IV Vitamin C is usually given in too small quantities

There is something tricky about Vitamin C. It has so many functions and routes that there is much misunderstanding about it.
What helps to clear the complicated picture is to realize that most wild animals make their own ascorbic acid (AA) internally in large quantities, on top of the small amounts they get from food sources.

Although we humans have a comparable biological system, we have lost the possibility to make our own ascorbic acid, along the way of our evolution. Of the four genes that are necessary to make the four enzymes to create ascorbic acid from bloodsugar, one gene is messed up. So three steps work out fine but the fourth fails and so we are left with a vulnerable system.

The wild animal turns the inner production of ascorbic acid up, when there is a need for it. The production can be about 10 grams a day when there is no challenge and can come up to 90 grams a day in case of infection, injury or stressful situation.

An infection or intoxication in a human being eats up the available AA in the blood, as can be seen by the lowering of the bloodlevel of AA in most chronic diseases.

In the wild animal however, the production of AA gets turned on when trouble arises and instead of a fall in AA level, a rise will occur.

If you consider this function in the wild animal and the enormous quantities of AA it can produce, it can become clear that when we become faced with multiple infections like Borrelia and co., bloodlevels of AA will drop significantly and we are with too little defense against the micro-organisms .

Conclusion: If we want to fight Borrelia and co. we need at least an IV of high dose Vit. C a day for a longer period of time, because as long as the IV runs bloodlevels are high and when it is finished the level will fall down again.

Anyone experience with this?

Post Edited (Sunnyman) : 1/3/2012 10:48:18 AM (GMT-7)

Post Edited (Sunnyman) : 12/27/2011 7:58:39 AM (GMT-7)

Hello Yazzer, glad it speaks to you.

What you tell is exactly the problem with these mixtures. Some component can limit the intake, while another still stays too low. Where the GSH has downsides while taking it as an infusion, this does not hold true for vitamin C. It is virtually impossible to overdose on vit C and you cannot interfere with your own production as there very likely is none. 

Best is to take vitamin C apart from other stuff and maybe boost glutathione with coffee enema next to the vit C infusion.

PS - and, BTW, there is a specific order that the various nutrients and such are supposed to be pushed with the Myers Cocktails to address the issue you are stating...

yazzer said...
 I believe I owe part of my recent amazing turn-around for the better to literally eating chewable Vitamin C regularly all day!  

Hello yazzer,

sounds like a nice way

to keep C level up all day

What brand do you chew

I guess I'd like to chew it too!

From what I have been reading and learning so far I have become convinced that ascorbic acid/ascorbate is our ticket back to health and regeneration, it just has not been tried well enough.

The only person here who has to win in this is the patient. So it is up to us to figure this out.

It all seems to point to this vitamin C. Chronic disease is a modern scurvy.........?.

In order to find an explanation of why vitamin C has such an uplifting effect I have found this text by Thomas Levy, MD, JD, in his book mentioned above:

“In addition to the potent antioxidant, reducing ability of vitamin, which accounts for a great deal of its antimicrobial clinical effects, vitamin C has been observed to have many other positive effects as well. Many other antioxidants simply cannot accomplish what vitamin C does in the biological system.

Some of the mechanisms contributing to vitamin C's potent antimicrobial effects likely include the following:

 -1 - Enhancement of interferon production. Interferons are naturally produced antiviral glycoproteins. Interferons are produced by cells that get infected with a virus and they subsequently increase the resistance of nearby cells to virus attack.

 -2 - Enhancement of phagocyte function. A phagocyte is the kind of white blood cell that ingests microorganisms and infection related cellular debris.

 -3 - Selective concentration of vitamin C in white blood cells. Some of the primary cells in the immune system concentrate vitamin C as much as 80 times higher than the level in plasma. This assures extra delivery of vitamin C to the sites of infection by the migration of the vitamin C-rich white blood cells”

To be continued.