LYME DISEASE created at Plum Island!? A must watch....

An investigation done by Jesse Ventura on the secrets of Plum Island:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ct5_5kzh_0

More Written information on Plum Island:
http://www.trutv.com/conspiracy/government-lies/plum-island/ secret-disease-research.html

I am astonished by this! Looks as though there may be a reason why lyme disease infected people are being mistreated and silenced. A must watch and read by anyone that has been affected by this disease.

We will never know for sure but the government does hide a lot of stuff!

Post Edited (LYME2013) : 5/17/2013 12:49:28 PM (GMT-6)

Yes, that video link above, where Jesse Ventura investigates Plum Island, explains all about that! I am not a conspiracy believer type of person nor do I like to jump to crazy conclusions. However, I felt that with the way everything is being kept so hush hush about lyme disease that this whole thing has to go a lot deeper than what meets the eye. It is obvious something is wrong when the doctor's are brainwashed to believe it does not exist, to never bring it up, and to not test for it. Instead, they constantly misdiagnose with symptoms of lymes. They have no clue that Lyme will break every rule in the 'disease' rule book. Lab tests look as though we are fine but we are not! Sounds engineered to me....

Post Edited (LYME2013) : 5/16/2013 11:57:44 PM (GMT-6)

Hi all,

Personally, I don't believe in the Plum Island conspiracy theory for as history shows, lyme bacteria (not called lyme back then) has been around for 1000's of years.  Below is a partial article from Wikipedia:

History:

"The evolutionary history of Borrelia burgdorferi genetics has been the subject of recent studies. One study has found that prior to the reforestation that accompanied post colonial farm abandonment in New England and the wholesale migration into the mid-west that occurred during the early 19th century, Lyme disease was present for thousands of years in America and had spread along with its tick hosts from the Northeast to the Midwest.^[190]

John Josselyn, who visited New England in 1638 and again from 1663–1670, wrote "there be infinite numbers of tikes hanging upon the bushes in summer time that will cleave to man's garments and creep into his breeches eating themselves in a short time into the very flesh of a man. I have seen the stockins of those that have gone through the woods covered with them."^[191]

This is also confirmed by the writings of Peter Kalm, a Swedish botanist who was sent to America by Linnaeus, and who found the forests of New York "abound" with ticks when he visited in 1749. When Kalm's journey was retraced 100 years later, the forests were gone and the Lyme bacterium had probably become isolated to a few pockets along the northeast coast, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.^[192]

Perhaps the first detailed description of what is now known as Lyme disease appeared in the writings of Reverend Dr John Walker after a visit to the Island of Jura (Deer Island) off the west coast of Scotland in 1764.^[193] He gives a good description both of the symptoms of Lyme disease (with "exquisite pain [in] the interior parts of the limbs") and of the tick vector itself, which he describes as a "worm" with a body which is "of a reddish colour and of a compressed shape with a row of feet on each side" that "penetrates the skin". Many people from this area of Great Britain immigrated to North America between 1717 and the end of the 18th century.

The examination of preserved museum specimens has found Borrelia DNA in an infected Ixodes ricinus tick from Germany that dates back to 1884, and from an infected mouse from Cape Cod that died in 1894.^[194] The 2010 autopsy of Ötzi the Iceman, a 5,300 year old mummy, revealed the presence of the DNA sequence of Borrelia burgdorferi making him the earliest known human with Lyme disease.^[195]

The early European studies of what is now known as Lyme disease described its skin manifestations. The first study dates to 1883 in Breslau, Germany (now Wrocław, Poland ), where physician Alfred Buchwald described a man who had suffered for 16 years with a degenerative skin disorder now known as acrodermatitis chronica atrophicans.^[196]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease

As far as any vaccines for lyme, there was a vaccine called LymeRix that was pulled off the market due to so many people getting sick from the vaccine when they didn't have lyme at all!

Keep in mind that the article below is from year 2000 about LymeRix:

http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/title/ticked-off

Sorry,but I too, am a disbeliever,Lyme has been around here in Europe for centuries.

As Opugirl pointed out ,its effects are too unpredictable to work as a form of weaponised bacteria, doesn't add up .

Very interesting info runner 64..Thank you! Personally, it feels as though the devil himself created this disease. It really couldn't be a more tricky, deceiving disease.

Post Edited (LYME2013) : 5/17/2013 1:03:42 PM (GMT-6)

It's definately at least a weaponized version of an old bacteria.
Both the Japanese and Germans during world war two were experimenting with tick born diseases. It was a **** scientist brought over by operation paperclip who headed up research at Plum Island. I don't believe for a second that they found the bacteria infecting people now in Iceman or from any other dated source. It's so easy to fabricate disinformation, or skew findings. Of course ticks have been around, but it was a new shocking disease that hit Lyme Conneticut in the 70's, there is no historic precedent. Strangely enough, many of the autoimmune diseases, tick born co-infections, and other strange diseases were discovered or started to appear in the 70's and 80's.

