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Posted 10/20/2015 12:33 PM (GMT 0)
So about two weeks ago my LLMD gave me a break from my meds ceftin and bactrim for Lyme and Bart and I continued flucanozol 200 mg daily and a-Bart. After a week my symptoms seemed to be comin back so we went back on. Now I have still been feeling very ill and seem to be getting worse in just the 6 or so days back on my meds. I am getting brain fog and spaced out and ice pick headaches now basically a walking zombie by about 4 pm, none of which I was having before. I have been detoxing religiously so I am not sure if this is a herx or what but it never lasts this long. Just two weeks ago I was 80-85 percent my old self.

So went back to the doctor yesterday and he gave me an vitamin and glutathione IV drip and wants to try o-zone IV a few times a week and also add in rifampin which I haven't started yet.

-what does this sound like herx or relapse or flare up
-any positive experience for rifampin and Bart (don't wanna hear horror stories of herxing)
-o-zone I'm all for trying if it can even just give me some more energy
-also wants to do brain mapping (nuero feedback) to help with some brain fog, not sure if this works but sounds interesting and I'm willing to try
Posted 10/20/2015 12:58 PM (GMT 0)
So sorry to hear about the latest symptoms!

In essence, by having you go off meds for two weeks and then re-start them, your LLMD was pulsing them.

That can most definitely cause a herx which is my vote for your latest issues - sorry.

I can't speak to the rest and hope others will chime in.
Posted 10/20/2015 1:09 PM (GMT 0)
That's what I was thinking too I am hoping the rifampin doesn't set me back further. I guess in essence the meds and my herbs are hitting what was in hiding and came out now?
Posted 10/20/2015 1:31 PM (GMT 0)
I would agree that's what's likely going on - even though you may be doing all you can to detox, by essentially pulsing your abx, the bacteria thought the coast was clear, so they came out and then you restarted your meds, which created a herx. If it doesn't stop or lighten up soon, be sure to let your LLMD know.
Posted 10/20/2015 2:37 PM (GMT 0)
So I guess that's a good thing atleast that I am getting to parts that weren't being hit before. Overall I don't feel as terrible as yesterday but I'm still pretty run down. Hopefully I will make steady progress.back to how I was.
Posted 10/20/2015 3:11 PM (GMT 0)
Hey there, how were you detoxing? I have realized that when my glands get swollen, I need to cut back on antimicrobials otherwise I feel like total poo. I try to keep my liver as healthy as possible, and at this point it is! But my lymphatic system is a bit sluggish if I don't exercise. Detoxing, for me, (and in accordance to any physiology 101 textbook) is primarily about turning toxic substances into non-toxic by products and eliminating them. We need a good liver for this and to an extent, kidneys, but it also requires some assistance on your lymph system as well as cardiology. You want things constantly moving and even though a "detox bath" eliminates through your skin, exercise does that and more (produces more mitochondria- something that is royally messed in many Lyme patients).

It could be a herx, an autoimmune flare, or something else. Time will tell. I am prudent with antibiotics in particular though I understand there usefullness at times. Ozone therapy has worked well for me - I stopped taking all my anti-microbials and switched entirely to this with no ill effects (the opposite, great results).
Posted 10/20/2015 3:35 PM (GMT 0)
Itsnotjustlyme- that's great to hear about your success with ozone., how often do you get it and how long did it take for you to see improvements?

Just to mention my detoxing, I take supplements to support detox SAT and cystine plus, as well as Epsom salt baths 5-6 days per week, infared sauna about every other day, 1.5-2 gallons of spring water daily, just added alkoseltzer gold, I am strictly gf, very low sugar 0-5 grams daily, and no dairy. I also workout 5-6 days per week with weights and cardio working out (particularly bodybuilding style) has always been apart of my life style and I have remained as constant as possible with keeping up exersize but also not over doing it.
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