Do you think the governement of Egipt did wrong when they used veterinary medicine to treat for paragonimus?
They were illegal - 0.0% - 0 votes
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This post is not illegal, topics like this should be discussed - 50.0% - 1 votes
Mpj
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Posted 9/20/2012 3:05 AM (GMT 0)
By any means I would discuss an illegal topic, but my post was arbitrarily closed
arguing it was illegal to use veterinary medicines and that cannot be discussed here.
To achievinggrace and all the moderators I recommend to open your minds when it comes
to treatments and healing and do not limit resources to people in need before researching.
The Government of Egipt had to use veterinary TRICLABENDAZOLE to heal the people of their
country, and had to ask the pharmaceuticals to do trials to help them in this journey:
"Triclabendazole, a benzimidazole compound, has recently been registered in Egypt for the treatment of human fascioliasis. Triclabendazole has been used in veterinary practice for fascioliasis since 1983. In animals, this drug was highly efficient against both mature and immature Fasciola worms at a dosage of 10 mg/kg body weight. It was not used in humans until the 1989 epidemic near the Caspian Sea when Iranian authorities approved the use of veterinary formulations to address the problem." "The clinical studies were carried out on 245 patients with fascioliasis in 6 trials, and on 261 people with paragonimiasis in 3 trials. The trials on the use of Triclabendazole in treating fascioliasis were carried out in Bolivia, Chile, Cuba, Iran and Peru. Studies on the treatment of paragonimiasis were conducted in Cameroon and Ecuador". https://apps.who.int/inf-fs/en/fact191.html
The results ALL OVER THE WORLD were outstanding, there was not a case not cured.
Tell me how can a discussion like this is illegal? I was talking about the use of Ivomec in South America to treat malaria and was shut down; do you know Merck gives it for free in Africa to treat for River blindness and all the protozoans? Do you recall LYME DISEASE has a protozoan filarial like, similar to the River blindness - said by Dr Stephen Fry and Dr Eva sapi each in their private studies - and that considering HUMAN IVERMECTINE and of course it's sister version veterinary Ivomec is a must? If I'm illegal I'm out of here because my only goal is to help and share. In my home country in South America, hundreds of people have been healed from parasites in their blood using Ivomec, the veterinary version; even recommended by the Drs in rural areas where they cannot buy or find the human versions. Thank God they don't think it is illegal to save their lives!
Mpj
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Posted 9/20/2012 3:10 AM (GMT 0)
This was my original post: "I feel I must re-open the discussion about the IVERMECTIN medicine because it was closed, in my opinion arbitrarily, without explaining the reasons of the risks or benefits of the veterinary medicine. The discussion was closed saying "I am sorry you guys have to come to this"? like if it is a bad thing? like making drugs or so?
Closing the discussion also closed the door for proper explanations and teaching. The horses are the most expensive animals and their medicines are the very best!!!!!! Ivermectin is given for free in Africa for certain infections - and in the US Drs are starting to "experiment" with it while it is given everywhere in the world even in Norway or Sweden!!!! Do not close the door to this discussion, it is worse to have the people taking the Ivermectin for animals in hiding not knowing how to do it and risking their health. ... not having treatment for Lyme Disease, leaving the people without treatment, invaded and infected by bacteria and parasites is even more harmful , so please, lets open our minds to learn and share information without vetoing it but researching and sharing! I am opened to share all I know and all I have experienced with Ivermectin and Lyme Disease. And I have made a blog to share this information. Do not kill the messenger but share and spread the word that could save many from this terrible disease!
Post Edited By Moderator (Traveler) : 11/5/2011 11:43:07 AM (GMT-6)"
And this was the response:" Posted 11/5/2011 8:16 AM (GMT -6)
Hi Mpj,
While I appreciate you wanting to help people out, this just isn't going to work here.
Using Veterinary medicines for something other than their labeled use is against Federal Law. Check the label, you'll see!
The forum rules clearly state (rule #1, in fact) that we cannot discuss illegal activities.
Again, I do appreciate you wanting to help the members. Perhaps reminding them to get their doctors to fully check for parasites would be a better approach.
Thanks for your understanding.
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Co-Moderator Lyme Disease Forum
Post Edited (achievinggrace) : 11/5/2011 7:20:42 AM (GMT-6)
Mpj
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Posted 9/20/2012 3:14 AM (GMT 0)
The world of medicine is huge and the needs are growing and people needs to be open minded. And I am not saying go take vet medicine but to discuss the benefits as many countries of the world are doing and even here; researchers and laboratories are studying these meds to treat for LYME DISEASE and other diseases including cancer! RESEARCH IT!
And to the Moderator just study and learn the veterinary medicines are compounds much powerful and even higher quality than many human medicines; like Ivermectin today has a human version but it started as ivomec and after it was created it was such a wonderful anthelmintic the researchers stopped trying to create more medicines of this family to the extent science today wonders what is going to happen once parasites have resistance to Ivermectin, there is nothing better yet. Yes it started as veterinary, not illegal!
Traveler
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Posted 9/20/2012 5:47 PM (GMT 0)
The use of veterinary medicines on animals is not illegal, but using veterinary medicines on people is a topic that is not allowed to be discussed here. Not because the Mods here don't want it discussed, but because Admin has set the rules that we all must follow - even the Mods!
So as Achievinggrace said before - "Using Veterinary medicines for something other than their labeled use is against Federal Law. Check the label, you'll see!
The forum rules clearly state (rule #1, in fact) that we cannot discuss illegal activities.
Again, I do appreciate you wanting to help the members. Perhaps reminding them to get their doctors to fully check for parasites would be a better approach.
Thanks for your understanding."
Should you choose to ignore the rules for posting again, I will have to take it up with the Admin, so please follow our simple rules.