I completely agree with Opugirl and Magoo!

They certainly had the technology to hybrid, tinker with bacteria in the early 20th century. As said, the Japanese and Germans and probably others were creating bio-weapons during world war two. The notion that the technology didn't exist is simply not true. What technology was available to black budget projects would not be known publicly. And it most certainly was among others, Borellia that was being tinkered with, this is all documented if you want to take the time to research. Go where the evidence points.

Regarding obese children, decrease in health generally, lyme is infecting everybody healthy or not. There doesn't seem to be any skew towards those who are overweight or otherwise unhealthy, in fact there are many stories of people at the height of youth and health who become sick.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_warfare

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_warfare

I have really been enjoying this thread over the last couple of days, and have been thinking about what I may want to contribute to the discussion. My opinion is that everyone has made comments that are at least partially correct. If so, how do we harmonize all of the data that has been presented as the basis for opinions that are sometimes divergent in nature? I am going to present a few considerations that may help us to understand how everything may fit together to give us a clearer picture of the lyme mystery.

I agree with those that understand that there is nothing new under the sun. The borrelia bacterium itself is as old as man and all living things. Scientists are presently unable to "create" even the most simple of single cell organisms. You can forget about the polymorphic self-replicating, and complex genome of the borrelia bacterium. It aint gonna happen.

I am not a geneticist, but I can appreciate that horizontal gene transfer has always taken place in nature, and that man has now more recently learned to manipulate these genes. I believe that the **** scientists probably were not capable of gene splicing, but the point is that they had secret programs investigating the weaponizing of such microbes. We know that some of these scientists were brought to the US to work in our secret bio-weapon programs rather than to fall into the hands of the ruthless Soviets, as they were from many branches of science.

I am not concerned with precisely understanding whether borrelia and other microbes were studied at a particular lab in a particular year. Eastern Long Island and coastal Connecticut has the closest proximity to Plum Island (Lab 257) and was the epicenter for the outbreak of the illness in the early years (1970's) Furthermore in the 20th century, some rather significant scientific advancements were made in the top secret governmental sector, but never entered the public domain. I was told that fact by a PHD physicist that worked in one of our intelligence agencies. Hard and fast rules about when a particular technology emerged don't always apply here. When I read an article on the genetic work that was being performed in the early-mid 1970's, it is not hard for me to understand that a top secret government lab may have been just a step ahead of them at a slightly earlier time. Here is the link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering

So far I am just talking about possibilities- a theory. Another way of looking at things is to look at associations and the behavior of people. Dr. Allen Steere (IDSA) had associations with secret governmental research and was a very early and most prominent lyme researcher in the 1980's At that time he published articles stating that lyme was a serious illness and hard to treat. By the 1990's he had reversed his position stating that it was a hard to catch illness, and was easy to treat. Dr. Gary Wormser also had an association with top secret governmental labs, and is the head of the IDSA, and wrote their crazy inadequate treatment guidelines.

Willy Burgdorfer had worked at the Rocky Mountain Labs (level 4) and retired in 1986. When he was being interviewed for the Under Our Skin documentary, a security representative from the lab showed up to monitor the interview and to remind Willy that there were things that he can not talk about. Here is the link:

http://www.underourskin.com/news/lyme-discoverer-willy-burgdorfer-breaks-silence-heated-controversy

There are just too many associations between medical policy decision makers and secretive governmental entities to not raise the red flags. Some of these same people work as paid consultants for Big Pharma. So you have Government, Big pharma, and doctors forming a triad. Furthermore many of these same doctors are paid consultants to the insurance companies. Its not necessary for me to explain at this point, as you can see the picture. Here is another link by a non-medically trained person that helps us to see the picture better with additional information. Unfortunately the video and audio are both poor in quality, but please watch the whole video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wDZdA73C_M&list=PL4AF399DC0FA363C0

My guess is that our government had a role in the early days of manipulating the virulence of the illness, and that it is still involved in perpetuating/covering it up today- while offering little relief to those who are ill.

Don

This video by a reasearcher/Dr. dovetales well with Don's video, but the production is much better. This is a must see for anyone interested in this thread's topic. Really shocking stuff.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8OdKM1Z1EM

Thank you so much for your views and information posted on this controversial topic. I don't know enough about it to comment as well as others and I think there was enough written that my posting would probably be redundant anyway. I do want to say that, even though there are comments from everyone that is relevant and food for thought, I do agree with Runner, Tone, Bbrian, and Don.