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Posted 6/14/2015 1:08 AM (GMT 0)
Hello...
I am in search of information, advice...maybe someone else has gone through this.
I tested positive for lymes in March and have been working with a LLND a with rifing and detoxing. Prior to this I have had panic disorder with GAD, agoraphobia and have been on meds for MANY years. My mental issues are getting worse, depression is waaaay up! I'm wondering if I have detoxed out all my regular meds out of me as well as anything else with the cleanses and so on.
I can not find any answers to this and I have searched!!!! Any opinions would be helpful. I'm just at the end of my very worn short rope! cry
Posted 6/14/2015 1:37 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Grams...

It's sad that you are going thru this... but I'm glad that you found us...

Here are a couple links to look over... while you are waiting for
others to chime in...

You can also put a topic in the search bar on this forum...
and get a list of threads that may help you on your healing
journey.

I know... its Alot! But it is important to continue searching and looking within...in order to get a plan of action established to fit
your particular needs.

davidjernigan.blogspot.com/search?q=panic

buhnerhealinglyme.com/category/symptoms/emotional/


If we can't "get over it" ... We need to "go thru it".
Posted 6/14/2015 1:37 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Grams,
Welcome to our community! I'm so glad you found us.

We will need to get a little more information before we can be of help possibly.

How long ago did you start treatments? It's quite possible that your are experiencing a herx.

What are you doing for detoxing? As the Lyme bacteria die they put off toxins that can overwhelm the body's detox pathways, and we herx. Herxing is an increase in current or new symptoms until the toxins have been detoxed to a lower level.

Some people have a gene mutations (the only one I remember is MTHFR) that make it harder for their body to keep up with the toxin load. There are ways to deal with this as well, though.

Do you have another idea how long you have been infected?
Posted 6/14/2015 2:27 AM (GMT 0)
My dr thinks I have had lymes for more than 25 years and believes the anxiety and panic is a bi product of it.
For detoxing I'm doing some supplements that are suppose to help along with epson baths , lemon water and just recently a liver cleanse, paleocleanse. I started treating for lymes and the 3 other co infections in April using a rife machine aka wellness pro.
Posted 6/14/2015 3:08 AM (GMT 0)
It would be my opinion that you are likely herxing. Having had these infections for likely 25 years or more, you almost certainly have a fairly high toxin load as well as a high bacterial load. I was infected for 40 yrs and definitely had high toxin and bacterial loads. Getting started into treatment was a very careful balance between trying to treat and trying to not completely overload my body with toxins.

The best thing to do is to use several different means of detoxing to help as many areas of the body as we can with detoxing. So I would suggest that you do more things for detoxing and see if that doesn't help. While everyone needs different amounts of detoxing, here is what I found I had to do to to keep the toxin levels low enough so that I wasn't miserable and very ill:
Epsom salt & peroxide foot soaks
Oil pulling
Dry skin brushing
64 ounces of lemon water a day
Activated charcoal
Gentle exercise any time I was up for it.

If the herxing doesn't let up or your symptoms get to be too strong it's a good idea to slow down or even stop your treatments until things ease up. The body can't heal well when it's fighting a herx.

And please, keep asking questions if you have any more. The best tools for fighting these infections is knowledge and understanding in my opinion.
Posted 6/14/2015 10:53 AM (GMT 0)
Grams - how often are you rifing?

I personally found that my herx from rifing makes my anxiety levels increase and I cannot tolerate 'stress' (not things that I would under normal circumstances consider stressful!).

My doc said most likely toxin build up, which makes sense to me since I am sure the little blitters are camping out in my brain)

I also wonder if the lyme frequencies somehow 'annoy' the bartonella... Just a wonder really as my mood goes all to hell and some of my 'bart symptoms' (especially shin and foot soreness) increase.

Which coinfections do you have?

I have held off my rife machine until my bart herbs get here - in a vague attempt to try and work out what's what.

