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Posted 4/15/2016 2:49 PM (GMT 0)
Hello!

I just heard on the Lyme Summit from one of the speakers that pulsing the herbs is a good idea. 12 days on 1-1/2 to 2 Days off.

But I have also heard not to pulse.

So I did some research and came up with two thoughts on this. One is to do one herb at a time with a day or two in between, the other is to do the herbs together so they work synergistically, pulsing in between.

Does anyone here pulse their herbs or take them separately? And if so has that worked well for you. Some of you have been at this for awhile and may have experience in pulsing and not pulsing and the benefits of each theory?

Thank you all, I appreciate so much being able to come here with these questions! turn
Posted 4/15/2016 5:11 PM (GMT 0)
I don't know if there are benefits to pulsing the herbs.

Pulsing for antibiotics:

- allows the persisters to come out of hiding...during off days...to be hit hard on the 'on' days.
- allows higher doses on the 'on' days
- allows the immune system to kick in on the off days.

With herbs - it is thought that when treating, the bacteria doesn't go into hiding, as it does with antibiotics.
...and the immune system does not suffer as much...if at all...

Also...I think the synergy of the herbs together - is important...to if you did pulse, I would take them all on the same day(s).
Posted 4/15/2016 5:38 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you Girlie, All the different information can be confusing to a Lyme brain.

Denise
Posted 4/15/2016 5:41 PM (GMT 0)
Lots of pulsing experience over here!

I agree with Girlie - some herbs are synergistic together.

That said, why not try pulsing from one synergistic herb-pairing to another? That is what I will do to start: two weeks on one protocol, two weeks on another. When I begine to feel better, that's when I will add some days off in between.

There are countless ways you can do it. Find what works for ya.
Posted 4/15/2016 8:30 PM (GMT 0)
That is a great idea! Thank you for responding =)
Posted 4/16/2016 2:00 AM (GMT 0)
You do have to be pretty careful with the herbs though. It takes time to get yourself up to the standard dosage.

If you take too much time off in between, you might have to ramp yourself up to the number of drops you were at before.

For instance, I stopped Samento once for about 4 days then tried to go back on the 30 drops. I got myself into a terrible herx with my BP shooting up to a dangerous level. It leveled off within a day, but it was silly of me to just jump right back in.

Just a precaution. Everyone is different.
Posted 4/16/2016 3:26 AM (GMT 0)
I'm curious if there is a way to pulse antibiotics that also avoids antibiotic resistance. I.E. How long stay on and off, etc.

For example I know a parasite drug- albendazole, they say to take it a few days and take a break from it for 7 days so you avoid developing a resistance to it.
Posted 4/16/2016 7:16 AM (GMT 0)
Some LLMD's do prescribe pulsing of lyme antibiotics. The 'schedule' varies.

One well known LLMD has patients take the abx M/W/F. After two weeks, take a week off.

Some do M-F and weekends off.

Are you taking albendazole for Babesia?
Posted 4/16/2016 1:20 PM (GMT 0)
Buhner advises against pulsing herbs - he's found that people relapse if they do so.

Pulsing abx is a completely different story since they work differently than herbs.
Posted 4/16/2016 3:47 PM (GMT 0)
I'm pulsing IV Rocephin 4 days on, 3 days off every week. I just started IV vancomycin and the pulsing schedule is still in flux but will hopefully be pulsing the same schedule so I continue to have 3 days off.

-p
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