Urine test by Igenex

The cdc send them 5 normal urine samples from people who do not have Lyme, and 2 came back postive, and all the numbers ranged from 400-4000, when they should have been normal.

If your not cdc positive I would be very carefull

Yes, I did have blood test at Igenex.  The first time my IgM was equivocal and my IGG was positive.  Three years later I tested again, IgM positive and IGG positive. I've never tested CDC positive.  My LabCorp ELISA was also positive at 1.47, Western blot only had 1 band.  Three year later my ELISA was positive again at 1.40, this time  Qwest, Western blot had  2 bands this time.

The urine test was changed after I had it done.  Now, a positive test is followed by a reverse Western blot.  I liked the urine test because it's looking for killed bacteria.  What could be more reliable then finding the killed bacteria?  One drawback would be that people don't shed antigens everyday so it not that easy to test positive.  The antibiotics I took when I tested, killed Lyme which I shed in my urine and increased chances for positive results.

I also had positive MRI's and SPECT scans done at  Columbia Presbyterian Hospital.

Post Edited (dom) : 7/9/2010 5:11:38 AM (GMT-6)

Dom: If you test positive with the blood test by Igenex, what would be the reason for doing the urine test. I guess I am trying to figure out if the urine would show anything where the blood test was negative.

Bucci: Thanks for the offer of your doc, but I am doing this on my own, have  no LLMD here.

KPT: Same here, my 41 had like four + and then many other bands were IND. Its such a puzzle.

Thank you everyone for your help, I will call Igenex.

Dom, a LOT of people will likely test lyme positive, and yes are fighting it well.  The jury is out though, because many folks are getting sick NOT after RE-infection, but after some form of trauma.  So a 4 yr old body could be fighting it well (keeping the load low, encysting, etc), but after his 5yr old immunization day comes, can suddenly develop 'autism', or 'ticking', and all these sensitivities, aka lyme.  Or a 40 yr old can get 30 days of treatment and be ok.  Then she gets a bout of salmonella and wham!  she is suddenly not getting better, getting lyme symptoms she never had.  Or a 20 year old had lyme when he was 8, and gets into a car crash while in college and suddenly starts seizing.  Then comes a stiff neck, then achy joints, etc. 

These are all real examples.  I have a million more. 

There is a chance some of them had been re-infected, but the times of the events above lines up perfectly (i.e. the very night of the immunizations).  Also, they didn't see or feel (a bump) or a tickbite, had no rash, weren't outside, etc.

Someone else asked if there was a website for these docs.  There is one I know of, it is MMI (Microbes in Mental Illness).  A lot of them seem to be on there. 

A lot of them also belong to ILADS and ACAM (Integrative Medical Organization), so they communicate through these and lyme conferences.  I agree though, it would be such a blessing if more of them agreed on things!  So much controversy within controversy!

Tracy