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Posted 4/22/2015 8:20 PM (GMT 0)
Let's hope it works!!! Well, I sure am anyway! I've been on 1,000 mgs for keeping my immune system up - then last night it happened. shocked A teeny tiny nymphal tick attached (in parts below!! smhair). I removed it quickly, and raised my dose of astragalus to 3,000 mgs per day as per Buhner's instructions.

Moral of today's story? Ticks are VERY active here this year!!!! skull
Posted 4/22/2015 8:33 PM (GMT 0)
Oh no Traveler smhair smhair

I hope it works if needed... Saying a little prayer for you...
Posted 4/22/2015 8:39 PM (GMT 0)
HI Traveler, so do you think that is something we should keep around just in case we find a tick?
Thanks
Posted 4/22/2015 8:43 PM (GMT 0)
OMG, I am so glad you spotted it, praying you don't get any symptoms.

Do you use anything on your clothing or body as a preventive?
Posted 4/22/2015 8:43 PM (GMT 0)
This is not good! shakehead

I'm so sorry Traveler. You're supposed to be through this mess. I will pray for you too. Sending you lots of well wishes.

Do you think it would help to do a round of Chronic Tonic to knock anything out?
Posted 4/22/2015 8:46 PM (GMT 0)
Oh, no, not again :(

I sure hope it works! I have the tincture ready and 4 of us are taking it already, so hopefully we are covered for the spring, summer and fall. Are you taking it as pills or powder?

Try not to worry too much: if infected with one of the strains you already had, you should still be producing some antibodies and you should have some coverage already.

Can the little ticks be born infected with these diseases OR do they have to bite something already infected and then us, in order to infect us? Do you know, Trav?

I want to live in a tick free world LOL
Posted 4/22/2015 8:53 PM (GMT 0)
I'm thinking the same as Lyme Girl - should you maybe go on the Chronic Tonic again for a few weeks?...just in case?

Wow, you are living in one tick-infested area...
Posted 4/22/2015 9:48 PM (GMT 0)
ROFL, Mr Mike!! Thank you for that!!! yeah

Well, the good news is that I'm not freaking out like last time!! LOL!

I'm watching closely for an increase in symptoms - but it just can't happen now. I just made my first appt to start the process of having bone grafts done in my jaw. eyes

I have the Chronic Tonic at the ready(!!!!) though, and if I see any increasing symptoms, I'm hoping on it quickly!! I would have to do more than 3 weeks though, as I am usually only just to the point of herxing at 3 weeks. No problem though, I have the herbs all lined up!! LOL! I've actually been a little afraid to put them too far away!! I've been hearing that the ticks are bad and active this year. I can now confirm this!

No, I don't treat/spray myself/my clothes unless I plan on being out in my yard/garden - but I may have to rethink that. Because did I pick up the tick there? Nooooo - I was in town .....again!!!! I told hubby I couldn't go out to get groceries any more because that's when I keep getting these danged ticks!! LOL! That went over like a lead balloon. He won't do the grocery shopping - dang!!! Can't blame a girl for trying!!! turn

I have to be gone Thursday and Friday - we will be driving almost 300 miles each way to go see some very dear friends and the hubby was just disabled, so we are going to help them "settle in" to the new life style. So add a little bit of stress (the driving that far) to the mix and we'll see what I end up with!! LOL!

If nothing else, this will be a good test!! LOL! Ugh.
I seriously wanna cry.
Posted 4/22/2015 10:43 PM (GMT 0)
Oh merde!

That's always scary, isn't it.

Doesn't Misty Meadows feature a preventative tonic? Just do it the way you do your chronic tonic, as a tea only.

Do you have a rash?

Anyone with Lyme tends to get tick attachments (and or Lyme, sorry to say) over and over, not to mention repeat episodes when it comes out of dormancy. I would do every herb you can to prevent reinfection.

Just tell that tick sayonara.

M
Posted 4/22/2015 10:50 PM (GMT 0)
I don't understand when you go into town, are you walking on grass or just pavement. Or could your animals be bringing them in to the house or something.
Posted 4/22/2015 10:53 PM (GMT 0)
Ugh to the drive. That might be me looking through my own lens though.

Margaret
Posted 4/22/2015 11:07 PM (GMT 0)
Oh. my. gosh. Trav!

Ugh, this is madness! They are everywhere! I am not too far from you (MO) and my neighbor said she just pulled a tick off of her one day and both her kids a few days later. I haven't seen any yet but I am holding my breath.

