why does drinking bother lyme?

hello....i know that when you have lyme your not supposed to drink but i did on exmas eve and on christmass and i did last night on new years...before my boyfriend came to pick me up had a glass of wine and then a rum and coke then i was in the bathroom doing number 2....b4 i had found out i had lyme this would happen alot, so when i got to his house i had 2 more cokes and rum and then right b4 midnight I blacked out and got sick threw up and then i was throwing up black stuff then i blacked out again and cried for almost 2 hrs about having lyme to my boyfriend...i felt so bad that i had to have him deal with me like that...then i remember b4 we went to bed i kept telling him i love you (we havnt told eachother yet) and he said no you dont and i kept asking him if he loved me and i was getting more upset and forcing him to tell me but then he said yes i love you and then i said no you dont and then i think i passed out....since i got lyme i dont do much drinking anymore but the last 2 times i have cried really hard after i had gotten sick....about 3 weeks ago i had some martinis and got sick then cried my eyes out....

has anymone had this expirence and my hang over was horriblethis time, i was very dizzy and distorted all day and forgetful and in the bathroom and nauces...this was my first bad hang over with lyme....is it the sugar thats bad for you thats on the alchole? why is it so bad for lyme?

thanks

Lyme explodes on sugar, and alcohol is a form of sugar.  Some LLMD's will not bother to try to treat you if you consume alcohol.  You shouldn't be having the coke either or candy, sugar, white flour or any food high in carbs like corn, bananas and potatoes.  It is a tuff diet to follow and we all fall off now and then - but drinking is a big no no you can't afford to ignore.  I made the mistake of allowing myself honey as a replacement for sugar and I was going over board on it. I found myself out of remission, plummiting into more and more symptoms - now back on abx.  You just don't get "well" with lyme.  You have to be diligent and when you are feeling completely out of it emotionally and mentally, it is very hard to stay on course. 

If your boyfriend really cares about you he will not expose you to situations where there is alcohol.  You need to love yourself first before you have that love to give to anyone else and that requires taking care of yourself.  It is not anyone else responsibility but they should care and not put you in harms way.

Post Edited (nefferdun) : 1/2/2009 7:19:06 AM (GMT-7)

hello....I did notice that when i was drinking that i was feeling better...I know i have to be stronger and not drink at all. My 30th birthday is monday and i am celebrating it tonight....i told all my friends that i cant drink and they were like not even just one .... I would live to just have one but i dont wanna be sick like i was on new years.

My boyfriend doesnt understand much about lyme and when he drinks i usually dont and i never explained to him really why i cant drink but now that i know it harms the liver more with lyme from the toxins i will explain that to him.

I know I need to start to take better care of myself lattly.....i just wanted to be normal for once you know....I am a addicted to sugar and i used to have to have candy bar almostevery day and i dont at all anymore...its so hard to stay away from sugar.

My dad wanted me to get my liver checked out cause i had a hyperclacemai attack.....does that have to do with anything with my liver?

thank you

NO Alcohol!!!!

I know it is hard b/c i am 35 and I used to party all the time with my friends but if you want to get well you have to knock the alcohol off! Not even for special occasions! First of all is cancels out all of your antibiotics and secondly you should never drink on Celexa!!! It is hard to not drink I totallly understand! Sometimes you have to pass on those outings. I have learned to say no b/c personally giving it up now and getting better is way more improtant to me than getting a buzz on and then throwing nyself backwards! It is not worth it!!! It is really tough at our age but you have the rest of your life.

 Your main goal should be to get well now so you can enjoy a party later!!!! You will be healthy in the future you just have to stay on the straight and narrow now! A little secrifice won't hurt! The forum is here for you also to help you with that!!!!

Best of luck and stay tough!!!!!

Onmyway

OMG!! I know!!! My body goes CRAZY after drinking even in very small amounts with Lyme (1/2 a beer) The next day I get crazy muscle twitching and a very exaggerated hangover. Before I had Lyme I could drink heavily (if I wanted to) with no problems whatsoever not even a hangover the next day. I think if we knew exactly why we flare up so intensely then we would be closer to a more effective treatment. I asked many dr's and they tell me they have no idea why I would experience this. It's so good to be able to finally relate!! If I would have to guess from my research over the past couple years I would say its because your liver is already compromised and overworked from Lyme OR the alcohol/sugar makes the Lyme spiroceet go crazy. I am pretty confident it is one of the two!

I would also like to get more review of this issue.

Post Edited (SickInCT) : 1/4/2009 6:00:37 AM (GMT-7)

nefferdun said...
Lyme explodes on sugar, and alcohol is a form of sugar. Some LLMD's will not bother to try to treat you if you consume alcohol. You shouldn't be having the coke either or candy, sugar, white flour or any food high in carbs like corn, bananas and potatoes. It is a tuff diet to follow and we all fall off now and then - but drinking is a big no no you can't afford to ignore. I made the mistake of allowing myself honey as a replacement for sugar and I was going over board on it. I found myself out of remission, plummiting into more and more symptoms - now back on abx. You just don't get "well" with lyme. You have to be diligent and when you are feeling completely out of it emotionally and mentally, it is very hard to stay on course.


