Live Blood Microscopy - or dark field microscopy, ????

I would like to do this.....can you imagine showing Drs and Insurance companies this "see its right here,we better fix this sh@t"

Seems like you could target areas? that would be useful.

Interesting topic,thanks.

Hi,

There are some labs that do this officially (so not by asking a lab doctor that you happen to know) and they also release a report about the findings.

It is important to understand these results cannot be used to officially state that you have lyme disease, but they can be used to guide the practitioner into a certain types of tests that s/he would like to run. For example if the lab confirms there are spirochetes in your blood, then the practitioner would like to run tests on common spirochetal infections: treponema (syphilis) , borrelia (lyme) etc...

These may save a lot of time by going towards the right direction, so instead of trying to find autoimmune markers, run countless MRI/CT scans in search of a tumor that could cause the immune mediated chaos that a lyme person goes through, they will run tests that have to do with spirochete infections.

After this microscopy has shown that i have spirochetes in my blood and "Bartonella-like organisms inside erythrocites", they sent me about 5 short video recordings by email. Based on that i ran a broad spectrum WB on sensu lato, so several proteins from several borrelia species, and it was very positive, by all standards.

I also ordered IFM antibodies for Bartonella Hanselae and Quintana and got positive for Quintana.

I am from Europe, but i know that Fry Labs is running such tests (microscopy) in US.
frylabs.com/services-list/lyme-disease-borrelia-spp/

I'm not sure you are going to impress anyone with those movies. They will find all sorts of things to say, like oh "that lab is not ran doctors but by impostors" or something stupid like this.
Anyway, if you are not a lab doctor, you will easily confuse borrelia with collagenous tissue, and you will think you see lots of spirochetes, watch dr. Burrascano explaining this at one of ILADS conferences
/youtu.be/bULY7Dp1NDA?t=1669
So this test needs to be done by a certified lab doctor, that will check if the "fragment" has the shape but also the movements of a live spirochete.

FYI this is how the whole ILADS thing has started (Dr. Burrascano and Dr MacDonald), with a microscope in the basement of the morgue and tissue samples from chronic ill patients viewed under microscope
/youtu.be/H8t6j_HVTkA?t=392

Btw, John Caudwell (the UK billionaire with entire family lyme sick) has purchased a dark field microscope to watch the critters at home :)
it might be useful to read the comments people have posted to his new microscope pic:
/www.facebook.com/johndcaudwell/photos/a.708985199121134.1073741825.406796979339959/1128625090490474/?type=3&theater


So this is not something strange, it is just not accepted in our current medical system as standard test because you cannot do it on industrial scale, like millions of tests, they are not ran by a testing machine but by humans... so the statistics for false negatives and positives have to take into account how good the lab dr really is, the patience he has in searching the blood for spirochetes, etc. Human factors.

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I found ketes with lba under microscopy before docs n igenix did...there is great threads on it ."dude from Kansas"is culturing ..http://www.ebay.com/itm/40X-1000X-LED-Lab-Binocular-Compound-Microscope-/161434670331?hash=item25964194fb scope slides and oil immersion and you are scoping spiros g3t some stain and you are able to see babs..

fry labs did a good one for me

Mpost.
I agree. You can put forth an argument quite clearly. but the insurance companies (and medical establishment) only see through their narrow goggles. So they still won't get it!
This is not exactly the same thing, so it's a bit off topic. Nevertheless, I have done the ispot Lyme test twice to see the effectiveness of my treatment. And the treatment was not working. It helped me quit the antibiotics. I submitted the test for payment It was rejected. It was not their approved test for Lyme. No surprise. But on appeal the argument for use of this test was strong. I already know I have Lyme and have both lab corp and igenex to prove it. I didn't need to know if I had Lyme, but to what extent my body was still fighting.
They still only wanted to answer the one question. What do your antibodies say? Do you have Lyme yes or no.

So showing them the spirochete may not even be a game changer. They would still want to answer the question. What do your antibodies say?

Both my do and wellness clinic I go to use it. I live in Colorado and it is respected here for the reason I stated. To check to see if the treatment is working. I know someone who got sick again after being treated for Lyme and the test showed their issue is no longer Lyme, but something else. (It ended up being a co infection) So even with the Lyme antibodies present, the test can measure that the body has no more need to fight. I also got sick again and the test showed Lyme was my issue and the 2nd test showed the antibiotics did nothing to help. Thus I am doing herbs.

I did find out who does the microscope look at Lyme in Colorado. I am not certain I want to travel there and get this done. I know I have Lyme. However I am told they can see other gunk in your blood as well.