I would be really interested to here more details about how/when/what frequencies you're doing....a kind of note comparison if you like, might help one of us get to the bottom of it, maybe, lol.
Posted 6/15/2015 1:06 AM (GMT 0)
Hi silly....
I would be grateful for anything you have to offer as far as advice opinion.
I am a total mess again today with the anxiety and depression. Questioning the point of it all.
Okay so the machine I treat on is called a wellness pro. They put in the codes and it sets the frequencies, it goes up and down for the entire run. Which could be anywhere from 20 min to 68 min. I have Lymes,Bart, babs, and mono AND west nile.
Let me know what you think please and thank you.
Posted 6/15/2015 1:39 PM (GMT 0)
Ok, so here is what I am up to, lol, based on a lot of reading and a long chat with my doc who is pro rife....

Firstly start just with one frequency- that way you know if that particular frequency works or not. I did the frequency she did with me for 10 mins - and herxed like a son of a .....

Add in another frequency on your next rife - so both for 10 mins each...and see what happens. I was told to leave at least a week between sessions - or at least a few days after the herx stops, so sometimes it's longer. Leave yourself plenty of time to recover and detox like a crazy!!!

I would recommend doing no more than four frequencies at any one time, once you've worked your way there, then you sort of cycle them (adding different ones, leaving others out - if that makes sense??)

I haven't started rifing for bart yet - I want to sort out what's what with the lyme frequencies first. If you don't know whats working and what isn't you are just rifing blind!!

Hang in there- there is a point, just slooooowwww down!!! It's a marathon not a sprint, lol, and it is going to suck for a while, but you will come out the other end.

Pace yourself so you give yourself plenty of time between herxing. The hardest bit is finding the right 'code' that works for you.

Errr, right, more when I think of it, dumb lyme brain!!!

Let me know if this is of any use to you, and how it compares to what you are up to.

BIG, BIG HUGS!!!
Posted 6/15/2015 6:02 PM (GMT 0)
The problem is the machine Im using has set cycles so when you get on it it's set to "Bart" for example and it's 28 min for example. You just hold the paddle thingys until the time is up. I'm sure we are talking about a totally different kind of machine than you're working with. It's called wellness pro. I asked the dr what the difference was and he said wellness pro was "legal" ? I'm definitely taking time off, I think my system is highly exhausted! Thank you for your time silly sheep. I will keep my eye open for anything else you come up with.
Posted 6/16/2015 2:42 PM (GMT 0)
No probs, Grams. I think the machine you have does basically the same thing as mine 'science wise', just the programmes are preset is all. I just have to programme my own frequencies, I think that's the only real difference.

It's therefore just about making sure you space the treatment out so as to give yourself plenty of recovery time to detox in between sessions.

I know these types of machine come with instructions for running frequencies for other conditions or illnesses- like running them every day for example. Just so as you know this is not the advice to follow for the lyme or co infections settings. When I bought mine the seller was surprised I only planned to use it for 10 mins a session. She thought I'd have it on all night - I would likely have finished myself off if I had followed the 'guidelines'.

Would it be possible for you to run the first part of the programme on one session (ie hold the paddles for the first 14 minutes then let go!) then have a few days off, them do the second half of the programme the following session (eg let it run for 14 minutes then grab the paddles!). You could even start with shorter periods if that's too much?? That way you would still be going through the whole preset programme, just not all at once - so less toxin build up. You could then make subsequent sessions longer and build up to the full programme.

Either way I would run the lyme frequencies and coinfection frequencies at different sessions (a few days apart) if I were you.

And yes, time off to detox sounds like a good plan.

Sorry if I am not being of a great help....but you never know.

Hope you are not feeling too bad and that a rest helps.
Posted 6/16/2015 4:11 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks so much for your input. I skipped seeing the natralpathic dr yesterday as I am feeling wiped out. I am strongly considering the Hansa clinic so I don't know how much longer I will do the wellness pro. I will let you know what I decide and how things are going.
Thanks again
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