Adrenal fatigue

I was on meds already when I found out I had adrenal fatigue so I can't commit on that part but now I use Adren-plus for adrenal support from abx herxes. My body gets really really worn down. It works pretty good to give me a boost.

Jackie Moon- what do you use for adrenal support? Are you on an herb sort of protocol? If so what?
Borderlyme- did you use some sort of adrenal support during that time?

I'm considering talking to my doctor about stopping the abx and just focusing on the adrenal fatigue because this is just wiping me out. But I'm also frightened of allowing the lyme, and perhaps what I'm beginning to suspect is babesia, to dig in deeper.
I must be driving my dr mad with calling her on every little thing, she is extremely patient with me but still. But the herx is just so upsettingly strong sometimes. Maybe I should just continue to ride it out?

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I know what you mean. Did your doctor tell you to take pregnenolone at all? It's a precursor to a lot of different hormones that the body makes especially sex hormones. Apparently the body converts progesterone into cortisol as needed. Also I've been reading a lot today about how diet will effect the adrenals.
Basically cut out sugars and starches, processed food and caffeine.
Eat a lot of protein and healthy fats (nuts, avocados, lean meats)
up your salt intake.
rest when you need to (sleep is especially important, like 9-10 hrs a night for ppl with adrenal fatigue, but for me I can only sleep 3 to 4 hours a night, which is actually really early in the morning lol)

I've also been reading today that a lot of adaptogen herbs will actually make adrenal fatigue worse in the end. You get a little boost like you do with caffeine but it drains on your adrenals. So you might want to be careful with that. I've also read that they are fine to take (how very confusing everything is), but I personally am beginning to think that it would be best if I just avoided them.

As for migraines have you tried to eat more ginger? It's best fresh, so you might want to stock up on it. I used to get them when I was younger and the only thing that helped was ginger lots of ginger. Also avoiding caffeine, chocolate and cheese helps. Keep to an antiinflamitory diet might quiet it down a little. Maybe also look into turmeric?

When I first got sick I was diagnosed with Hashimotos, but since I've been taking my abx I no longer have to worry about it, my thyroid was chock full of lyme, the swelling went down and my dr told me to stop taking the armour I was on.

I hope that you find something that works for you. I know how difficult this is. It's eating away at me too, but now I'm going to go full self care mode, I hope you will too. :)
Sarah

Thank you Sarah. That's a lot of good info. So I wonder if the Rhodiola is making me feel worse instead of better? Obviously, caffeine is out. It just makes me sick anyway.

GABA gives me migraines as well; not sure about Kavinace.

I wish I could take pregnenolone, but I can't because I have a history of breast cancer. I also had a partial ovarian ablation, so my hormones are basically gone. I use Evening Primrose Oil, a little wild yam ointment, progesterone spray, and DHEA.

I had both Hashimoto's and Graves, and had to have my thyroid removed, but now, my levels are proving to be very difficult to regulate.

This is going to sound ridiculous, but while I used to have insomnia, I now sleep about 12 hours a night, and I'm still really tired all day.

I do all the diet stuff, and I now know that I have to eat all day long, or I become too hypoglycemic. The thing is, I really don't have much of an appetite, despite the hypoglycemia, so in the long run, I don't eat that much--basically just a large smoothie in the morning, and a bunch of snacks.

I really hope I find a solution soon, because all I feel like doing is going to bed, and it's not depression; it's fatigue. I went through a period of grief and loss, and I still have episodes of those feelings, but I'm basically too tired to be depressed.

I do miss a lot of the things I was doing even three to four months ago, and I thought things were bad then!!

Margaret

Margaret- It sounds to me like you should go in for more blood work, like a holistic dr who will look you over top to bottom, mental and physical. If your doctor isn't giving you the answers you need then you should look for another.(yes I know how expensive these can be because you usually have to pay out of pocket, which I am currently doing, but I figure that when I get better which I WILL, I'm going to be able to get a job again and pay them) I'm not saying that your dr isn't any good, they just might not be right for you, or lack experience or even knowledge and they will just throw antidepressants at you or something saying "take those". There has to be someone out there that can help you.

I'm sorry you had to go through a thyroidectomy and breast cancer! Now I see at the bottom of your post that you are going through much more than that! You must be one tough cookie. :)

What are you on for thyroid? are you on T3 &T4 or are you exclusively T4. Because I know that when I was treating my Hashi's I used Armour with both because my body was having trouble with converting the t4 into t3, perhaps this is your problem? Unfortunately a lot of drs won't prescribe it because it is "old fashioned" as if you need something hip and fashion forward for your hormones? Though I'm of the school if it's not broken don't fix it.
Please don't stop looking for the help you need.
sarah

Help the most with what? getting comfortable when I'm wiped out?

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As far as I can tell all of them, Main ones being ashwanghanda, rhodlia, licorice, tulsi tea, and panax ginseng. (I probably spelled some of those wrong, please forgive me!) They all have a stimulating effect which will give a boost at first, apparently the worse your adrenal fatigue the more you will notice an increase in energy, but then they cause the adrenals to be over stimulated and putter out.
This is just from furiously sifting through internet available info for the last few months, so I can't say with any certainty that it is true, but I like to approach all supplements and herbs with caution.

Wildmoonchild_5 said...
Jackie Moon- what do you use for adrenal support? Are you on an herb sort of protocol? If so what?
Borderlyme- did you use some sort of adrenal support during that time?

I'm considering talking to my doctor about stopping the abx and just focusing on the adrenal fatigue because this is just wiping me out. But I'm also frightened of allowing the lyme, and perhaps what I'm beginning to suspect is babesia, to dig in deeper.
I must be driving my dr mad with calling her on every little thing, she is extremely patient with me but still. But the herx is just so upsettingly strong sometimes. Maybe I should just continue to ride it out?

I use Adren Plus. It's just a supplement you can get anywhere. I get a boost from it which is good cause I am always SO worn out. My LLMD recommended it.

This looks like a good video on adrenals. Haven't finished watching it.

http://drhedberg.com/how-to-overcome-adrenal-fatigue-video/

You're welcome.

I think the runny nose could be Myco.; I'm not sure. It's possible that pollen is starting to blow up the mountain from the valley, or that the leaves outside are moldy (things were frozen before).

I'm starting to wonder if my dogs dug up my crocuses :(

I'm going to try a professional tomorrow, but if he doesn't believe in Lyme and cos, I might have to give up on that pursuit.

I think I need bed rest and vigilance regarding the adrenals.

I think those supplements you mentioned may have ingredients that provoke migraines, since most adrenals supplements do in me (rhodiola is the best one).

Thx., and sorry to hijack your thread wildmoon. Margaret

I started on herbals as well. This was before I knew I had Lyme and was told I "just" had adrenal fatigue. I took: Ashwadhanga, rhodiola, and Siberian ginseng (eulethero). I also tried Isocort, which is over the counter cortisol. I probably gave it close to a year on these and never felt any better, but I never felt worse either.

I then tried 20 mgs a day of bioidentical cortisol. It never helped me either. It was then discovered that I have Lyme. I'm currently weaning off the cortisol since I figure it's not helping anyway.

Margaret, there might be pollen from conifers causing an allergic reaction in you.