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Posted 1/21/2013 1:54 AM (GMT 0)
Hi everyone!

I am new to this site and wanted to start a thread on my journey through treating with Dr. David. Jernigan's protocol!

A little background on me- I am a 22 year old female who got sick at age 13. It began with a 2 week long rash (although this rash did not look like the typical bullseye rash associated with Lyme). From then on i began developing symptoms, the main one being nausea. Then dizzyness, blacking out, heart palpitations, low blood pressure, headaches/migraines, anxiety/depression, neck pressure/pain.

I was tested for Lyme through Igenex approx. 1 year ago and although the Western Blot came back negative, my CD 57 was extremely low (31) so between that and my symptoms my naturopath diagnosed me with Late Stage Lyme Disease.

I have been researching treatment quite a bit over the past year and although i made small changes (i.e. eating a diet primarily gluten free, dairy free, preservative free and refined sugar free) i have not felt confident enough in any one treatment to invest my time and money up until this point. I read Dr. Jernigan's book about a month ago and have decided that this is the protocol i want to use.

So, i have ordered the Neuro-Antitox, Borrelogen as well as the mustard bath ingredients and am excited to get started! I have already been doing the daily skin brushing, the epsom salt/hydrogen peroxide baths every second day, and infrared sauna sessions every second day.

I want to track my progress for my own personal reference but also for others that are interested in hearing about how this protocol works for me.

I have heard good things about this protocol and am very hopeful that this could be the beginning of my healing journey! If any of you have experience with this protocol, I would love to hear from you about your experiences! Wishing you all happiness and good health!

-Shannon

Post Edited (shannabanana3) : 1/21/2013 11:57:13 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/21/2013 4:49 AM (GMT 0)
Shannon,

I will be very anxious to see how you progress. Keep us updated!
Posted 1/21/2013 11:20 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Shannon,

Good for you for reading Dr. J's book and doing your own research!  I had fantastic results following Dr. J's Healing at Home protocol!

If you use the search engine, you will find GWB, HeathersDad, etc. posts as well as others who had great experiences with Dr. J's protocol.   Some people went to Hansa but I didn't. 

Sounds like you are on the right track and wishing you the bestest!!

Also, if you want to keep a daily log of how you are feeling (I wish I had done this), you could sign up for a blog (wordpress.com is one, I know there are more that are free) and just blog either every day or once a week to keep track of your progress.

Sending you healing thoughts!

Denise

Posted 1/22/2013 12:44 AM (GMT 0)
shannabanana3,

Good luck with your treatment. I also will be looking forward to hearing of your progress reports!

Don
Posted 1/22/2013 4:15 AM (GMT 0)
Hey WWJD20 and Shannon,

I am really eager to hear about your treatment and how it goes. Please keep us up to date with what happens. I really want to start the Neuro Antitox. Did you guys get the one with alcohol or the one made with apple vinegar?
Posted 1/22/2013 10:33 PM (GMT 0)
WWJD20- I look forward to hearing about your progress with this protocol as well!

samjones- I ordered the regular alcohol based ones. They shipped out today so i am assuming it will take a week or so for them to arrive as i am in Canada.

I plan to update this post weekly- with my progress, symptoms, etc.

Technically, i have already been doing the dry skin brushing, infrared sauna sessions, and detox baths for 3 weeks.

The first couple weeks i felt "good", that is my regular symptoms of nausea, weakness, fatigue were bearable. This week however, is a different story.

I have been basically bedridden for the past week straight. I am extremely nauseated constantly, to the point where i've spent much of my time lying next to the toilet these past few days. I am blacking out almost every time i stand (blacking out as in everything goes black and i get weak and need to sit immediately or i will collapse). I have also had stomach pain and burning which is very uncomfortable. It has been hell to say the least.

My only explanation for this is that the detoxing was causing me to herx since my body isn't used to such intense detoxing. For the time being, i am still doing the detox baths every second day but i have stopped the infrared sauna until my symptoms level out again.

I hope it gets better soon as it is really unbearable at this point. If anyone has any ideas as to why this is happening or what i can do to make it go away quickly i'd be very appreciative!

-Shannon
Posted 1/23/2013 1:56 AM (GMT 0)
I ordered Molybdenum too, but from a different site. Do you take that every day as well? I'm glad you are feeling stronger! That is great news! How exciting. And no herx is great too! :)
Posted 1/23/2013 1:58 AM (GMT 0)
shanna, I'm sorry you're feeling so bad. Does sound like it could be a herx or a Lyme flare. Lyme cycles every 4 weeks so it's common to flare every 4 weeks. Although, if you have co-infections, like Bart or Babs, that throws that flare cycle off (more frequent), fun times!

