Hooray! This Easter I feel like I am reborn and truly feel like I got my health back on track! 98%

as far as risk vs. benefit - if people on here have been healed or put into remission with just herbs - I would choose the herbs over toxic meds. That's just me. I've never taken a BCP in my life because I strongly believe a good percentage of women who have breast cancer have it b/c of the pills. It is right there in black and white in the package insert.

I am taking antibiotics and herbs, but won't go near flagyl, tindamax, or the flouroquinolones (Bc of the possible permanent CNS side effects and tendon rupture). At this point I am 90% better - just gotta figure out how to get rid of that last 10%!!!

Lymepickle - have you tried the herbal cyst busters yet? Like Grapefruit seed extract? What about Teasel root - I used to herx just when I took that!!

Good luck, and don't worry, you are close to the end, just don't get discouraged!!

about that point you made about birth control pills and breast cancer... I believe it! Actually it does something to breast tissue and I know 2 of my friends who take it that have large breasts. I thought it was because of the BCP.

Hi 1thawinston41

If you are getting lots of burning issues, it could be 1 of two things, either a herx or bartonella. Do you have any co-infections? So this treatment looks pretty broad spectrum and effective for Lyme, Bartonella, and Babesia. You might just be going through a steady herx right now. Make sure to do lots of detxoing, greens +, vega-one worked exceptionally well for me to detox. I also drank lots of lemon water and used pinella burbur parsley and sparga mixed in water. Lots of the lyme and bug toxins need to be pulled out in your stool so it is important to have lots of fiber in your diet to get the toxins out otherwise they can actually be reabsorbed in your intestines. Add bio-film treatments in like serrapeptase, nattokinase, or lumbrokinase is a good other step you might consider at this time.  I think the 'burning' you are getting is just a steady herx that will get better with time as you detox.

LymePickle-- Also,, I've been thinking about trying the IV ,being that my burning issues began prior to treatment ,, so I'm not convinced it's herx, may be neurological issue?,, thanx for responding!!!

Oh ok!!! Question did your Lyme text confirm with cdc standards, I only came positive for 3 bands. So my PC and family wants me to stop with whole Lyme thing!

Understood!!! If my Igenex text comes back with more positive bands would that make a difference being that I'm looking into IV treatment ??

I know!! It's seems like each treatment has it's own risk. And being that nerve issues have become life altering idk want else to do? I've heard people with nerve issues have a good outcome with IV treatment.

I had nerve issues too actually! The antibiotics I took got rid of all the issues I had!

You are going to herx either way, and cell wall drugs like rocephin used for IV treatments don't even treat intracellular infections (that is lyme bacteria inside of your cells) so to me there is really no point in using that form of treatment. Unless you are seriously beyond ill. Then maybe to start it would work.

I believe a combination of minocycline + tinidazole + plaquenil will get to virtually every tissue of your body, nerves, brain, prostate, AND inside of your cells. I now think the word should just get out there and this should be a kind of standard of treatment to completely treat Lyme disease. This is all you need, and this combo will work better than IV antibiotics, be less harsh on the kidneys and liver, and clear out your infection.

Tinidazole takes out biofilms, it's the #1 antibiotic for Lyme disease. It kills spirochetes, kills cysts, kills them intracellularly, and gets to all your tissues. What is more to ask. So you add in minocycline which has the best tissue penetration of all of either tetracycline drugs or macrolides. This gets into all your nerve cells. So now you got the number 1 support antibiotic. Now you add in plaquenil and poof, the lyme is gone.

I just had a follow up appointment with my lyme literate doctor and he said the following:
1. Minocycline is better than doxy because it has far more superior tissue penetration, it works exactly like doxy in that it binds to bacterial ribosomes preventing them from making proteins. Minocycline is the best drug to treat inside of nerves
2. Tinidazole is hands down absolutely far more superior to metronidazole. It takes out virtually all of biofilms.
3. I asked him if he had Lyme disease how would he treat it? He said he would treat it just the way I am treating it.

Plaquenil just becomes an added measure. But this ALSO penetrates all tissues and crosses into the brain and makes the mino work much better! It also creates an uncomfortable environment inside of cells for lyme because of the raise in pH.

Also he said there is no worry at all for tinidazole damaging chromosomes because this was tested in mice at very high concentrations for long periods of time. He said it's not a concern.

His only concern was to make sure my kidneys, liver, and blood count are good.

Anyways I think this should just be a standard for lyme treatment personally. Lots of doctors are now saying doxycycline + flagyl or tinidazole right off the bat for initial infections.

Post Edited (LymePickle) : 5/1/2014 8:23:03 PM (GMT-6)

yeah, my LLMD told me last month that if I still have symptoms at my next visit, which is next week, she is switching me off doxy - she wanted to put me on ceftin but I am allergic =(
so I think amoxil is the best bet at this point, I am nervous though, I hope amoxil just picks up where doxy left off!!
I am taking al complex and teasel root and a biofilm buster so I think I have the cyst forms of lyme covered.

interesting - another 2-4 months of treatment? only herbs or everything?

my doc is expecting me to be symptom free by the summer, so I am hoping to be off the abx by the fall - but I would guess I will be on herbs for a while.

do you think we will still have to be strict with the antilyme diet once we sort of "beat" lyme or will this be forever???

This really sounds great !!! Im hoping my next visit to my LLMD this information can be useful. Because I'm really not convinced this the right treatment I'm on right now. Also my LLMD doesn't suggest detoxing at all. So this is a little bothering ! Thinking I may change my doctor smh

Winston - you are going to way too many!! gotta stick with one! =)

wow! 4-6 months for bart? ugh!! well, at least I wont have to worry about doxy and the sun anymore - so if its another 6 months or so for me, at least I can go to the beach this summer wearing my bikinis! LOL

oh and hey, I started exercising this week! I need to post the info - have you given it a shot yet??