I went to a local botanical shop and picked up some oils. It came in a little roller-ball bottle for application and it contained oil of anise, clove, lemon, tea tree, eucalyptus, and one more ingredient that I can't read as it rubbed off the label. But I know there are lots of other naturals that can be used. Maybe will just need to be your new daily perfume?? :)
Posted 4/22/2015 11:31 PM (GMT 0)
3 grams of astragalus in one day is a pretty high dose. I came crashing down hard with inflammation after 3 days at that dosage. I could hardly walk. Please take it easy.
Posted 4/23/2015 12:25 PM (GMT 0)
Oh no Traveler!!! shocked

TREAT IT....
Do not give any pathogen a chance to multiply... nono
I think these ticks are conspiring against you, they are out there to get you...i can picture them conversing...
Tick 1 - "Do you know that lady Traveler?
Tick 2- "Yeah, I heard that she is a tough one."
Tick 3- " we have sent couple of casualties to get her with no success"
Tick 1- "Well, everytime she falls, she gets up stronger, wiser..."
Tick 2- " she is a threat to our community... I say lets get her"
Ticks- "Yeah, let's get her!!!"
Watch out Traveler, these little suckers have a mind of their own...lol
Posted 4/24/2015 12:08 AM (GMT 0)
Hi I'm new to this forum, I've been ill with lyme & babs for 7 years, it has destroyed my life. I suffer from debilitating depression & anxiety.....sometimes I feel as if don't want to go on anymore......it's so? hard.....I was wondering? What is chronic tonic & where do I get it
Posted 4/24/2015 12:19 AM (GMT 0)
What is houttuyn & how do I get it ? Does anyone have any good recommendations on protocols or good doctor? I live in N.J
Posted 4/24/2015 12:30 AM (GMT 0)
I hope you nip it in the bud if you did get exposed again!!
Posted 4/24/2015 1:21 AM (GMT 0)
Mr.Mike, thank you for replying, I would like if you could post a link to a thread to it. I am new to this on line stuff, it can be alittle overwhelming. I have Stephen Buhner's book healing lyme....does he have another book ? Because some of the herbs you mentioned are not in my book.
Posted 4/24/2015 1:31 AM (GMT 0)
Welcome L'amour!

I'm glad you found us. I'm on my phone and I can't post any links, but can you tell us what treatments you tried so far? I'll try to post the links when I get in front of a computer. To find a LLMD in your area, please start another link "looking for LLMD in NJ". We have several members from NJ here that will see your post and respond.

Please let us know how you know you don't have Bartonella. Missing a co-infection is often the reason we don't heal. Have you been treated with abx? How long? Please post this in a new post so we can help.
Posted 4/24/2015 3:21 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Simela 1,


Thank you for welcoming me, how do I post a new post? I am new to this, this the first time I've ever been on a forum. I've ben diagnosed with lyme & babs since 2007. Iam seeing a llmd, I'm on anx for 2 in a half years. Before that on & off. I was on tindozol, then bactrum.....which after months of being on it & getting worse my doc did a methyl test on me & I tested positive for that gene.....so he took me off it & now I've been on clindamycin 600 mgs 2x aday for about 4 or 5 months; the pain was getting better, but the depression & anxiety is the same. I go to real scary place & i have a16 year old son that I can't imagine what that would do to him......sometimes when I'm not in that scary place & ifeel some what normal - I can't believe I could feel that way & l think it's disgusting to even think about that, but when the feeling comes over I can't help it & it's all I think about. Desperate
Posted 4/24/2015 3:33 AM (GMT 0)
Simela 1

how do I start another link? Sorry for being so unexperienced
Posted 4/24/2015 3:53 AM (GMT 0)
Looing for a LLMD in central N.J
Posted 4/24/2015 4:11 AM (GMT 0)
about half way, on left hand side, on the main page of this forum, there is a button that you can click on to post a new topic. Click on "Post New Topic" to create your own thread to which members can respond. Also, on every page, there are 3 buttons: "post New topic", Post Reply", or "Print Thread". You most likely clicked on post reply to reply here. Look for the "post new topic" button and click on that. There are experienced members here that can tell you what worked for them and what didn't. Also, some members including myself are using herbs.

I think some of the drugs you mentioned also treat bartonella. My son talked about a dark place and I think that was bartonella talking in him. You can post what you posted to me above (copy and paste) and start your own thread. If you think your LLMD may be missing something, we can help you find another. Have you tried any anti-anxiety meds? I am a pretty happy person, but I did take some cymbalta for a while because I was in a car accident, pregnant, and then because of some steroids shots they gave me for the accident, I had to deal with barto and lyme... again :( Cymbalta really helped me, no side effects, and I only took it for a few months, until I passed that terrible time.

Please don't be desperate, you found us, and we are a great bunch here, supporting each other and making everyone feel better. You have been sick for a long time. Some members have been sick for much longer. I was not and I can't imagine being sick for that long! I would start a new thread like:
Please help--new member--need ideas about treatment. Which abx work best?

Some members are very knowledgeable with abx. I am not one of them LOL

I have 4 children and I know it is not easy! 3 of them are infected. Now, I am well and I need to help them get well.

You can start another thread about "Clindamycyn--does it work for Babesia?"

I took Clindamycyn, too, but I thought I took it for Barto. I was never treated for Babesia as far as I know. But who knows? Maybe my LLMD added it to the mix to cover for everything. Keep asking questions. Maybe an herb to treat your anxiety and depression is all you need to make you feel better :)
Posted 4/24/2015 10:15 AM (GMT 0)
L'amour, if you scroll to the top of the page you will see a button that says, "Post New Topic". Then just write a subject (like looking for LLMD in central NJ), and write what you want to say in the next box. You can email me by clicking on the envelope under my name.
Posted 4/24/2015 6:20 PM (GMT 0)
I hope you're having a good, relaxing, stress free trip Traveler!

Looking forward to hearing from you when you get back. In the meantime, take it easy and know we're thinking if you. :)
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