Bee-sting Therapy for Lyme and Company

Has anyone used bee sting therapy successfully to treat Lyme and co-infections?  I read a few good articles on it's use and effectiveness on treating Bb but I wanted to hear from the group if anyone has used bee sting therapy and was it effective for treating their lyme? Or is it all hoopla and not a real treatment?

Somebody a few weeks ago posted this about this group on facebook, Apitherapy to treat Lyme & Co-infections Eugene OR. I friended them and have been reading their posts and the people are actually getting better. I see my LD today and I'm going to see if he will give me a script for an epi pen so I can do it.

They tell you how to do it, show how to videos and just have a ton of info on this site.

They claim it kills all bacteria, virus, pathogens, even childhood diseases resurface and get killed off. Pretty amazing

I have a friend who swears by it for RA.

They are doing along with herbs and anx but some have been able to quit the anx and herbs. You have to stick with it for a few years but after awhile your not stinging but a few times a month. People are having amazing results and it's cheap compared to all this other crap we have to do.

Revive, she came to our Lyme group in Portland a few months ago. After seeing how many stings they do, I decided I won't try it, mainly because of the bee loss. That's just my thing. I think I have a bunch of honey bees getting water from the pool cover, so hopefully they're making a nest somewhere again. They aren't wasps, which would be getting water, but I'm not sure how honey bees make their new hives. I'll have to look that up.

A truck full of bee hives tipped over recently and they lost a lot of bees, but they were able to save some too. A bunch of bee keepers came and helped save as many as they could. This was a truck headed to a blueberry field I believe, since the shortage of bees has impacted a lot of fruit growers. Too bad a Lyme patient wasn't there. They could've helped and gotten stung too. ;)

Just remember to have an EpePen on hand if any of you try it, just in case you have an allergic reaction and even if you aren't allergic now.

I started bee sting therapy a week ago. My husband and I have kept bees for 20 years. Like you I feel sad that bees die when I am stung. We catch the foragers as they leave the hive. The foragers are the oldest bees in the colony other than the queen. Foraging, which is their most dangerous task, is the last job that they do before they die (usually around the age of 28 days). We love our bees, and I try to express gratitude for their stings. I don't feel great about it, but the truth is most have at most a week or so left to live.

I have been on abx for 9 months. Right now I'm taking Buhner's herbs, although not a full dose for some of them, and the bee stings. I'm hopeful, but it is early to tell how it will go. So far I've had one great day, and the usual mix of not so good and pretty bad days.

Garden, Remember the thousands of bees killed in the Portland area because of pesticide spraying. Such a loss for the environment......and the poor bees! It would have been far better if they died for a good cause, like treating Lyme.

I heard the bees that the company sends you for BVT are the ones that only have a few weeks to live. I don't feel so bad about it being they are going to die anyway.

I haven't started it yet but will in the next few weeks, I have my epi pen and the bees cost barely nothing compared to all this other therapy.

Also been on therapy for about a year and half and not much has changed as far as pain. My other symptoms are gone but this darn pain stuff just doesn't want to go. Hopefully BVT will boost my immune system.

So could those doing this post links for places supplying, doing the api-bit? And follow up as to experience & any healing would be great!

Hi all. I am new to this forum and really wanted to post as I am an experienced apitherapist and I am reading ALOT of misinformation about apitherapy on the internet. My biggest concerns are safety. BVT can be miraculous, especially for Lyme but that does not mean everyone should rush out and try it. There are contraindications that some of these FB groups do not mention. I have also seen some of these groups recommending how to do BVT without any information on how to tell if you are having an allergic reaction nor how to handle an allergic reaction. I have also seen a video of a man pulling out a woman's stingers by hand! Hep B can live on the surface of the skin. You do not ever want to use your bare hands to pull out another's stingers! My biggest concern is the "one size fits all" recommendation on how to use BVT for Lyme. Not only does everyone not need these high doses that are being recommended but it can be downright dangerous for many to use such high doses. If you start herxing too quickly you can seriously hurt yourself and for people to blatantly recommend how to do this to large numbers of people they've never met before and don't know their history is just crazy to me, Everyone reacts differently to BVT and it is a very individual process as to how much venom will be the right dose for each person. These people recommending how to do BVT on FB are not Apitherapists and have no training in BVT other than their own experiments and what they've learned on the internet. If you can not find an apitherapist through the American Apitherapy Society to help you and you are interested in trying this therapy then at the very least trust your body first and foremost when following any protocol. You do not need to feel horrible on BVT to get well. I have worked with many Lyme clients. Each one is different as to how much bee venom they can tolerate but we always start out slow to try and keep the herxing to a minimum. When we reach a dose that feels good we stick with it. If we decide to raise the dose we do it slowly. Slow and steady wins the race. You absolutely Do NOT need to do BVT 3 times a week to get well. I've seen many people recover on twice a week. 3 times a week is too much for many and for those that do it 3 times a week sometimes it can take months to get up to that dose. Please be careful where you get your information from. Practice safely. Use common sense. Contact the AAS to try and find someone experienced to help you get started. Just because some people have had great experiences with BVT doesn't mean they have the experience to tell everyone else how they should do it. And lastly I know some of you mentioned concerns about how using these bees effects the bee population. I love my bees. But I also know the queen can lay up to 1500 eggs a day. A few bees a few times a week does not affect the health or numbers of my hive at all. And this is just my personal opinion but I believe one of the reasons bees can have such a miraculous effect on our health is because this is one of their purposes on our planet. I believe BVT is just one of the many gifts they are here to bring us. Ask anyone who's been stung "accidentally" in just the right place. I could tell you many stories of people who were "accidentally" stung just where they needed it to heal. I have had it happen to me 3 times in this last year alone. Sorry to be so long winded. I love this subject and just really want to see people practice safely so they can get the most out of BVT and so BVT does not get a bad rap. It really is an amazing healing tool!

Welcome mtnfaerie. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on safety with bees. That isn't stressed enough it seems.

mtnfaerie~An informative post re apitherapy. Thank you for taking the time to weigh in!

I'm following up here. I followed a protocol for bee sting therapy for 10 months, (May 2015-March 2016) stinging 3 times/week and building up slowly to 8-10 stings per session. In total I had about 700 stings. I was greatly helped by bee stings. Although I am not the same person I was before Lyme, I am active and happy. Before I started stinging, I'd been on antibiotics off and on for almost a year, and was having trouble tolerating them. Now I am on no treatment. I have flare-ups, but I've learned to live with them. I push myself to exercise regularly - swimming, yoga, Qi gong, gardening, because I feel less pain when I'm active, and I sleep better. Still have nerve pain, fatigue at times, weird reactions to changes in the weather etc. Bee stings helped me get my life back.

Great to hesr Arkansas. I wiil bump the bvt thread maybe you can post your testamony there ?.some here sting for 2 years then do maintenance stings every 2 weeks .sure beats living on abx.do you have hives?