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Posted 3/2/2009 2:57 AM (GMT 0)
Am taking artesunate, acillin, and HH capsules from Zhang. According to LSA and other energy testing of organs, I have 2 babesia and bartonellosis. I have not consulted with Zhang but will try to one day this week. Life is torture.

Head feels like it's going to explode, have brain fog, body burns, mouth burns. GI is pretty upset. Insomnia has been present and pretty bad.

Anyone else have similar type experience?
Posted 3/2/2009 3:06 AM (GMT 0)

Hi bigdreams87, welcome o the board!

How long have you been sick, and how long have you been on this protocol?  Have you been tested for co-infections?

I am not familiar with Zhang's protocol, but I believe others who have been on it have experienced herxing.  You may need to ease up a bit and then resume what you are doing.  I think it is a good idea to speak with him.

During treatment, it is good to document your symptoms daily.  One way to do this is to list the main symptoms you have each day with a numerical rating of their severity from 1-10. Over time when you review this information, you can see when your herxes occur and how you are responding to the meds.

I hope you feel better soon.

Posted 3/2/2009 3:18 AM (GMT 0)
My Dr. does not believe one single thing I say and blames it all on stress. I am not even able to function and go to work.

I have not been blood tested, but blood tests can be inconclusive anyways. Is there a way I can pay out of pocket for tests? if so, where do I send?

I have felt really bad like this for a little over a week, the worst the past 3 days. Today has been horrible.

I feel like something else may be wrong with me.
Posted 3/2/2009 12:53 PM (GMT 0)

Hi bigdreams87.  I am sorry you are feeling so bad.  It is terrible that your doctor is so uncaring.  Remember, it is his/her job to help you, and you are paying for it.  I highly recommend seeing another doctor.  If you need a recommendation for one who is Lyme knowledgeable, let us know.

IgeneX Lab in Palo Alto, CA www.igenex.com is one lab that many Lyme doctors use for testing.  They can test for Lyme and the co-infections Babesiosis, both types of Ehrlichiosis (HME & HGE), and Bartonella.  Some doctors use MDL in NJ to test for Mycoplasma.  Many people who have Lyme are co-infected, and it can affect treatment choice and progress.  IgeneX can you send you a kit for the testing, and you can take it to a doctor who is willing to draw the blood and send it back.

Hang in there okay?  Good help is available, and you are not alone.

Posted 3/3/2009 12:50 AM (GMT 0)
I had terrible headaches for months and found a miraculous cure from a homeopath who used constitutional high potency treatment with Nux Vomica 1 LM or Q dosing (from Gudjon's pharmacy in Germany). This pharmacy is on the web and perhaps they can tell you what homeopaths are in your area using them. I am in Boston area. These potencies are needed to deal with such deep rooted infections. Also Dr Chang has a herb for headache. Until my headaches improved I had zero quality of life. I am doing very well now though still under treatment.....good luck
Posted 3/3/2009 12:51 AM (GMT 0)
ooops sorry I see yoiu got the headaches on Zhang's herbs-- I was told if that happens to reduce dose, the die off can be severe with the herbs....
Posted 3/3/2009 1:00 AM (GMT 0)
Zhang uses Puerarin capsules for headaches. 2 capsules 3x/day before meals- I haven't used them but that is in his protocol.
Posted 3/3/2009 1:02 AM (GMT 0)
For insomnia Zhang uses Hersom 2 at bedtime. My LLMD said that her patients have had xevere herx wsith the herbs and had to use very low doses, 1/4 capsules and slowly work up- good luck
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