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Posted 1/13/2015 2:33 AM (GMT 0)
I'm up to 30 drops of banderol and samento and had been tolerating the protocol fairly well up until last Saturday. My severe low back pain is back with a vengance. I am wondering if I should drop back on the banderol and samento for a bit. I've been taking Pinella and burbur to try to detox but it isn't helping. And sorry for this little detail, but I also have severe gas.

I'm not sure if it's a herx or not. I've had this severe pain in the past and never was able to determine exactly the cause. It seems like it's joint and muscle pain.

Can anyone tell me what they've done in a similar situation, or if you've also experienced the severe low back pain?

Oh, and I got my doctor to fill out the forms, so I'm really hoping they qualify me for the discount. I find out tomorrow.

Thanks!

Post Edited (Boxermomtoo) : 1/12/2015 7:38:47 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/13/2015 3:38 AM (GMT 0)
I'll be starting Cowden next month and have been reading through the program literature.

Based upon the program instructions, someone in your situation should be following the herx detox schedule and, if symptoms still exist by the time of the next microbial dose, it's to be skipped.

Good luck with the discount application!
Posted 1/13/2015 4:02 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks cd3764. I did read that in the literature. I am going to see how I feel in the morning and if still herxing I'll skip the next dose. Again, I'm just not sure if it's a herx. I really believe it is, but oh boy the pain is so severe!

Good luck to you on the protocol!
Posted 1/13/2015 12:03 PM (GMT 0)
I understand the wondering whether or not something we experience is a herx.

One of the many things I like about the Cowden protocol is the instructions lol

Seriously though, everything is laid out for easy understanding and I just love the schedule you can print out to keep track of the daily doses.

Based upon what I'm copying and pasting from the Nutramedix site, it sounds like you should be viewing your experience as a herx, boxermomtoo:

"If HERX reaction is suspected (feeling worse in any way than you were before) take 10 drops...."

So sorry about the pain and I sure hope it's gone by the time you read this.

Thanks for your good wishes!
Posted 1/13/2015 4:32 PM (GMT 0)
I had severe back pain as a herx from a different herbal product, so yeah, I think it's safe to say that's what your pain is.
Posted 1/15/2015 1:04 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks, Sarahm620. The back pain always puts me into a panic wondering if I should have tests run for my kidneys. I had my primary doc run bloodwork a few months ago and he said it was all good. :)

I really need to find a LLMD or at least Lyme aware doc who can oversee my care while on Cowden.
Posted 8/3/2016 12:44 AM (GMT 0)
I have been chronically ill 23 years after having massive amounts of intravenous, oral and IM injections.
I am about ready to give up and I just saw your post. I am on cowden and it is now day 18 or 19. I have had such a day from hell that if the pain in my mid back got any worse I was going to go to the hospital. I tolerated the protocol pretty well up until now.
When I first got sick with lyme that mid thoracic joint area always caused me pain which would radiate along the nerve on the right around the chest. The only other joints affected was my right toe which shows degeneration which started years ago and my knuckles on both hands swell. I had pain on occasion in hips and knees but no degeneration of the joints which shows in my mid spine and toe.
I don't know if this is a herxheimer or not. I am about ready to take bedtime dose and pray for a better tomorrow. How did you make out on the protocol?
Thanks
Posted 8/3/2016 1:51 AM (GMT 0)
Unfortunately it didn't "cure me" the way I so wished it would. I stopped after 9 long months and now I'm working on straightening out my iron, copper, magnesium and ceruloplasmin. I follow the Magnesium Advocacy group on FB and the advice of the Modulator Morley Robbins. I feel like I am on the right path.

I honestly believe my low back pain is from a whiplash injury though. I am still plagued by that pain every single day!
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