Pulsing antibiotics on Mon, Wed, Fri - how effective?

Mark - pulsing is something we are hearing more of - it seems to be a protocol that may allow the bacteria to come out of hiding (out of cyst form) when it's not threatened - ie. on the week off. And then, you hit it when you go back on.

And as you say - it could allow your body to stay healthy as the intestinal flora also comes back into balance.

There are many opinions on how it's done. I've seen where the protocol is three weeks on (everyday) and one week off.

I've also seen where you take certain antibiotics for 5 days, and then the next two days you take a cyst buster. You do that for three weeks, and take the fourth week off.

There was also the six weeks on (daily) and then three weeks off. That is based on it takes three weeks for the lyme to replicate again.

I don't think they know yet what is the best pulsing approach.

Back in the late 80s they treated with IV for 1 day and then 6 days off...for 10 weeks... it "cured" that person's infection after years of other longer courses (who knows how it worked out in the end/if the guy is still around).

Someone in another thread mentioned the longer between abx, the better (up to 3 weeks)... i would guess it allows the bacteria to get back into spirochetes/out of their hiding spaces and mingling/making babies...

Wildcard is what is allowed during those off days.... if you are treating a coinfection 3 weeks off is pushing it.

I pulse.. 3 days on in a row and 4 days off

I'll take 2x500mg ceftin and 4x250mg tetracycline.

I'll have Lyme and Bart

I do take Buhners Bart protocoll all days.

And i also eat treamandous amount of other pills that will help me in many ways

Hi Mark

Pulsing is great, good comments already. I'm on IV Rocephin 4 days on, 3 days off. My remaining protocol is constant.

Can you share your anti fungal routine and what you're doing to replace good bacteria as well as detox? I might have a few suggestions on that front.

p

Great protocol.

I'm going to suggest you try PURE Nystatin Powder if you are not already. All other forms of Nystatin are far too weak, full of fillers and preservatives and you're paying for all of that. You need the good stuff in the gut, where it's all going on. Also, the pills, while having very little actual Nystatin in them, just sit in your stomach.

Most MDs are unfamiliar w/ the pure powder. Pls let me know if you need more info to share w/ them. Regular chain pharmacies won't carry it so you'll need to find a compounding pharmacist. Many are online and ship. Mine is WONDERFUL and ships for free. I can provide his info if you email me.

A wonderful benefit of the powder is that it coats your entire alimentary canal… you add the powder to a little water, swish it around your mouth and swallow it… it reaches and kills on contact all of the yeast on the surfaces of your mouth, throat, and all through your intestines to reach the rectal area… Nystatin pills can't do that and the liquid has sugar and other crap in it. Your ears should also clear up because the yeast growing in your stomach is growing up your throat and into your ears (sinuses are next!!)

If you haven't had the y/f overgrowth sx for too long you might get by w/ only the local anti fungal. But if you've been on abx for awhile or have had sx for more than 3 months, I'd add a systemic. If Diflucan worked, repeat. If not, try another one. Systemic antifungals penetrate the mucosal barrier of the GI and get into the bloodstream, which takes the anti fungal through your body, including the liver, which is why your enzymes are elevated. Please add a dropper of burdock root and milk thistle seed to your regimen to reduce enzymes.

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3274111

Use this dosing chart:
www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Nystatin_-_how_to_take_it
You'll notice the max dose is much higher than what most MDs will prescribe. Slowly titrate up to the max dose (you really want to hit the yeast HARD) and stay there for about a month. After that, if your sx are all gone, you can back off highest dose but for you, I'd stay on the powder for as long as you are taking abx.

And you need at least 400 billion of a high quality, multi strained LIVE probiotic daily. After your last course of abx, wait an hour and then take your binder, wait 3 hours and take you probiotic and go to bed and let them flourish overnight.

Increase detox while you're on the antivirals! Remember the rule, whatever you're killing needs to be removed.

Hope this helps.

p

Thank you, Pirouette, for your help. I use nystatin powder.:) Actually, I've learned about it months ago after reading posts of groovy2 on Lymenet. He also said it was much more effective than pills.

One VSL#3 contains 450 billion units of probiotic bacteria. I take it twice daily so it's 900 billion units daily. Plus multistrain probiotic from Vitacost on top of that.

If anyone has any other observations about pulsed antibiotic therapy, please share your thoughts, of course.

Great that other forums are also talking about the powder!

OK… so you shouldn't still be battling y/f. Let's troubleshoot:

Are you taking enough powder??? Most MDs have no idea what doses to prescribe. Link I provided has the appropriate dosing. And for you, you should stay at max dose for a long while.

And, looks like you'll need a systemic anti fungal, as well. You might need to try a couple different ones to determine what works.

And although your protocol is very good but for chronic cases like yours they are not very effective (which is why you probably need to implement the Rx above until you can get it more under control). Plus, yeast can become resistant to natural antifungals very easily, so I've read recommendations to alternate a couple of them every week. So, discontinue what you're taking and find two new natural antifungals (see below) you're not currently taking and introduce them for a week and find two new ones. Do this for about 4 wks and then you can repeat.

Some of the most common natural antifungals are garlic, grapefruit seed extract, oregano oil, colloidal silver, olive leave, taheebo leaf, tanalbit and caprylic acid. Food grade hydrogen peroxide is effective as well, and doesn't need rotated.

I would also switch up your probiotic. Find a different brand, but maintain the 900 billion/day.

Hope this helps.

p