List of folks recovered from Lyme's disease

Hi All,

I was just asked in an email if I knew of anyone completely recovered from Lyme's disease.

So I wrote the ones I knew of off the top of my head.

Hopefully inspiring and easy to read through quickly.

NOTE: As I have been interested in alternative healing for many years, this list reflects people doing alternative protocols. It is what I have been exposed to and what I know personally. Not a commentary on what anyone should do :)

The idea is that if one person can recover, any of us can recover!

Please add more..from any kind of recovery program...


In no particular order:

Perry Fields: well known world-class athlete who was very ill for 7 years. Now back to being an athlete! You can google her and get her story. She is a lyme advocate and counsels people and has a book out. She ended up doing her own alternative treatment after other methods failing..did her own research and tried lots of things.

Heather's Dad's (forum member) daughter :) He has posted about this. They felt she might die at one point and is now very healthy!

Deejavu (forum member) Did home protocol and is now symptom free for many years!

A random lady I met at Hansa Clinic had done the two week protocol a year or so previously for lyme's disease and is now well. She never did go back. She was there with her daughter who had an treatment or doc appot.

Riley...a 19 year old young man I met (with his Mom) at Hansa Clinic. He had not recovered completely, but was having a miraculous improvement. He arrived in a wheelchair (had been so for two years), unable to walk, unable to feed himself, could not carry a conversation. After 3-4 weeks, he was walking from the hotel to the clinic and carrying on full conversations!

here is his blog http://rileylymebegone.blogspot.com/

Dr. David Jernigan. Had lyme's disease and recovered. Also he treated one or more of his children. He writes about it in his book, Beating Lyme Disease.



That's it for what I know personally, or via personal research, that I remember right now anyway.

Hi Mystery. You are welcome.

R.e. Using Jernigan neutraceuticals while doing abx: I think it is fine, yes. Especially the antitox ones, as they are helping the body detox, even into the brain tissues. Also one for yeast should help if you have that. And there is one for viruses, too.

I don't know about the lymogen and borrelogen (his neutraceuticals for lyme specifically). I do think I remember reading in Dr. J's book about whether to use them or not with abx, and I think thy answer was yes, but they would not be very effective? sorry, I am just not sure.

I would consider getting his book if you seriously want to use the products..it is very thorough and has the complete home protocol in it. Then you would know what you were doing with them. It is also a goldmine of info on home methods for detox, immune support, whole body healing, etc that don't cost anything, or very little.

Good luck!!
N

Thanks so much for the post. Its nice to know there are people out there who are fully recovered! We all be one day! Thats my hope. And bars...Im sorry. If someone can't handle you at your worst, they sure don't deserve you at your best! May sound cliche but I really do believe it.
Blessings!

So, all of the people on the " short list" have recovered using non- antibiotic treatments?

If that's not food for thought,what is ?

Tickled

What do you mean ,we don't know who they are?

They are trustworthy and caring members who have shared their experiences with us!!

I honestly see both sides of this debate. I'm terrified of taking abc and getting worse, but I know herbals and the Hansa Center, or anything similar, is completely out ofmthe question for me. I simply cant afford it. So, to read that this what it takes for many to heal is honestly a little discouraging for me :(

Obviously I don't agree with attacking each other, and I don't feel like I don't know who's posting it, but that's because I've been on this forum long enough to have gained a sense of trust for many of these posters :) But, I do see how someone could be skeptical at first. It's tough to be in our shoes...sick, scared, and unsure of who to trust or where to turn. The best any of us can do is decide what's best for ourselves, and hope to have a little support along the way!
I hope I haven't offended anyone, and that I worded this as I had intended, as I'm feeling pretty bad at the moment.

It's just my opinion that's it's hard, all of it!!

What kind of treatment to choose is a highly personal choice, and no one should be attacked for choosing one or the other ...or both! We need to be here to support each other - there's plenty of doubts and accusations coming from all around us, we surely don't need that happening here as well.

Tolerance is the name of the game here, folks. We are all unique individuals with unique-to-us things going on in our bodies.

