Need your help with further treatment

I'd say that first you should find out what herbs are allowed in your country. I have family and friends in Europe and I know there are restrictions. You don't want to have it sent back and possibly lose money> Second, you should find out what herbs would work better for your symptoms. Were you diagnosed with lyme and/or? Then someone that knows herbs here a lot better than me, can give suggestions.

Find out what you can get into your country, how much you can spend, how much the fees over there are across border and shipping and then maybe we can help. I'm sorry, this is tough on all of us, but if we are not happy with a dr at least we can go to another. Why can't you shop on ebay in US? and only in UK and Germany? I used to sell all over the world with a US account. Is it because restrictions to your country? I hope this helps!

I am not very familiar with any of the herb products because I didn't use them myself. I am buying today all of the ones that everyone is using here. Crazy, I know! But I have to try them all! See what works. Since there are at least 3 of us affected by tick borne diseases and quite possible immediate family members including my mom, I know I will use them.

THe only ones I used and you should also incorporate in your protocol is garlic (it has amazing properties, it is a natural antibiotic), cilantro--if you can't find it use parsley--it is an amazing detoxing agent, Epsom baths--it has magnesium and will help you with the pain. Quite possibly you can find Turmeric, which is also good for pain. There are lots of people here using specific herbal protocols. Yes, olive leaf is good as far as reading about it, many people use it. But I didn't so I can't comment because I don't know exactly what is for, but I have it on my list, so I will buy it LOL.

If you do have co-infections, there are specific herbs that are used for those. Did you visit the "new to lyme" thread? I think it would be a good idea to look at ALL symptoms because you may not realize there are other symptoms that you have and you just didn't realize.
I think since you don't have a dr right now, you should do the best you can to try to see if you missed something and you have a co-infection. People that have co-infections don't get rid of Lyme until they treat the confections too.

Also, to give you an idea of the specific herbs for specific infection, you can read on here http://www.buhnerhealinglyme.com/
a lot of people are using his protocol--scroll down when you visit the website and read on.

So if I were you, I would start with the new to lyme thread to try to identify WHICH tick born diseases you have, since your dr. only looked at lyme. That is a big mistake! BOth me and my son and many other here were first treated for lyme, only to have the symptoms return years later because, we were not treated for Bartonella and we were infected with both.

My friend from Europe also uses propolis. It is a natural antibiotic and you can probably get it there. Try to identify your symptoms and make sure you are not missing something. Often times ticks carry multiple diseases. The success of the treatment depends on addressing ALL of them. Both olive leaf and knotweed root are great products but they may not be enough. Keep on reading here, you will find a lot more! There may be places in your country that sell similar products. You'd be surprised! My friend from Europe found all kinds of things and she was in bad shape, had multiple bell's palsy on multiple occasions and a whole bunch of other problems. She contacted a biologist or a herbalist in her country and he helped her find plants there. No doctor could help her. They had no idea what was wrong with her. She was sick for 40 years but she kept afloat with whatever she could find. She still works full time and her job is physically demanding. Not sure about wild oregano oil, but Oregono is GOOD, use it in your cooking or make a tea with it, same with cilantro, grape seed--never heard of that one, but a lot of people use grapefruit seed extract or oil? not sure which, and olive leaf extract or olive leaf--the actual leaves are good--I am buying the leaves and make tea or tinctures out of it. There are older threads here about how to do that. There is also a lot of info on line. Traveler is making a lot of things in her kitchen herself. That way she saves money. Since money is an issue, you can do the same, if you are able to put in the time and effort. There must be some places that you can buy herbs is Serbia!

God gave us all the stuff we need, every country has something. I'm sure there are things in your country that can help you heal but you just don't know about them yet. There may be on a mountain or it may be a plant in a forest you have already seen--you just didn't know what it was :)

Make a connection with God, He will help you heal! You have a lot of saints in Serbia :)

Sorry, I am going to check out, hobby will pass out when he sees the bill, LOL Keep coming back, we'll help you find some stuff, don't give up! A word of caution, if you do buy pills, make sure they don't have any bad stuff in them. That's why I decided to get herbs instead. Be strong, and don't give up! I can ask my friend what she is using. She is from ROmania and the situation is not any better there. Here is another link that you may find interesting http://www.buhnerhealinglyme.com/category/basics/tinctures/

**You may post links here from ebay for products that you are interested to find out about, but we are not allowed to post products to sell ourselves or name of doctors.

