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Posted 11/28/2015 6:12 PM (GMT 0)
I get so excited when I am strong enough to add a new piece of the protocol. Today is cryptolepis. Why this one? Because I have it. Red root is on its way. I have a tolerable headache, probably because it has been around so long I just figure it is life. I also have a weird sore throat and blood shot eyes. Also, both totally tolerable but all telltale signs of a bug in me. Oh and an annoying cough.

Now I take my herbs 3x's a day and do any of you find that your body tells you "it is time to take more herbs?" Mine sure does. I swear I do not need a clock to tell me it is herb time. One symptom or another will awaken and let me know.
Posted 11/28/2015 6:45 PM (GMT 0)
Hi PeteZa!-

Is the new herb for Babesia or Bartonella?

From the symptoms you listed it sounds to me like you might be dealing with both?

When I started Rifampin antibiotics( for Bartonella),I had a very sore throat for a couple of weeks.

I think I read on a different thread that red eyes can be from Babesia.

Hope the new herbs help you!
Posted 11/28/2015 7:39 PM (GMT 0)
I wish my body told me when to take all my stuff.

Cryptolepis is for Babs, but my LLND prescribed it to me - even though we don't think I have Babs - as he said it is good for all infections. Even though it's usually considered a Babs herb.

Peetza - Remember - start low, increase slowly...ok?
Posted 11/28/2015 7:50 PM (GMT 0)
Good luck, PeteZa!

It sounds like you are herxing and I suggest that you either hold at the dose of Cryptolepis you're on or possibly even reduce it a tad....until increased detoxing brings you close to baseline.

Crytolepis is one of the strongest antibacterial herbs out there.

I hope you maintain a symptoms journal.....you're having some hallmark Babesia symptoms on an herb that is used to treat Babesia.

And, yes, sore throat could be Bartonella.....but it also could be Lyme. Treating coinfections makes Lyme more vulnerable to treatment.
Posted 11/28/2015 8:00 PM (GMT 0)
I agree on the herx! I have both Bart and Babs, and my eyes have never NOT been blood shot for the past year since I've been infected.

The sore throat, I've learned, is a candida or herx issue-sometimes both. Herxing can last for weeks if you don't scale back on treatment or ramp up the detox regimen.

Lots of Apple Cider Vinegar for me, lemon water, and herbal caffeine-free teas-- away from antimicrobials. :)

With herxing, I've learned to rest as much as possible and to not give into the candida cravings- which I've done poorly at this weekend with thanksgiving (no gluten or sugar, but I indulged in white potatoes and a small amount of dairy).


This is my first "advice" post, so please, others chime in if I missed something!
Posted 11/28/2015 8:57 PM (GMT 0)
I am guessing I have babs from everything I have read. Actually I took the cryptolepis, only 6 drops for the first time this morning, so it isn't a herx. I am pretty sure I have babs and bart along with bad ole lyme.

I will not pay for a test that is so highly inaccurate to see what it says. I know my feet were from Bart and I think it is hiding since I started herbs. My babs symptoms are pretty classic.

One thing I have done is continue on my Beyond Balance Tox Ease GL herbs. It is a combo of herbs, really long list. I think it is responsible for me not herxing. I also love lemon water, detox teas and dry brushing and my loofa.

So far (fingers crossed and toes too) no herx and no side effects. Yeah me But I just took dose no. 2.
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