I just wanted to let you know that I had major stomach/GI involvement at the beginning of being ill-nausea, vomiting daily, abdominal cramping, bloating, and constant (like 500 times per day) belching. It turns out that it is from Bartonella, a lyme co-infection. about 1 week after going on Rifampin, which treats Bart, all of the GI stuff stopped. Then, last week, my LLMD had me take a 5 day abx. break due to severe pain and most of the GI symptoms started back up 4 days after stopping the abx. I restarted the Rifampin this afternoon and literally all of the GI stuff stopped 2 hours later. So, I'm just telling you this because I want you to know that Bart really affects the gut and can cause a lot of the symptoms that you're describing.

Also, I've read that Bart and Babesia are often the causes of low blood pressure and passing out.

Have you seen a LLMD? Can you get to one? Make sure that you are being evaluated and treated for co-infections as well as Lyme.

Hopefully you start to feel better on the Jernigan Protocol.
Posted 1/23/2013 7:27 PM (GMT 0)
I did not order the Lymogen yet, no. I ordered the first 2 months of supplements so, 2 bottles each of Borrelogen, Antitox, and Molybdenum. I don't have an LLMD per say, but my naturopath does have some experience with lyme. She is by no means an expert but is willing to research and learn and work with me.

I haven't been diagnosed with Bartonella although i'm sure it's a possibility. I wonder how crucial it is to start with the Lymogen with Bart. Maybe i'll email Dr. Jernigan and ask him.
Posted 1/23/2013 10:30 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for posting this thread. I'll try to follow it, as I'm going to Dr. Jernigan's clinic next week and will probably be taking some of the same things.

I'm new here and not always great about being on the internet, but feel free to ask me questions about treatment at the clinic next week. It's not a cheap undertaking, and I'd like as many people to benefit from it as possible.
Posted 1/23/2013 11:12 PM (GMT 0)
shannabanana- Good luck with your treatment plan. I can speak from experience that the Jernigan products are effective.

Ilexis- I just got back from spending 2 weeks at the Hansa Center with my brother-in-law. I saw improvements in patients there that I had not thought to be possible. I am really looking forward to your reports. Good luck with your treatments while there!

Don
Posted 1/24/2013 5:26 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks, Heathersdad. It is through reading some of the postings here, as well as reading Jernigan's book, that I decided to go.
Posted 2/11/2013 1:45 AM (GMT 0)
Hi guys!

Just wanted to post an update. So i finally got over whatever stomach bug/virus i seemed to have. It lasted 2+ weeks. Yikes. My MD said she's actually seen a few last 4+ weeks this year. Scary stuff.

Anyway, I started the Neuro-Antitox Basic a couple days ago. Dr. Jernigan recommends taking it for 1 week alone before adding in the Borrelogen so that is what I am doing.

Current Protocol:

Neuro-Antitox- 30 drops 3 x daily
Molybdenum- 150mcg 2 x daily
Probiotic- 50 Billion (1 capsule daily)
Magnesium Citrate- 150mg 4 x daily
Carlsons Fish Oil- 2 tsp daily
Vitamin D- 4000 IU daily
Vitamin C- 1000 daily
Vega Whole Foods Supplement- 1 scoop daily

Gluten-free and dairy-free diet. No preservatives. Avoiding refined sugars/grains and also avoiding soy and corn.

-Dry skin brushing daily.
-30 minute Infrared Sauna sessions 3 x weekly
-Dr. Jernigan's Detox Foot bath 3 x weekly
-Epsom/Hydrogen Peroxide baths 3 x weekly
-Recumbent Bike 30 mins 3 x weekly

I am seeing my ND through all this and she has recommended trying colonics once i start the Borrelogen to assist with eliminating toxins. Kind of scared to start them but i am determined to get better!

If anyone has any other ideas as to what else I should be doing please let me know! Looking forward to continuing this protocol and hopefully slowly seeing improvements :)

Hope everyone is having a good day!

-Shannon

Post Edited (shannabanana3) : 2/12/2013 8:44:46 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/11/2013 3:23 AM (GMT 0)
Hey Shannon!!! I'm anxious to see how things go for you as well! I've done colon hydrotherapy and have a session this week. You will feel CLEANED out! It's worth it! Just make sure you hydrate afterwards with water and stuff like coconut water to replace your electrolytes, lentil soup, nothing raw for like 3 days. My only thing is that I lost weight...I already got slim from the Lyme AMD didn't want to lose any more weight. But its for the greater good! Good luck and I have good feelings about your treatment!
Posted 2/11/2013 3:33 AM (GMT 0)
Umm yeah...stupid spell check. AMD should be AND lol.
Posted 2/11/2013 4:04 AM (GMT 0)
shannabanana,

As you probably know, my daughter went to the Hansa Center for treatment. Although much was accomplished at the clinic, she had to continue taking the Jernigan products for months afterwards. I have nothing but good things to say about my daughter's experience with those products and protocol. I am looking forward to hearing of great progress for you!

