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Posted 9/29/2011 5:57 PM (GMT 0)
Subject kind of says it all...it seems like I have a herx reaction a few hours after I take my antibiotics every time...meaning twice a day, for a couple of hours. Is this...possible? I've been trying so hard lately to understand exactly how antibiotics work, like what happens from the moment you swallow them until they kill bacteria or stop them from reproducing or whatever they do...and I've come up with nothing. But can they work that fast? My only guess is that the "herx" is just a lack of blood flow to the rest of my body since it's redirected to my digestive system to deal with the antibiotics...but I'm not a scientist or a doctor so I have no idea.

Also, kind of strange...in the morning I take 500mg of tindazole and 150 of doxy, and the reaction I feel a few hours later is always worse than the reaction I have at night when I take the tindazole, doxy, AND ceftin. Shouldn't more antibiotics make me feel worse? I also only have anxiety attacks during the few hours after I take my morning (or usually afternoon) antibiotics. I'm not really sure what my question is here, but any insight into the process of antibiotics killing bacteria and what that does to the body would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

Posted 9/29/2011 6:04 PM (GMT 0)
If you have a fast metabolism when it comes to drugs, I could see that happening. I have a fast metabolism when it comes to general anesthesia. I woke up right at the end of my surgery once while I was still in the OR. Weird. It's funny how some drugs can affect the body so quickly and effectively.
Posted 9/29/2011 6:48 PM (GMT 0)
I actually just talked to my doctor and she said it might be because of my low body weight...which I wouldn't have without a seriously gifted metabolism. I never thought of this before.

I've also woken up from anesthesia...While getting my wisdom teeth pulled. Very strange.
Posted 9/29/2011 7:24 PM (GMT 0)
I've woken up during a knee surgery - that was a little freaky, as they were in the middle of it!

Actually herxes are due to toxins, and ours are due to specific toxins released by the Lyme and other infections' bacteria and whatever else (Babesia is a protozoa) dying off. Here is an article that explains it much better than I ever could: findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_285/ai_n19170382/?tag=content;col1.
Posted 9/29/2011 8:08 PM (GMT 0)
Travelor,

So does that mean that I kill bacteria every time I take antibiotics? Or is it sort of unrelated and thats just when the toxins are circulating or whatever? If so that's probably a good thing, right? That means I'm fighting hard? Sorry I just don't understand how all of this works and I am one of those people who needs to analyze and completely understand EVERYTHING! :)
Posted 9/29/2011 8:37 PM (GMT 0)
Don't worry about the questions, Borderlyme!! I'm one of the worst I think when it comes to wanting to know, so I'm full of questions!!!

We have to keep a certain level of abx continually circulating in our blood stream trying to 'catch' all of the bacteria when it enters to reproduce there. The bacteria that get 'caught' get killed of course, but it releases toxins when it dies. Now here is where I get a little fuzzy - someone can feel free to correct me here!

The bacteria also die off in their life cycle inside of us, so that they release those toxins as well. Add to that all of the toxins we pick up just living in this world of ours, plus from all of the pesticides, and other chemicals used on our food and our food animals, well we end up with a ton of toxins.

From what I understand, those that have Lyme have issues with our bodies not being able to detox as it did before we were infected. So that compounds the issue further. This is why the efforts that we put into detoxing can alleviate some of our symptoms.

I have read that article that I suggested above, but I just printed it out again, so that I can read it while waiting for my Acu Doc tomorrow. I really can't remember what the article says, but I can get back to you on this if I feel like I can explain things better once I have read it again!
Posted 9/29/2011 9:18 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Miss C!!! smilewinkgrin It's good to know that someone reads this stuff besides me!!! LOL!!
Posted 9/30/2011 2:41 AM (GMT 0)
Traveler,

I just read that article you posted...thanks for that, very interesting. Except for the fact that my high-protein/lots of fruit and veggies diet seems to be the enemy according to him. I also don't know if I have neurotoxins because they should bd causing swelling in the brain and all of my brain tests are normal.....
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