If your boyfriend really cares about you he will not expose you to situations where there is alcohol. You need to love yourself first before you have that love to give to anyone else and that requires taking care of yourself. It is not anyone else responsibility but they should care and not put you in harms way.

I don't agree that bananas should be included with corn and potatoes, since the fruit is a high glycemic index carb and the other two low. Our bodies need glucose, and I don't think it's advisable to avoid low glycemic index carbohydrates like corn, potatoes, long-grain brown rice, oats, etc. High GI carbs break down into simple sugars very rapidly, and low GI carbs make that change far more slowly.

There are very knowledgeable Lyme researchers and theorists like Deitrich Klinghardt who disagree with the blanket advice to avoid all carbs. For some of us, given our condition and/or co-infections, a "raw diet" might be clinically appropriate, but I think it's a bad idea to think we should all avoid all carbs.

"is it the sugar thats bad for you thats on the alchole? why is it so bad for lyme?"

First off, alcohol weakens the immune system.  Do a general search for alcohol and the immune system and you should get a bunch of hits. 

"but why do ew get so many toxins in our body from one lil tick?"

That one little tick can fill your body with damaging bacterial invaders which can evade your immune system.  Co-infections only complicate matters.  Once those bacteria can set up shop, they can unload some of their own toxins, but, more importantly, they can weaken the immune system to the point that opportunisitic infections can occur.  Normally, a healthy immune system should be able to fight off a candida infection.  But, a compromised indiviudal is susceptible to these pathogens, which may already be present in their system.  Once they build up, they release harmful toxins which only add to the damage.

The alcohol only contributes to weakening your immune system, which lets all the opportunistic buggers run wild.  You could even say they are having a party of their own.

In short, you need to strengthen your immune system as much as possible, which means laying off alcohol.  Another thing to consider is a food allergy test.  Imagine if you were to discover that you were allergic to a particular food, and you consumed that food on a daily basis.  Your already weakened immune system now has to deal with this allergy, which takes away from fighting off the toxins/bacterial invaders/opportunistic infections.  In order to give your body the best possible chance of recovering, you have to understand what you are up against.

I stopped drinking when it became unfun.  Between the hangover after one drink and the mental confusion from drinking (on top of the mental confusion from Lyme) drinking lost its luster.  It got to the point where I couldn't drive safely even after one drink.

To this date I have not had a sip of alcohol in 9 years and haven't missed it a bit. 

 

jeanie
yeah sorry for the bad news. but if you read the effects of lyme girl it is on the long list. I know at your young age you will keep trying to find out what you can get away with...lol
martini is out of the question girl. i too tried over and over to see how much i could at least try to have some fun. and yes, hugging the john and passing out, and then the throwing up for 3 days afterwards and the wors migraine for 4 days from two glasses of red wine.
well you will also notice that this new sensitivity you feel will also have to do with drugs. pills and things that your dr.s will give you. very small amounts and servings will have a big impact on you. so be careful. the silver lining. think of the weight you will lose from the booze. and you will look much better and in the long run you will look alot better. I found that I am able to drink a light beer or two. without dying and no side effects. no, i never liked beer before. but i found that if i really dressed it up, lime, salt around the rim. etc. or even a single glass of while wine. but get a side of ice and a side of club soda. and make that one glass of wine last a while by duluting it. just tell people that you cannot have more to drink or you will puck on them...lol.....:>)

I want to suggest something that has helped me tremendously with my Lyme Disease. It is a PEMF device, and it has given my my life back. If you would like more information, you can email me at [email protected]. I wish everyone a speedy recovery.

Susan

Hmmm, not sure what brought up this old thread but its funny, I cheated Saturday night and had a few drinks.

I know it was a huge risk but for whatever reason I was fine yesterday, and I'm fine today! I wonder if since Lyme has "cycles", if there are sometimes alcohol (in moderation of course), is easier on us than other times? Not condoning it...just sharing personal experiences here. There have been other times where just half a glass of wine has made me feel miserable. So for the most part I've given it up, but I'm human and I slipped a little over the weekend. But I got lucky, felt/feel fine, had a blast and have no regrets! :)

Susan would you care to tell a bit more about the PEMF device? Thank you!

I haven't been drinking for about 8 years now. I don't need to: I get the bad hangover feeling for free, no alcohol involved!!   

I'm just thinking about this: Lyme puts a lot of pressure on our liver - alcohol does the same thing - put them both together...

I don't get it. I can drink with no problem as long as I don't overdo it.