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Is there any benefit of taking lumbrokinase, nattokinase, & Serrapeptase all together?

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Posted 4/10/2015 8:17 PM (GMT 0)
I know most people usually take one f o r biofilms. Would combining these be more effective.

I was thinking about trying at least lumbro and Serrapeptase together but wasnt sure if it was overkill.

Is Doctors Best a good brand? I noticed they make a natto+Serrapeptase combo.
Posted 4/10/2015 9:53 PM (GMT 0)
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Posted 4/10/2015 11:19 PM (GMT 0)
I don't think it is a good idea to "start out" taking a bunch of biofilm busters at once. You could have a huge, huge herx. They are supposed to attack the biofilms in different ways. So, you could start with one and move to another after a while.

I'm supposed to start Nattokinase. I ordered the Doctor's Best Natto-Serra blend. So, I hope I don't herx too badly! Lumbrokinase is supposed to be the most heavy duty, but they all work differently. You should ask your doc which one he or she thinks is good for you. I am starting with the Natto-Serra and then I will move to Lumbrokinase. So, a lot of people say Lumbro is the way to go, but I think that they all work in different ways.

Good question! Hopefully, you will get some more opinions. There are some really good threads on this subject here if you do a search.
Posted 4/10/2015 11:29 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah I've been taking Jarrow Nattokinase for the past 2 months. Im wanting to try lumbrokinase because its supposed to be the strongest like you said. Id like to add Serrapeptase for the anti-inflammatory properties.
Posted 4/11/2015 12:03 AM (GMT 0)
Phew! I thought you were going to start all 3 at once. Haha.

I made the decision to take the Natto and Serra together. After that, I'm going to stop and take the lumbro. You can check with your doc. I don't think you need to take all 3 at once. I think it would be sufficient to rotate.
Posted 4/11/2015 3:25 AM (GMT 0)
I take Natto, Sera, and Astrogalus. They have never been a problem.
Posted 4/11/2015 7:38 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks JRPSF! I tend to take a low and slow approach since I herx. I start one thing at a time. That way, it is much easier to tell if I have an issue with a particular med or supp. I will stay optimistic.
Posted 4/12/2015 12:01 AM (GMT 0)
I have been wondering the same thing. I currently am taking Doctor's Best Serrapepetase, and am on my third week in addition to my abx. I have noticed absolutely nothing from it and am wondering if I need to upgrade to something else.
Posted 4/12/2015 12:07 AM (GMT 0)
I also take Chlorella. My LLND wrote out what each did when he first put me on them.
I can look for the shset later but the concept was along the lines of : one breaks down biofilms, one clears them away, one helps them get through your system and so on.
In the most basic layman's terms they are all part of an assembly line.
Posted 4/12/2015 12:32 AM (GMT 0)
That would be great JRPSF! I think it would help a lot of people.

I have been reading up on them trying to figure it out. That info would be very helpful. If you can't find it, no worries. Thanks. :)
Posted 4/12/2015 12:51 AM (GMT 0)
I am taking serrapeptase and was herxing so much I had to back off to every other evening. I'm taking it more so for the MTHFR 677 double mutation, it was suggested on the mthfr.net website.
Posted 4/12/2015 1:31 AM (GMT 0)
Revive,

How long were you taking Serrapeptase before you began to Herx? A couple days, weeks?
Posted 4/12/2015 1:35 AM (GMT 0)
Jrspf,

I agree with Lymie. If you could post that info, I think we would all find it extremely helpful.
Posted 4/12/2015 5:01 AM (GMT 0)
For Biofilm Treatment:
Serrapeptase 120,000 SPU's
Nattokinase 2,000 FU's
1 Capsule twice daily on an empty stomach 90 minutes before food

Cleaners-To clear system of the Biofilms.
Chlorella 1500 mg
Astragalus 470 mg X 3
Take one serving size each twice a day ok with food.

I get an instruction sheet at every appointment. Above is what the instruction sheet say's from the appointment when my LLND started me on these. I started them all at the same time. I don't remember if I had any issue.

From what I read I do yhink that they are key to getting well. If my LLND had not addressed these I was going to look in to going to a stay at clinic. I've been on much higher and longer pulses than anything I've read on here and do not have candida or a leaky gut. I'm on the Pekena products for detox and I know from my blood work and how I feel that they have made a significant difference (renalex, apo-hepat, iteres, and three others which help with inflammation, mineral absorption and electrolyte balance and fluid excretion). I rarely take Epsom salt baths because of the drought in California. I have a Jacuzzi tub in my bathroom and can't justify that much water usage.
Posted 4/12/2015 5:38 AM (GMT 0)
JRPSF:

Thanks for posting this!

The Epsom salt baths that my kids took added $90 on our water bill! Yes, if we were in California that would be a problem. So, yes, that is an issue! I'm wondering if the $90 can be spend on something else to do the above and detox more effectively. We are already using Chlorella and Astragalus. Do you take the Chlorella and Astragalus together?

Thanks!
Posted 4/12/2015 6:17 AM (GMT 0)
To be honest I take everything together including my abxs.
I was to sick at the beginning to remember to take pills at different times. It's worked just fine.
My pulses have been 3 weeks on of high dose Tindamax.
I'm now on Biaxin, Rifampin and pulsing Alinia 20 days on and 10 days off. Tindamax was a breeze in comparison but I am a firm believer in no pain no gain and with the detox I'm on my kidneys and liver stayed great.

Imo the money may be better spent on something that makes you laugh. This disease is so hard on us mentally. Humor and laughter are hard to come by. I am a huge fan of Craig Ferguson. I loved the Late Late show. His last few years probably saved my life. When I thought there was no way I could laugh I did. That's priceless.
Find whatever it is that makes you and your kids laugh when you think it's impossible. It will help you get through the toughest of times.
Posted 4/12/2015 4:09 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks JRPSF! I appreciate it. I think I'm going to add Chlorella. Do you like the brand you buy? I need to research my options.

When I have done my Epsom salt baths, I only use a little water-I don't fill up the tub and that helps. You can always do a foot bath. Feet have so many pores. There is also dry brushing. I started that, but I need to do it more often. Every little bit of detoxing helps.

Laughter is the best medicine!!! I could not agree more. :)

Thanks for sharing!
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