Yes! Cat's claw, Eleuthero are important and are also a part of Buhner's Lyme protocol. And you can add in Ashwagandha if you are having sleep issues or brain fog (according to Buhner).

Using the link that you provided for the UK Ebay, I was able to find each of those things - although I have to admit that I don't understand the currency differences or who has a reliable product, so I'll leave that up to you!

Turmeric is good when combined with ginger as an anti-inflammatory, and since Lyme bacteria create inflammation, it's a must for me.

Well, samento is an extract of cat's claw. I prefer to use the "whole herb" as apposed to an extract of the herb - I've discovered that my body does better with the 'whole herbs'.

Eleuthero is also known as Siberian Ginseng, although it's not a "true" ginseng - it's an adaptogen that can help with adrenal fatigue, chronic stress, pain, raising the immune function and some other things. Here are three websites that I often turn to for information on herbs:
www.anniesremedy.com/herb_detail288.php

altmedicine.about.com/od/herbsupplementguide/a/Eleuthero.htm

umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/siberian-ginseng

And lastly, although I'm not using Buhner's protocol, the herbs that he suggests for Lyme are in the protocol that I use, including Eleuthero.

I ordered Cat's claw as a herb and I am waiting for it to come in the mail.

The link you provided is a company that is know here. You can find it selling on Amazon. When buying from ebay make sure the reputation of the seller is impeccable. Anyone can sell on ebay and you can buy counterfeit products. It is much better to purchase directly from the company. Make sure you read the ingredients as some of the products that come in pills have bad ingredients. Most of us here try not to add anything else bad to our situation. Research the product, the company and the seller, carefully, before making your decision on buying from ebay.

Even if you buy from ebay, go to amazon.com and research the same product. Look at questions and answers and the negative reviews. If any customer had a problem with the product or with the ingredient, it is usually listed there. Yeah, it's a lot of work, but it's your money!

Trav:
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, You are right. I thought so too. I just gave her the word of caution in general for future references. It wouldn't be nice if one of ours would get scammed on line while on a limitted budget, with no dr, and not many options to get stuff! Yes, this seller does look good. And the company didn't start it's business yesterday and made some fake pills LOL That's sort of the word of caution I was trying to give her. I agree with you that it's definately better than nothing. :) I write late of night and I am usually half asleep LOL

Simela1 said...
Trav:
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, You are right. I thought so too. I just gave her the word of caution in general for future references. It wouldn't be nice if one of ours would get scammed on line while on a limitted budget, with no dr, and not many options to get stuff! Yes, this seller does look good. And the company didn't start it's business yesterday and made some fake pills LOL That's sort of the word of caution I was trying to give her. I agree with you that it's definately better than nothing. :) I write late of night and I am usually half asleep LOL

thank you very much for you kind advice and it means a lot. because it makes me feel less lost in all this mess that this disease brought up. also im a guy, as i see that you refer me as a female all the time lol

Simela1 said...
lol Yes, I assumed you are female, sorry!

Try to see if you can find echinacea. My sister leaves in Europe and she is giving it to her daughter who was complaining about leg pains. She was bit by a tick a long time ago. She is now pain and symptom free and one of the brightest students in the country preparing for med school. I hear Echinacea augustifolia is better but she couldn't find it and she got the purpura instead, but it worked well. She gets it in a tincture from the pharmacy... I think you can find stuff in your country, but it takes a bit of work. Some plants are known by several names. For example, many people use Pinella:

http://www.amazon.com/Nutramedix-Inc-Pinella-Brain-Nerve-Cleanse/dp/B003JP2PXS/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1422872207&sr=1-1&keywords=pinella

You may not be able to find the product, but if you look at the description, it says: Pinella bark extract (Pimpinela anisum). Then if you still don't know what it is, you look it up and it is anise seed, which you can probably find, grind, and make an infusion or tincture yourself. And the seed is probably cheap, too.

Best of luck!

Ive just purchsed olive leaf extract and cats claw and is this what you are taling about:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Echinacea-Pururea-Tablets-3-000mg-Immune-Support-60-120-240-360-/181118766585?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Vitamins_Supplements&var=&hash=item2a2b850df9