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Posted 11/11/2015 5:46 AM (GMT 0)
Has anyone had any experiences with Buhner's original babesia herbal tinctures of Alchornea cordifolia, cryptolepis, and Sida acuta? I know he has an updated protocol but wondering if anyone has just used this and your outcome. Thanks!

http://buhnerhealinglyme.com/herbs/super-babesia/
Posted 11/11/2015 7:20 AM (GMT 0)
Rikky - Rowing mom used Buhner's Babs protocol to treat her daughter - and that was a couple years ago - I think 2013 - so I'm thinking that was before the updated protocol.
And as you know - her daughter has healed and is doing wonderfully.
Posted 11/11/2015 5:40 PM (GMT 0)
I'm copying this from another post I just made:

We aren't sick because we have an infection; we are sick because our immune systems can't resolve the infection.

We can kill bacteria until the cows come home, but then simply fall prey to another because our response is no better. Immune systems damaged by toxins (pesticides - especially glyphosate/RoundUp, metal adjuvants in vaccinations) and stress (mental, physical, EMF produced) are unable to function to their full potential.

Cryptolepis is a good antimicrobial herb and produced babesia herx reactions and then resolution of many symptoms for K (where malarone plus 5 other abx hadn't). But it isn't the only herb we are using. We are also using the full bartonella protocol minus l-arginine.

Buhner's full protocols support immune function and inflammatory response. We have changed diet and lifestyle as well, adding fermented vegetables and probiotics, and eating organically (as much as possible) for gut health and immune support (70% of the immune system is housed in the gut).

If you are looking for a single "magic bullet", you won't find it. There is no easy way out of this mess we have gotten ourselves into.
Posted 11/11/2015 5:46 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah, that's one of my biggest problems, I worry too much about killing the stuff instead of trying to get my body in the state that it needs to be in for me to actually heal. I always forget.

Though, there are just so many, too many, aspects to the process, especially when you add in the coinfections, and other little conditions brought on my prolonged exposure, damage.

Poopy stuff.
Posted 11/18/2015 11:01 PM (GMT 0)
Rikky1,

I'm interested in success stories as well in treating Babesia, specifically B. duncani. I've heard that this species is drug resistant.

Rowing - can you please tell me why you didn't use the L-arginine from Buhner's protocol? Is it because it feeds the viruses (does it feed all viruses???)? Ican't remember now which virus he said it feeds.

Many thanks!
Posted 11/19/2015 12:37 AM (GMT 0)
momoftres - Yes. Because K had significant declines with each of her MMR vaccinations, I was concerned that the live attenuated virus might cause a problem. Only my intuition telling me not to, that's all.

I think Buhner mentioned EBV.

Check the archives. I think both Trav and Mr Mike had difficulties with virus flares using l-arginine.

If you really want to give it a try, just be aware that if you do have an active viral infection that l-arginine might activate it. Be prepared with l-lysine which should help.

Personally I prefer to experiment as opposed to simply taking someone's word on something. We are all so different, and our infections different too.
Posted 11/19/2015 12:59 AM (GMT 0)
Buhner said L-arginine can reactivate herpes and shingles viruses.

I believe Traveler said it reactivated her EBV.

I have high IgG for EBV but have been taking Monolaurin TID since earlier this year. I also consume coconut oil daily and take a bunch of herbs that also have anti-viral properties.

I finally got off the fence about L-arginine and started it a week ago yesterday (and I have a bottle of L-lysine at the ready :). I have been feeling REALLY good lately - the best ever since Lyme hit....not sure if L-arginine gets the credit or what but, I'll take it :)
Posted 11/19/2015 1:01 AM (GMT 0)
Sorry to go off-topic, Rikky.

I think you know I've been following Buhner's latest Babesia protocol which includes CSA along with several other herbs as well as recommended supplements.

I'm also following his latest Bartonella and Lyme protocols....and taking a bunch of supportive herbs and other supplements.

You know I think a multi-faceted approach is necessary for healing. I'm feeling the best I ever have since Lyme hit - yay!
Posted 11/19/2015 3:39 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks everyone! I just learned about L-lysine last week and picked some up at Walmart. I've been doing lyme and co research for years and can't believe I didn't find out about this until now :/. How much do you take?

I did 2 days of 1000mg 2x/day for 2 days and now just doing 500mg/day. Someone said to take it on an empty stomach at least 2 hours away from anything with Calcium because L-lysine soaks up the calcium and can cause kidney stones and maybe cause osteoporosis (?). Can you take both L-arginine and L-lysine together?

Any comments about that or is there anything else I should know about L-lysine?

Thanks!!
Posted 11/19/2015 5:38 PM (GMT 0)
My daughter would get sun cold sores and I gave her l-lysine. This was back in the 80's. The herbalist I knew then said if she got a stomach ache or diarrhea to discontinue.
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