Is there a "Horowitz Protocol" the way there is a Cowden or Buhner Protocol? Book overwhe

If so, what is it?

I tried reading the book and taking notes, but there was just too much information, so I got bogged down.

I tried making an appointment, but he doesn't take new patients.

I know one of us said she would email her notes, but she probably had too many notes, or too many responses to her offer.

I'm trying the Buhner protocol, but while I wait to get supplements in the mail, and to get rid of traces of C. Diff., I can't help but wonder.

I know Horowitz disproves many of the protocols out there, but what does he propose to replace them with (excuse grammar)?

I saw something online regarding what Horowitz recommends, but it was kind of vague and confusing.

Margaret

Tera,

From my understanding it is a combination treatment plan using antibiotics, herbs (mainly Cowden, if not all) and supplements. It is tailored to the particular patient based of what infections they have. I too would love to see Dr. Harowitz, I think his approach to treatment is the most well thought out and advanced. It would be terribly expensive though!

LC

Path., at some level I think you're right, but the Cowden protocol worked really well for me. The thing is, I did act as my own doctor, and tailored Cowden to my own needs. Had I done Cowden the Cowden way, it would have been way too strong. It's lucky I know so much about my body and about Lyme. Then I had diarrhea, and had to stop. But I had so much more energy from just a few drops a day, it was unreal. I was able to cross country ski! I started taking control of my life, etc. etc. Now all that nice stuff is going away.

Now I'm trying Buhner, but the good thing is that I'm working with Buhner's herbalist, so she can help tailor Buhner to my own needs. She hasn't even put me on the Buhner protocol yet; she's addressing my other needs first. My guess is that she will adjust Buhner to my needs.

Lyme Contract, yes you're right; it would be expensive! But how do you tailor a book to your own needs? At least the Cowden protocol is clearly laid out.

Tick bite, my experience with LLMD PAs is that they're not so great. I have heard that both Dr. J's (DC) and Dr. P's (Raleigh) PAs are pretty awful. I also think doctors in general are so stressed, that they're hiring PAS and NPs out the wazoo, and many of those just don't know as much as doctors. Ok, I'm going to be a little old lady, and say, "In the good old days, when I was young, there were no NPs or PAs, the doctor had plenty of time, and you didn't need insurance, because it didn't cost much!" I don't mean to go off track, but in the 60s, I remember the doctor coming to our house with a good old black bag!

I like the fact that Dr. Ho has a comprehensive approach, but again, I'm really not sure how to use it. I guess I will try to skim through the book. It's on my old Kindle, so that makes it a little difficult.

There is no way I could take all the supplements he recommends. There are too many!!



PS, I hate C. Diff., and I can't believe it even exists (!) along with Lyme (!!!)

Margaret

I'm halfway through the book and I believe I was the one who said I would post a note summary a few weeks back just like the way I posted summaries for Dr. Jernigan's book Beating Lyme Disease and The Lyme Diet. I will eventually post a summary of all my markings throughout Dr. Horowitz's book. But like you said, this book contains an enormous amount of information.

He doesn't have a protocol that can be tried at home unfortunately since he prescribes antibiotics and a combination of other protocols as well (Cowden & Buhner). I was hoping he would make a Jernigan reference but it would almost completely contradict his book since Horowitz is trying to kill all the bugs with antibiotics and herbs while Jernigan is trying to restore the body so that it can naturally destroy the Lyme on its own.

That being said, there is a tremendous amount of useful material in this book! He goes through each symptom, disease, condition, etc. and talks about all the relevant testing and how he goes about treating patients. It's tough to explain right now, but hopefully in a week or two I can make it clearer.

Cppoly, hi, I can't take abx due to my history of c. diff.

Is there anything else you could summarize that doesn't involve abx? What other tools does he use?

Path, I don't see why you shouldn't name names. We've all been naming the protocol guys, like Cowden, Buhner, Jernigan, etc. I probably shouldn't have named Dr. H. though! Oops! I really wasn't thinking.

I understand why you're not a fan, bc for one thing the protocols cost tons of money, and I'm sure those folks already have a lot of money. I was suspicious of Cowden at first, bc the website looked too slick, and the products were very expensive. Plus there is some wacky religious stuff somewhere on the website. I also feel sorry for people who try to follow the advice word for word. Going full steam ahead into that protocol would be a huge load on your body.

But the d---ed stuff worked really well for me, though it would have taken me about 4 years as opposed to six months to get up to 30 drops of whatever twice a day. I figured even if I got up to five drops, I'd be fine. However, then the tummy rebelled, and there you have it.

So my LLMD recommended Buhner, and said he had gone to a lecture, and that Buhner, "knows his stuff." The good thing about his herbalist is that she is not at all expensive, esp. compared to LLMDs. Also, you can order the stuff on websites of your choosing.

As far as Horowitz, I think all of you are right, regardless. I was just hoping for a quick rundown of his policies, or some of the things he recommends for the majority of his patients.

Thanks for all your input! Margaret

You know really cppoly, you shouldn't worry about it, especially if it takes you two hours. Save your energy for something else.

I guess that's why the Cowden protocol works so well; it addresses all that stuff, ie biofilms, etc. etc.

There is no way I can ever use abx again; we don't get intestinal transplants, and the f. transplant wasn't enough. I know Ho. uses alternative medicine, so I was hoping I could learn something.

Oh well,

Thanks!

Margaret

Its the testing I love about horowitz and my own doctor. Alot of people here dont believe in tests, but I do.