The Lyme is Gone!!!!!!!!

Post Edited (Pattycakes7567) : 7/14/2012 12:42:22 AM (GMT-6)

Hi Patty,

Welcome and thanks for sharing your treatment protocol with us!  You detoxed, changed your diet, took supplements and the result was you created a strong immune system so that your body was able to get rid of the lyme..  Good for you!   That is precisely Dr. Jernigan's theory on getting better.   Rid the body of toxins and build up one's immune system.

I am also well (going on 5 years now) basically doing what you did except I took Dr. Jernigan's botanicals (that was the easy part).  I believe daily detoxing is at least 50% of the battle not only with lyme but with any disease.   Hey, we live in such a toxic world, even the foods out there are not healthy compared to the old days before they injected animals with antibiotics and who knows what else?

When I first became sick and didn't know it was lyme my body wanted raw garlic and I ate raw garlic cloves like they were candy without knowing why..  Today I know why and I think by my eating that garlic I prevented myself from being even sicker..   Garlic is a natural antibiotic. 

So thanks again for posting!  Keep on detoxing and you will be just fine..

Denise

I do not refuse to have hope, Patti. My situation and your situation is different, as is those of others. I can't detox, even Dr J who is Denese's idol said that. I am nursing, and garlic upsets baby's tommy. You can't talk for the rest of us. You probably cautght it on time AND did not have anything else going against you. I was in a car accident, had lyme, bartonella, and an active virus that is not going away on its own. ALL THIS while pregnant. You can speak for yourself, but not others. Some people here have had lyme for decades. They or even well for a while and then relapsed. That was my case. I was almost symptom free for 8 years.

I have heard of garlic, I take it every few days--don't want to kill the baby! Some people have had excellent results using one protocol or another.

I do believe in God, but I also know TONS of people that believer in Him, and they died of cancer. Consider yourserlf lucky and while it is good to hear stories like yours, a little sensitivity goes a long way. THere are people here that did all the right things, but they have been misdiagnosed for years, even decades, and have had irreversable damage from lyme.

As soon as I will stop nursing, I will do more. For now, I can't. If baby is infected, she will get my antibodies and hopefully beat Lyme.

I do have hope, a lot of hope, I was ok for 8 years, but you just never know what can happen to bring your symptoms back! I cook everyday, all the food we eat is 90% organic. I grew up on a farm and I know good food. We do not buy meat that has been through abx etc I use almost no sugar and no white flour. I use lemons and salt everyday, which have helped many people. Probably any other protocol you would have tried would have helped you because the disease did not affect you as much as other people here.

You have no idea what cronic lyme is, if you thing that's all it takes to cure it. Someone I know is in a wheel chair. He's been sick for almost 10 yeasrs and had several surgeries. Again, you are lucky, and I hope you will not have to deal with this again. I do the best I can to take care of myself with 3 kids (1 in school, one home, + a baby).

I am glad you are doing better--If I would have more time, i would do much better, I just don't, I take care of everyone else first, which is what good moms do.

Before I leave I wanted to share with you twelve ways to fight lyme. It may or may not help you but it's worth a try.

1. Keep a positive attitude, avoid stress
2. Eat right, organic, raw veggies- celery, spinach helped me a lot.
3. Drink plenty of water- add lemon occassionally
4. Eat garlic if you can tolerate it- it's a natural antibiotic
5. Take hot espom salt baths to help kill the lyme
6. Take cold baths to soothe your aches and pain
7. Stay away from junk food
8. Avoid artificial sweetners and ingredients
9. Drink acai juice- it gives you energy
10. Take a whole food vitamin if you aren't eating enough raw veggies
11. Flax/Fish oil for inflammation as they are rich in Omega
12. Don't give up!

Whether you believe in prayer or not, God or not, I do and will continue praying for everyone of you.

3 John 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest ...
Beloved, I pray that in all things thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

Patty:

I did not mean to scare you, although I wish someone scared me and I would not have taken this so lightly--only wanted to give you a heads up. I was in denial for a year bec of my negative tests and my dr telling me I'm cured. My symptoms were rare and far apart, so I didn't pay attention. It kept popping in my head when my symtoms v. v. v. slowly and far apart (at first) came back, and after a few minutes of reasoning, I blamed everything on the car accident. Just be on the watch and don't wait if you start having symptoms again or if some symptoms are still left--that is the message I wanted to send you. I am not defensive about anything, as someone put it, I have no reason to, because I was almost symptom free for a whole year, and prior to that for 8 years.  Just be careful and continue to search for anything else that may help you and hopefully, you'll never go through this again.

I never knew one can relapse, I trusted my dr, did not do any reading, until it got really bad one day, it took me completely by surprise (the second time much worse than the first, just this year--I have a masters degree in Statistics with a minor in Math and could not add 2 numbers under 10--that was the wake up call for me). I started to put OJ in my coffee instead of milk, etc. MUCH uglier the second time around!  I could not walk for a couple of days.  The soles of my feet were so sore, and my kneese and anckles and hands hurt so badly.  Keep in mind that I didn't have sore feet (possibly Bartonella)  for 8 years!

