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Posted 8/13/2012 2:41 PM (GMT 0)
I have been taking doxy and riflampin for four weeks and I have developed charley horses in my calves when I stretch my legs out while sleeping. I have also noticed that I have to get up every night to pee (not something I did before) and then I have to poop three or four times a day. I was wondering if the charley horses had something to do with constantly expelling water etc from my body. Like dehydration or something?

I try to drink as much water as I can. Muscle cramps come from lack of minerals?

Posted 8/14/2012 11:57 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Shinji,

The muscle cramping can be from the loss of fluids and electrolytes. I use Gatorade when this is a problem. The sugar it contains isn't great, but using it really helps.

It is good your body is getting rid of all the toxins. You should notice that you start to feel much better because of it.
Posted 8/14/2012 2:52 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks, I will try Gatorade...how does it compare with vitamin water?
My body is feeling better...everything is speeding through my body so my IBS symptoms are gone. The leg cramping is just painfull.
Posted 8/14/2012 3:36 PM (GMT 0)
What you need is to replace the electrolytes in your body, so if it's got electrolytes - it'll say on the bottle or package if it does - then it will work as well.

Are you detoxing? This will help to lessen those kinds of symptoms. We have a really great post on detoxing while you have these infections that explains what you need, and how to go about detoxing in our "New to Lyme?" thread.
Posted 8/14/2012 3:38 PM (GMT 0)
I think coconut water is supposed to be good for replacing electrolytes too - I personally prefer pedialyte!
Posted 8/14/2012 8:13 PM (GMT 0)
I called my doctor. He wants me to get a test for a certain bacteria that could be causing the pooping problem. I don't have insurance and the test will be almost 300. Stool sample test. Ugh.
Posted 8/14/2012 8:36 PM (GMT 0)
You should as why he wants to do that specific test and how important he believes it to be. If it's for what is known as C-Diff, it will be more than worth the money. If it's for parasites, lots of people with tick-borne infections also have parasite issues, so that would be another good one to have done.

You may need to remind your doctor that you don't have insurance and need to cut costs where ever you can.
Posted 8/14/2012 11:34 PM (GMT 0)
It is C-Diff test. He said that I should stop taking antibiotics for a few days to see if the issue clears itself up...if it continues when I have been off of the meds, then we will investigate the c-diff thing. It sounds like a reasonable strategy to me. So I am going to up my probiotics, maybe buy some better quality ones than I have, and see if it works. I hope the leg cramps go away too.
Posted 8/14/2012 11:45 PM (GMT 0)
C-Diff is a serious condition, so do have this test done. Borrow money from family or friends if you need to.

In my opinion, kefir is one of the best probiotics one can use. It gets really inexpensive if you are willing to make your own.

Be sure to let us know how the test turns out!
Posted 8/15/2012 1:56 PM (GMT 0)
I have been in doxy plus rifampin for 6 weeks. I think most people on this list are not on enough probiotics -- IMHO. The stool problems you describe are probably a bigger issue than the charley horses.

My LLMD has me on VSL#3 twice a day - total 100 billion microorganisms. This is in a sachet that you mix with water. (It would probably take 10 capsules to fit it all in.) It is to protect the gut from being colonized by unwanted and dangerous bacteria such as c difficile. It is expensive, but I think it is worth it. I have been on doxy 200 mg twice a day plus rifampin 300 mg twice a day and I do not have diarrhea, which is a miracle. I attribute this to the VSL#3 and the 5 billion of saccharomyces bouldarii. Not all probiotics are created equal and many just don't have enough microorganizms per dose.

Hoosierlyme
Posted 8/15/2012 4:32 PM (GMT 0)
Hoosierlyme,
I like kefir for the same reason!! I happen to also agree with you about most not taking enough probiotics. The docs don't understand this usually either, but it's really important to protect the digestive tract, and then to replenish once the abx have gone through and killed indiscriminately!
Posted 8/16/2012 4:47 PM (GMT 0)
So within 24 hours of stopping abx, the diahrea stopped. I am suppose to report back to my doctor tomorrow with update on it. I have been trying to keep hydrated, drinking gatorade. I am taking probiotics in capsule form that I get from Costco. Where do you get VSL#3?
I have tried Kefir before...it usually upsets my stomach, but maybe I should try it again. I think there is nondairy kefir, right?
I haven't had the test yet, I am really hoping not to...seriously, the way my body is, I would pay money for the test but it would prove inconclusive or negative. I am a fabulous test taker, on paper I have phenomal health. Thats probably why my doctors said is was just anxiety for some many years. (I did test postive for adrenal fatigue, but that was with a saliva test, and everyone discounts that lol).
Posted 8/17/2012 11:10 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Shinji you can order VSL online here is a link http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_3?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=vsl+3+probiotics&sprefix=vsl%2Caps%2C489

I have a prescription from my doctor for it, my insurance won't pay for it and it costs the same at CVS as Amazon. It does work well though. Good luck to you.
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