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Posted 7/14/2013 2:08 AM (GMT 0)
http://www.scoop.it/t/the-full-discussion-babesiosis-dr-horrowitz
Posted 7/14/2013 8:12 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Razzle,

It is helpful to hear new statsistics  on lyme and its co-infections.

Anna

Posted 7/15/2013 11:40 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for posting this! I have so many questions on Babesia as I am still concerned that I may have it and on the fence about testing for it.

I have night sweats but they are not always drenching though, but no fever, no cough.
But I have had chills occasionally & fatigue almost daily (at diff. times of the day).
Muscle pain sometimes, and on one of my worst days I did have air hunger (needed to take a deep breath in order to talk) but not since.
Some good days/ bad days, most days have neck stiffness at some point.

Can't say if like he said, "symptoms are 3 times worse than a typical Lyme patient" or not as I have no one to compare myself to!

It's confusing to me also because night sweats are also listed as a symptom of Lyme...Lord help me!
Posted 7/16/2013 1:52 PM (GMT 0)
I had the drenching night sweats, chills, fevers, headaches, muscle aches, extreme fatigue and air hunger...I never understood what air hunger was but finally realized for me I get out of breath when I talk too much.

I too was not sure what was lyme what was co-infection but my LLMD's have tried to treat both with various combinations of medications the last two years. Currently being treated for Lyme and Babesia.

This interview was very interesting, thanks Razzle for posting it.
Posted 7/19/2013 10:28 PM (GMT 0)
I just finished watching this, WOW he is eye opening. Before I was diagnosed for Lyme I went through a two year period where I had a violent cough so bad that it sometimes made me throw up and I had sore ribs from coughing so much. I went to many specialists and none could help, they all put me on the same medications. After 2 years I got it under control with dietary changes but it would still rear it's head and last for weeks or months for the next 10 years. I'm wondering now if that was Babiosis.

I put myself on the waiting list to order his book, it's supposed to be out this September.
Posted 7/20/2013 11:12 AM (GMT 0)
same here regarding symptoms....I was not treated for Babs until about a year after lyme treatment then the LLMD suspected Babs...I was pretty frustrated.  I personally believe Babs should be treated first.

So since then I switched LLMDs and am mostly on herbals to treat Babs and within 6 weeks I am significantly better...the road was rough however. herxing is no fun as everyone knows.  So we still have a long road but you can get better and heal. You just have to find right treatment for you.  

With Babs especially you have to support especially your liver, spleen and kidneys....all have and still are significantly affected.

Posted 7/20/2013 2:38 PM (GMT 0)
ecotik, what are you taking to support your liver, speen and kidneys?

Patty
Posted 7/23/2013 12:51 PM (GMT 0)

Summer

When I really feel overload -- liver and spleen -- I take Buhner recommended herbs bonset and redroot. 

also, I am on milk thistle but alternate a couple weeks with a detox tea (dandelion).

My LLMD also has me on coconut oil, olive oil and then fish oil.

I am on a homeopathic detox formula and then the A-Bab has some herbs that support kid, spleen and liver.

Last nite I made a super wild green soup. Wow, excellent for the body. It has garlic, wild leek, curry, coconut oil and then add lamb quarters, dandelion, chicory, and burdock. .

Awhile ago there was someone on the forum (a veteren lymie) that said the bottom line with this disease and especially babesia is the support the 3 organ systems as well as lymph system.  and I agree. This will be my lifelong challenge but doable.

take care

Posted 7/23/2013 1:15 PM (GMT 0)
ecotick

Do you have a recipe for that soup?

Posted 7/23/2013 3:11 PM (GMT 0)

Sure..its actually part of an article from "Mother Earth Living", an article about Healing Weeds in the July/Aug issue.

Wild Greens Soup

1 medium onion (or wild leeks which I use) & 1 clove garlic (both chopped); 1 T veggie oil (I used coconut oil); 2 t curry powder; 2 C potatoes, 4 C tender wild greens (dandelion, chickweed, sheep sorrel, burdock and lambs quarters); 4 C water;1/2 t sea salt; 1/2 t fresh grd blk pepper; tamari to taste.

(BTW - I deviated from the magazine version -- In addition to the above, I added 2-3 T.maple syrup)

Saute onion and garlic in the oil until translucent;stir in curry and then add potato and greens saute briefly. add water and rest of ingredents and simmer for 15 min.  you can puree but I just served non-pureed. I like the texture and different flavors in each spoonful.

Most of the above greens help with detox and liver but they have other medicinal properties as well. Of course, garlic and onions have antibiotic properties.

Enjoy!

Posted 7/23/2013 3:38 PM (GMT 0)
Love Health - I too had the annoying cough which my pc md said was reflux!

I use Himalaya Liv. 52 for my liver support. No high levels since starting it...I also take milk thistle with it.
Posted 7/23/2013 4:52 PM (GMT 0)
Ecotick - Thanks for the recipe, sounds tasty and healthy

Flowergal - When I had that cough I went to at least 4 specialists, every one of them did the exact same treatment, with the same meds and the same lack of results. When I gave up dairy and started to get better that particular specialist got mad at me.

I'm not convinced I've kicked the Babesia since when they when I did the Igenix test last year I was positive to Babesia Duncani, but I did kick that cough!!! I really think my sauna did it, I knew the exact corner of my sinuses where the buggers were living. I could feel the tender spot and it showed up as an infection on a catscan of my sinuses. I would literally put my face into the corner of my sauna and fry those little buggers out.

Posted 7/24/2013 1:49 PM (GMT 0)
LoveHealth - Hah! do whatever it takes. I am so glad your cough and my cough is gone. I do the sauna too for detoxing...not so much in this heat but will again in cooler weather.

I went to several MD's too as the typical lyme infected person does...so frustrating to be told it is stress, your anxious, in the case of the cough you have reflux. Needless to say I do not have reflux thankfully that is one medication I no longer need to take!

Does the "positive" marker ever go away? Maybe it stays positive after it is treated..not sure.
Posted 7/24/2013 2:06 PM (GMT 0)
I don't know about the markers. I think after a decade or so of infection the best you can hope for is to get it to go into remission.
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