For me, the first sign of relapse was nothing==only a few symptoms and far, far apart that I was not able to put it together--just be on the watch and do know that many people do relapse. This ugly bacteria has the potential of hiding in cells and escape abx--it may hide in there for years--I believe that is my case. There are no accurate tests to check if one is cured or not--I just did not know any better! When in hiding, the blood work comes back negative because the spirochettes change forms and are no longer in blood. Some people here that were very sick had one year of abx until their tests finally turned from negative to positive. LLMDs (lyme literate docs) don't trust tests so much, they treat based on symptoms, not test results because they are very innacurate.

Here is the website I found about salt and vitamin C:
http://www.lymephotos.com/index.shtml

If you don't have high blood pressure, you can try it by starting with a low dose, just as maintenance. In my case, I have very very very low blood pressure, so salt won't hurt me. I also have hypothyroidism, which I believe was caused by lyme at least 5 yrs ago (only the doc was not bright enough to look at what was actually causing my thyroid levels to be all over the place and swellen and put me on thyroid meds), and salt won't hurt me. If you suffer from heart disease, you probably should stay away from salt. I am not a doctor, so you should check with someone to make sure this is not detrimental to your health. If these people on that website are right, I think it will help me. If you get grossed out easily, I suggest you don't click on the first link at the bottom of the home page, as it gets gross at one point. I don't know who these people are, I searched in google for

lyme cure

and I ran into their website. I do not take everything they say as science, but willing to pick and choose what I think may help me.

Anyway, I'm glad that you are doing well.  I have days when I am myself 90%, so I do think I can beat it if I attack it every possible way I can. Right now I also have an active virus that showed on my blood work, not sure when I picked it but it is not going away, as it does in non-lyme people. This keeps the immune system busy, as well. It is getting harder to get rid of lyme if you pick everything else in the mean time.

Time for my pills...

Post Edited (Simela) : 9/23/2010 7:45:37 AM (GMT-6)

Thanks for sharing your story Patticakes!!

Also... garlic, olive leaf extract and oregeno oil are said to cure lyme. Collodial Silver is said to destroy it too along with 650 other disease but should not be used for long periods of time as it can turn your skin blue. Ginger, BlackWall Nut Hull and Wormwood too. You can google these to get more info. If you are on meds check with your doctor first or wait until you have finished your meds.

Post Edited (Pattycakes7567) : 9/24/2010 6:45:19 PM (GMT-6)

Patty:
Yes, Lyme tests are very innacurate, but I am glad you are doing better. Without a + test, you'll never know if it was lyme or just vitamin D defficiency, but a + test is signifficant and it is not to be taken lightly.   I am in the sun at least 20 min per day/I hang my clothes on the line (in the sun) and walk to pick up my son from school (20 min total walk). I love being outside! ALso, I have not had any difficiency with vit D, all my tests come normal, all my life--except the thyroid. Also, I have had 5 positive tests for lyme and one negative. If it was the other way around, I would trust that I may not have lyme.  Tests test for ANTIBODIES, and my immune system would not make antibodies against a disease I don't have.

Maybe this worked out well for you bec. you made adjustments in your diet that will continue to help you in the long run. I am not big on coke, but I love my coffee. I used to drink 3 cups per day (w. lots of milk in it) and now I drink a cup every other day--I switched to tea. I have had an almost perfect day today, so I think the abx are working. A couple of months ago, I could not walk without using my hands and sholders against furniture and walls to get myself around the house...

Post Edited (Simela) : 9/24/2010 5:26:01 PM (GMT-6)

Lyme has really put you all through a lot. I am really sadden by this. Through the years I have been healthy. I never had any symptons until a year ago- a cold I couldn't get rid of and physical pain. Maybe I caught mine early on- at least that's what I am hoping. What about blood sugar- have any of you had any blood sugar problems ( too high or too low) since dealing with lyme? A friend asked but I wasn't sure if lyme had any effects on blood sugar.

I hope you all get better. Whatever information I can find, I will gladly share. If nothing else I can at least be a friend. = )

Hi patty.

i am glad your spirits are so high. But I think I can speak for a lot of people when I say that chronic illness will really get a person down sometimes. In fact Lyme can cause mental health issues alone. I can see why your post might upset someone. 

You have to allow people to feel the way they do and believe how they want to believe in things.  You cant dictate those things or people get upset.

I hope for your sake that you got an accurate lyme test. but as someone said before that it measures your antibody response and not the active organisim in your body. If you do not have an imune response, you will get a negative test.

Its great to have a good diet, take supplements and all but Lyme is caused by bacteria and antibiotics kill bacteria So in my opinion they are needed.

Just my 2 cents

Take a cd57 blood test to see how low your Lyme levels are. If you are feeling great then don't bother. Lots of good points above in long thread. There are 300 different strains of Lyme disease, so no two people are the same. Add in the other 5 co infections that you can get with Lyme and ouch.
A negative blood test means nothing unless it came from Igenex. A healthy diet and two- three weeks of abx is like putting a bandaid on malaria.
It won't work. One of course needs to fight, but being happy and positive is hard when your immune system is collapsing and your central nervous system is also under attack.
The sick person not only loses their health but their mental well being.
I fought Lyme for a long time, and finally beat it in Feb 08. So coming up on two years.
But my treatment was hard and expensive and not covered by my insurance.
Alternative, Ozone, colloidal silver, a port in my chest with a catheter inside. Envita cured me of the Lyme. But now my heart is giving me problems.....so?

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Hi Spychic!
Welcome to our community! I'm glad you found us!

The others have given you some good information, and please do ask any questions you may have! Do you or someone you know have Lyme? We may be of help!!