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Posted 10/16/2014 10:09 PM (GMT 0)
Hi all!

I have massive GI problems due to yersiniosis, therefore I am unable to take oral ABX (it causes terrible pain, nausea, cramp, and diarrhea).
My doc thinks that IV ABX also not a good choice as it raises the ABX concentration systematically (also in the stomach-gut), and irritates it. I think that it cannot harm as much as the oral one, as the oral pill phisically irritates the stomach-gut tissue directly in big concentration.
What do you think about it? Does somebody have experience with sensitive stomach and IV ABX?
Posted 10/16/2014 10:36 PM (GMT 0)
When I was on the 2 grams of rocephin, I was getting very nauseated. My doc cut it down to 1 gram a day and said to still eat with it to prevent stomach upset. They also said I could take an over the counter Dramamine if the upset continued. So far, so good.
Posted 10/17/2014 4:02 AM (GMT 0)
Good question.

I had C. Diff., and I'm staying away from all abx for now (except for herbal ones), but, having said this, I've heard that IV abx have the highest success rate.

I think nausea can come from a nasty herx.

Margaret
Posted 10/17/2014 10:13 AM (GMT 0)
Uh, C.Diff is also a nasty one!

Rachel did you have any GI issues prior to rocephin?
Posted 10/17/2014 1:32 PM (GMT 0)
I have autoimmune atrophic gastritis, my stomach lining is gone for the most part. I've also been prone to ulcers. My stomach always cramps, but nothing severe.

I feel just awful for anyone that has had C Diff! It sounds just awful!
Posted 10/17/2014 5:03 PM (GMT 0)
Rachel,

Has anyone recommended DGL or Zinc Carnosine to you for your stomach? It won't stop the inflammation, but these supplements can help your gut heal more quickly.

And there are some who believe that autoimmune diseases in general are caused by some kind of stealth infectious organism. In the case of atrophic gastritis, h. pylori would be a prime suspect...
Posted 10/17/2014 5:28 PM (GMT 0)
Razzle,

I actually haven't heard of those! I'll look into it. I was also thinking of taking HCL and HCL activator. Have you heard of those?

My doc thinks that the Lyme exacerbated the condition, but most likely I've had the condition since birth, since it takes so much time to completely atrophy (20-30 years) and I'm 31. He said Lyme pushed it into pernicious anemia by depleting my b12. Ugh!
Posted 10/17/2014 5:36 PM (GMT 0)
Margaret, how are you doing on the herbal abx's? I chose to go that route because of the severity of my symptoms, my doctor didn't want me to take IV or oral until my gut and lungs got a little better, Ive seen some improvement and I am considering trying IV treatments when I can. But I really want to stay natural. But I am also hearing that IV treatments are much more effective.
Razzle, thank you for the stomach recommendations, I need to come on here more so I can learn about all these great options.
Rachel, (that's my name too), have you tried turmeric for inflammation? It's hard to find organic turmeric but it has been helping my inflammation enormously. Also ginger soothes my stomach a lot. I just put it into every smoothie.
Posted 10/17/2014 5:57 PM (GMT 0)
Rachel,

I would not take HCl if I were you, not until your stomach lining has healed at least somewhat...
Posted 10/17/2014 9:20 PM (GMT 0)
Like I said, I'm a C. Diff. survivor.

My ND is a digestive specialist.

THIS is my tummy protocol, for anyone who's interested: Digestive enzymes (I use Enzymedica before each meal), Swedish Bitters, Apple Cider Vinegar, and 1/4 tsp. liquid pure licorice (not DL). All this before each meal.

Florastor (S. Boularrdi) and a probiotic that's in the billions with multiple strains.

Zeolite.

A semi-paleo diet.

It works (!) and my ENT doc says my GERD is gone! He said keep up with the herbs!

For anyone who wants her name, she's in NC, but she does Skype appointments (all over the world) and she has published a book with lots of recipes. She's in Winston-Salem.

Margaret
Posted 10/18/2014 1:33 AM (GMT 0)
I'm totally interested, especially if she does Skype appointments. I just started see a new LLMD, who specializes in integrated medicine. Just had an appointment where we went over my symptoms and doing an anti-inflammatory diet. Waiting on some test results before we proceed further, but I would like her contact information. I've always been the type to get a second opinion.
Posted 10/18/2014 2:29 AM (GMT 0)
Her name is Dr. Jillian Sarno Teta, but I think you can find her under Dr. Jillian Sarno. She's in Winston Salem, NC. The title of her book is, "Natural Solutions for Digestive Health," (by Teta/Bessinger). She is NOT an LLND.

Now, who is your LLMD? Most LLMDs don't specialize in integrative medicine, though some do.

Margaret
Posted 10/18/2014 11:09 AM (GMT 0)
Cool thanks. I definitely want to check out the book out. It looks good. Is it okay if I email you that information. i don't think she's one of those who is trying to hide the fact that she's treating lyme, but just in case.
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