doctors team should walk you thru the program for fatty liver.
The treatment is life style changes. No drinking, and a healthy diet, and weight loss(if necessary) usually succeed.
let us know how your scan comes out
ppm guy
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Posted 6/17/2016 12:27 AM (GMT 0)
By the way, I had hep c and drank like a fish. I got hep c in the 60s and didn't know it till 1992. So I quit drinking, and got healthy. By 2006 I had cirrhosis and had to treat hep c. I finally knocked it out in 2012. The rest is in my other post.
Bevys
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Posted 6/17/2016 1:38 AM (GMT 0)
Hi ppm guy,
Thank you for sharing your story with me and appreciate all the information and inspiration you have given me. I'm amazed at your
story and saw where you took something called Inferon? Is that something specifically for hep c or cirrhosis treatment? Is it a standard in treatment? Also, was there anything else you did such as eating healthy...I.e. fish, chicken (no red meat), broccoli, spinach,, bananas, blue berries, fresh organic or canned(or not)
Supplements? Juice? Also, I noticed that exercise keeps being mentioned and wonder if it helps to regenerate cells?
ppm guy
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Posted 6/17/2016 5:26 PM (GMT 0)
Hi
I hope no one ever has to take interferon again. You know how you feel when you get the flu. Fever and headache, muscle aches !! Tha is your immune system making interferon. It is your bodies natural anti viral. Then scientists reproduce it into a injection. It only works for viral hep..
I have been thru a lot.. But many people here make my suffering pale in comparison.
There are different diet protocols for viral hep, compared to fatty liver.
joey25
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Posted 7/2/2016 3:07 PM (GMT 0)
@ ppm guy I'm a bit confused. When you say you 'got healthy,' do you mean your blood tests were normal? Can you have normal blood tests and have cirrhosis? Or did the cirrhosis come on suddenly?
ppm guy
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Posted 7/2/2016 4:23 PM (GMT 0)
go to your new post
Bevys
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Posted 7/2/2016 6:45 PM (GMT 0)
Also @ ppm guy. Do you know if a ct scan findings(without contrast)
with the findings as "unremarkable" for the liver means "no cirrhosis"?
ppm guy
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Posted 7/3/2016 12:42 AM (GMT 0)
hi Bevys,
I would say yes..but i dont think a dr would order a ct to check for cirrhosis. my dr ordered a CT scan for me last month to get greater detail, because of a suspicious ultrasound. it doesnt confirm cirrhosis.
ultrasounds and CTs show surface textures, size and shape. radiologists can identify abnormalaties such as masses, cysts, calcifications, ductal dilations, etc
can i ask why you suspect liver damage? how long have you been using naproxen?
Bevys
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Posted 7/3/2016 1:04 AM (GMT 0)
I used to have an occassional 3-6 beers through the week/weekend.
Then in 2014-2015 I upped that to include 2-3 days of the week and drank on the 3 day weekend I had(6-9)on each those days.
In Nov 2015 I took Ill with respiratory system issues (pleurisy they think) and laid off of any beer totally, then in Jan & Feb had a couple weekend beer binges (3-6) and one night had 1/2 bottle red wine and it made my arms itch...scared the crap out me, due to my fears that I compromised my liver. Since that time, I may have had a total of 6 beers in the following 3 months (no itching with beer just wine). Then during Memorial Day weekend, I splurged with greasy wings and 2 beers, that evening I started experiencing some discomfort at my sternum and a little to the right, sometimes the pain would go into my back. So, I went to my doctor and she said my GERD was acting up and told me to go back on my Omeprasile for a month. I told her about
my past drinking and that it concerned me. I had a CBC and Comp Panel done and my Alt, Ast, Bilirubin etc. came out fine and the doctor said I didn't have what I expected, which was Cirrhosis By the blood test results. She sent me for a ct scan which revealed a small amount of air and turns out that I had a perforated ulcer that they think sealed itself back off.
I've been on Naproxen off and on for two years, took it up to 3 times a week, but went off it and went on a daily aspirin, which they think caused the ulcer to begin with. Been on antibiotics twice a day for two weeks now and Prilosec 2x a day. The ongoing pain has greatly diminished.I just have a hard time believing all those pains can come from an ulcer or two.
ppm guy
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Posted 7/3/2016 2:48 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for sharing Bevys.
Quite often, URQ can be G.I. related. Your history of ulcers, and use of anti inflamatories, seem counter productive. I would mention that to my doctor. I would also ask my PCP for a consultation with a pain medicine specialist, to find better pain relief. I also suffer greatly from severe stenosis of the cervical and lumbar spine. I had 4 posterior vertebrae removed and fused with rods and screws in march. Doing better now.
your liver seems to be handling everything well.
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