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Posted 12/3/2015 2:44 PM (GMT 0)
I think I may have Babesia, I have pin prick red dots, Major neck issues, and shortness of breath, I used to have drenching night sweats but it's been about a month since. I tested negative through quest for Babesia Microti (yes I know quest sucks lol) but someone mentioned Babesia Duncani... What's the difference?
Posted 12/3/2015 2:59 PM (GMT 0)
They're two different strains of babesia. Treated the same way but duncani is usually more stubborn. Girlie just had a thread about babesia, lots of good info there.
Posted 12/3/2015 3:13 PM (GMT 0)
OK I will read thanks :-) I thought I read B. Duncani is in Northwest, I am from Michigan though! Lol
Posted 12/3/2015 3:33 PM (GMT 0)
No, it doesn't really matter. Animals and ticks can move around.
Posted 12/3/2015 3:35 PM (GMT 0)
I agree! Especially the way they hitch a ride on clothing
Posted 12/3/2015 3:46 PM (GMT 0)
Please also be aware that there are more strains of Babesia than tests available to verify their presence. Throw in the fact that new strains are being discovered every few months and we just need to treat based upon symptoms.
Posted 12/3/2015 3:49 PM (GMT 0)
Yes! Thank you, see my big dilema is that I am seeing a NP that is some what knowledgeable about Lyme but doesn't know much about co's, she's the only one my insurance will pay for and I don't have out of pocket for a LLMD but she's open to researching and suggestions
Posted 12/3/2015 3:52 PM (GMT 0)
With Babesia are the red pin dots permanent or ones that go away like a rash? I have had tiny red dots on my inner arms and thighs for about 3 years. When I asked the dermatologist (these came around the same time that I developed rosacea subtype 2) she said it was a normal aging thing. I was about 34 or 35 at the time. I also have very occasional night sweats. Maybe 5 in a year.
Posted 12/3/2015 4:03 PM (GMT 0)
The dots haven't completely went away but will fade and then and multiply... I was told "hormones" cause this, then I heard Babesia.
Posted 12/3/2015 4:59 PM (GMT 0)
Bart can cause them, too - it all has to do with the infection of the red blood cells.
Posted 12/3/2015 6:17 PM (GMT 0)
I do not have the red pin prick dots, but do have other symptoms: Headaches, head pressure, dizziness, light-headedness, nausea, loss of appetite, intermittent chills and sweats, fatigue/exhaustion.

These symptoms appeared over the last couple of weeks, after three months of Lyme and Bartonella treatment.

I tested negative for Babesia microti, and have not had the duncani test yet. But my doctor said my symptoms were in line with Babesia, so he started me on Malarone and azithromycin yesterday.

My sweats and chills and have subsided somewhat, as have my headaches and head pressure. He said if the medications worked then be confident I had Babesia, Neither of us could see my not having it, since the Lyme and Bartonella are definite, and the three B's seem to be the status quo of tick-born infection combinations. I knew it was just a matter of time before the Babesia came out. Maybe if I went longer without treatment I would have had the little red pin pricks.
Posted 12/3/2015 11:36 PM (GMT 0)
I have hundreds of the pin prick red dots, some fade and then more come out, mainly on the underside of my arms and some on inner thighs. I even have them under my toenails. My llmd said mine prob from bart as i have other pronounced bart symptoms. I just started abx treatment this week.
Posted 12/4/2015 4:49 AM (GMT 0)
I have babesia duncani (igenex test) and i live in NJ so its in the northeast as well.

You might want to graduate up to the mepron if you aren't making improvements on malarone. it's higher dosage is apparently more effective for most than the lower atovaquone amount combined with proguanil to make it more effective. that's been my own personal experience.
Posted 12/4/2015 5:31 AM (GMT 0)
Their is Babesia duncaii test through Quest too. It is called WA-1.

Maybe you could get insurance to cover test? Fingers crossed.
Posted 12/4/2015 12:56 PM (GMT 0)
The Quest test is highly inaccurate I wouldn't even bother. You're better off treating symptoms or if you really want a test use Igenex.
Posted 12/4/2015 1:56 PM (GMT 0)

tbohl said...
Yes! Thank you, see my big dilema is that I am seeing a NP that is some what knowledgeable about Lyme but doesn't know much about co's, she's the only one my insurance will pay for and I don't have out of pocket for a LLMD but she's open to researching and suggestions

Do you think your NP would be receptive to reading Buhner's books?

He does a phenomenal job explaining the infection and disease process.

I know my wallet is hurting from dealing with Lyme and Co's....and my money is much better spent on treatment than unreliable tests.
Posted 12/4/2015 8:14 PM (GMT 0)
I was diagnosed with babesia (done by blood smear) and for the most part am over the worst of it but I wanted to ask a babesia related question here because I know someone can answer it, but I've had these hypoglacemic episodes where I feel I'm empty and jittery and starving for food even though eat a lot. Someone mentioned it could be the babesia but what is the connection to babesia and the feeling of not eating?
Posted 12/5/2015 1:34 AM (GMT 0)

Ace said...
I was diagnosed with babesia (done by blood smear) and for the most part am over the worst of it but I wanted to ask a babesia related question here because I know someone can answer it, but I've had these hypoglacemic episodes where I feel I'm empty and jittery and starving for food even though eat a lot. Someone mentioned it could be the babesia but what is the connection to babesia and the feeling of not eating?


Babesia, as well as other Plasmodium parasites have a need for glucose. They use up yours and then you get low blood sugar. I explained it very simply, but there are many medical articles that explain this in more detail. Here is just one I grabbed quickly:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2257322

Notice these sentences:

"The parasites increase glucose consumption 50-100 fold as compared to uninfected red cells; most of the glucose is metabolized to lactic acid. The parasite contains a complete set of glycolytic enzymes."

Essentially, you then get depleted levels of glucose in the blood plasma. This is very real. I've had it happen to me, too. I even had a couple low blood sugar results with regular blood testing after getting sick. I previously never had that before I got sick.
Posted 12/5/2015 3:38 AM (GMT 0)
Just an FYI...I have two kids fully igenex positive for babesia ducani. (Antibody and FISH) We live in the Midwest.

Xoxoxox
Posted 12/9/2015 3:00 AM (GMT 0)
Yes I live in the midwest too and I got babesia duncaii here. So much for that stain only being only on the West Coast.
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