Tacitus,
If you wish to discuss this further, please email me. I will not have this discussion on the forum.

So that everyone knows, I do consider this to be an attack: "The fact of the matter is we don't know who's actually posting this. I noticed that these kind of posts are usually from people linked in some way to the Hansa Clinic. But we don't know who they really are."

No one really knows who I am either, but I've been here a long time and I do know what I'm talking about, or I usually will say that I don't know, but I'm always willing to be corrected when I make mistakes when that person can provide the documentation. You can find my posts on this forum any time you wish to check me out.

Tacitus- It is absolutely not an issue of antibiotics versus other treatments. Antibiotics will work for some people and fail for others. The people that go to the Hansa Center are usually people for whom antibiotics have failed . My daughter is completely healthy now. How can you say that antibiotics have been scientifically proven to heal my daughter when they have failed her? What is so scientific about that? How can you say that the only thing that is certain is that we have paid money to the clinic? That is not very scientific either! My daughter went to the clinic sick, and came home well, and stayed well! Now if you don't believe me, then, that is your problem, not mine.

I have made it very clear that antibiotics are adequate for some people, and that others may need other approaches. What is so terrible about that? I don't at all expect that a person would run out to the Hansa Center as soon as they get sick. My advice is for the person that has tried all of the "scientifically proven" approaches that have failed them. Then, when they have no further hope, these people will usually discover that they can find their answers at the Hansa Center. I went to the Hansa Center as a LAST RESORT, not a first resort! If the Hansa Center was a person's last best hope after all of the "scientifically proven" remedies have failed, then it would be downright immoral of me not to say so. Knowing what I know, I can rightfully say that you are not doing anybody a favor with your unfounded allegations and insinuations.

Having said all of this, i realize that envy/jealousy may also be at the root of why someone would be upset with someone else's progress. You may feel that because the healing came as a result of a treatment approach that you don't understand, that it gives an opening to denigrate that approach. I accept that and understand that. Hey, if it gives you a sense of empowerment to say the things that you said in your last post, let it flow. I am here to serve, and I am willing to be on the receiving end of a badly needed "vent". Frankly, I don't take any of this personally, and I don't think any less of you.

Don

Good point - Tickledpink! In fact, i have a book of the writings of the historian Tacitus sitting in back of me on my bookshelf!

O.K, we have much in common besides this horrible illness! He is Tacitus and i like to read what Tacitus has to say. Lets rally around the common ground that we have, and not tear apart the bonds that we have. Lets move on.

One more thing- if you still are doubtful of our intentions, please just use the "Ignore" button. I realize that there may just be a conflict of personalities. I might just rub you the wrong way with my comments, and the way that i say them. This episode is causing me to reflect upon, and to be even more careful of how I write my posts.

Don

Post Edited (Heathersdad) : 1/3/2013 12:05:45 PM (GMT-7)

marie,

Frankly, I agree with you. the object is to get people well. It is not to criticize the approaches that make people well. I am simply saying that if it looks like a treatment is not working, then, a person may want to try this approach. It HAS WORKED for many others. I don't go around saying that somebodies approach is unscientific. All of our approaches have limitations. I would never claim that everybody is healed at the Hansa Center, but neither should somebody else come on here and put it down as unscientific when he knows next to nothing about the treatment approach.

Thanks for your input.

Don

Imagine the looks I get when I tell people that I am using Chinese Medicine to heal from tick-borne infections!!! LOL!!!

We all do need to be careful to not cross a line and attack those who are using any type of medicine that's not in line with our own thinking/beliefs - unless it's truly unhealthy and/or dangerous to their health - and even then we should be careful to reason with, not attack them also.

Yay! Thanks Mystery Illness! So happy to hear some abx success stories! Don't get me wrong, I want to try herbals and supplements too, but I'm hoping against hope that insurance will cover the expense treatment for me! Otherwise I'll be in a quite a pickle...

For those of you that see an LLMD that accepts insurance, are your meds covered, at least for the most part?

Posts like these make me sad...sad to see how much we all struggle, and to see how hard it is. Sorry, I'm very emo today!

Good luck to everyone, regardless of the path you choose!