Don
Posted 2/11/2013 11:20 PM (GMT 0)
Shannab,

Welcome and thanks for you updates on the Jernigan protocol!

I went to Hansa in Oct. and am continuing on his neutraceuticals and other things he has put me on. Have gotten lots better and am really glad to have found him and the clinic. It has changed my life.

Good luck to you! If I were going to do something at home on my own, I would do his protocol for sure.

Take care,
N
Posted 2/12/2013 6:39 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for all the encouragement guys! I really appreciate it! Nan777, so glad to hear you have improved so much through Dr. Jernigan and his protocol. How exciting!

I have a couple questions for those of you who have been on it.

1. He recommends taking The TPP Protease by Transformation Enzymes. Wondering if anyone knows if it HAS to be this one or if another, such as Wobenzym would be okay? I have access to Wobenzym locally so this is why i ask. I believe he actually recommended it at one point...wonder why he doesn't anymore?

2. Were you guys on a Chelation supplement too (in his book he recommends Beyond Chelation). I am not on anything to chelate metals etc but it was my understanding that the Neuro-Antitox did that as well? Should i take something on top of this too though?

Any info would be great!

Post Edited (shannabanana3) : 2/12/2013 8:27:28 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 4/19/2013 2:43 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Shannon, how are you??? How is your progress going?
Posted 4/21/2013 11:00 PM (GMT 0)
shannabanana,

Dr. J. has written about this topic recently. Here is what he said:

"Wobenzym started the system enzyme revolution in medicine, but now there are many types of systemic enzymes that are way more effective. TPP-Protease works in a broader range of tissue pH and is about 20x greater fibrinlytic effect than Wobenzym, so you can use less with more effect."

Dr. J. is constantly trying to find better products and methods to treat his patients. I have observed this happening during the last 3 years since I first became aware of him and the Hansa Center. Dr. J. has apparently found TPP-Protease to be superior to its predecessor.

Don
Posted 3/8/2014 2:36 PM (GMT 0)
Does it matter what order to take them in? I've read different things on this. I tried 2oz bottles of Almerac, Neuro Basic and Borrelogen but finished those and don't know where to go from here. Also, I had just started back on Mepron, Doxy and Zith and was on Samento and Banderol (since on of these seemed to help with pain). I really don't want to stop abx and Sam/Band but at the same time I don't want to take too much.
Posted 3/8/2014 5:12 PM (GMT 0)
Just read this thread. It's an old one but I would like to add that TPP protease should not be taken if you are on mepron be because it contains CoQ10, which affects mepron's absorption.

A replacement I found is inflaquell by researched nutrionals. It's a proteolytic enzyme. It helps with biofilms just like TPP protease is recommended in Dr. Jernigan's book. From what I've read in the book, none of the Jernigan products address biofilms. So either TPP protease, inflaquell, samento + banderol, or lumbrokinase would have to be added to address these.

I love and hate this part of doing so much research. It's enough to make your head spin.
Posted 3/8/2014 9:42 PM (GMT 0)
My neuro symptoms are too bad to read his book. I've got Dr. Horowitz book and 2 of Buhner's but can't read them turn Thanks for the info on COQ10 and Jernigans products... not many people know that you can't take COQ10 it when on Mepron.

I'm thinking of adding Borreglogen, Lymogen and Microbojen (and maybe more) to what I listed above. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
Posted 3/8/2014 11:14 PM (GMT 0)
Can somebody give me more info on the Jernigan protocol? It has me confused. There seems to be no website? I wanted to order his book "Beating Lyme Disease" but it's like $80 on Amazon. Could that be right?

Okay, I stopped writing this post and did find a website I think. None of the herbs or whatever you wanna call them mention Babesia only Bart. What if you have babs? How much of the herbs do you take and for how long?

I would appreciate any info you guys can give me on this. It sounds promising and would like to get myself and my husband started on it.

Thanks!
Posted 3/9/2014 4:46 AM (GMT 0)
ncfitness, check out my thread that gives a quick summary of Dr Jernigan's book including recommended protocol:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3003430

To answer your question about all the supplements at once is it's complicated. I will be starting on borrelogen, lymogen, microbojen, virogen, pomifitrin, and yeast ease plus. This is NOT what is recommended in Dr J's book but his ex wife Sara owns Jernigan Nutraceuticals and it's recommended in there. She sells all the products and has her own protocol. You can get her free ebook at jnutra website I think. The only reason I'm trying this protocol with all supplements at once is because
after 7 weeks of a lot of supplements (including abx and others herbals) I haven't had any herx reactions and I know my body's pathways by now are good so I feel I could try it. If you have had herxes in the past or are sensitive to any treatment I would not recommend taking everything at once unless you feel your body could handle it.

Elleon the book is about $15 in ebook format from the Hansa Center's online store. Dr. J makes several references to babesia microti in his book. I believe borrelogen is made to handle this co-infection too.
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