Tooth and jaw pain

Hello everyone,

I am having pretty bad aching in my jaw on the lower right side. Almost feels like it is from ear to jaw to tooth. I am scared to death of dentists. I am so afraid it is the tooth.

I never get toothaches, could it just be Lyme? I haven't had this happen before. My head has also been hurting bad today.

Anyone else get tooth/jaw pain from Lyme?

Thanks for any help in this!

For a very long time and I do not suggest you going to a dentist YET.

Detox first.

Having someone prod and pry into your mouth is not want you want to do at this time. Give it a day or two and see if you can calm it down yourself.

I totally believe a dentist can pick and poke so much that it makes things worse.

Do you have cloves in your kitchen? Heat some water and put some cloves in it. When the water has cooled down to room temperature then take that water and swish it in your mouth and spit it out.

Cloves are very antibacterial and if there is a problem dentist wise, that will help alleviate the pain.

My jaw, neck and teeth pain was all lyme and I am so glad I did not go to a dentist for it.

But.... if this lasts for a couple of days and your are sure it is tooth pain, please go to the dentist.

There is nothing worse than mouth pain from and infection to me.

This was one of the first symptoms of Lyme for me. My jaw was so rigid first thing in the morning that it took a good half an hour before I could actually move it. I had no idea back then I had Lyme and went to the dentist, they extracted one crown, built another, extracted three more teeth which probably never needed taking out ...... I had lots of dental work, they ended up removing the second crown at my request as I thought everything stemmed from that. Had lots of abx mainly gave me clindamycin. I was so weak and the jaw pain persisted, Doc kept telling me it was all dental problems, I even considered having all my teeth out as by this time all my teeth were hurting, not toothache but pains in the gums, teeth and nerves of the tooth. This was also accompanied by many long and deep sinus infections. Those symptoms eventually went, the sinus problems only very recently so had recurring sinus infections for 6 years. With my jaw pain it lasted almost a year and has only come back occasionally first thing in the morning. The main benefit I found was oil pulling with coconut oil twice a day for 20 minutes each time.
I had a check up at the dentist yesterday - a different dentist to above as I used to live in Germany and have now moved back home since being ill to UK - and he asked what my oral hygiene routine is because he said they rarely see teeth and gums so immaculately clean !!! No plaque whatsoever.
I went through so much dental trauma which docs, dentist and myself thought was responsible for sinus probs, headaches, eye pain etc. etc. but I wish I hadn't had all the dental work and am just so glad I didn't proceed with having all my teeth extracted !!

Its awful Denikeef but hang in there and definitely try oil pulling, swish the oil round, only a tiny amount to begin with and just 10 minutes is fine to start and then once you have done that swill the mouth out with a warm salt water solution, I used pink himalayan salt. Hope you get relief soon.

Hmmm. Never heard of using cloves. I woke up this morning with 1 swollen gum (lol). I'm like really??? Last month I had more issues with the gums in terms of tenderness but I started using baking soda (preventative) with my toothpaste or sometimes just baking soda. That has been working fine. That's why I'm wondering if perhaps something I ate stuck my gum in that one place. It just seems absurd to have 1 tooth/gum affected. I guess I need to go back to the oil pulling as well. But will definitely check out the cloves of necessary.

Same here. Tingling numb left lower jaw line. Teeth feeling funny. Tender swollen gums. Not saying it can't be something else but these are well known and common symptoms of lyme and co.

A constant festering polymicrobial infection may be more of a cause than a symptom.
This can cause you immune system to wear down and prevent you from healing. It
also kicks off many terrible toxins inches from brain-think brain fog.
I know Dr Rau at Paracelsus and Dr Y both tell me that getting an infection out
of your jaw is the single strongest piece of the chronic disease puzzle.
Dr Mercola also has articles on this and the toxins that the infections would create-inches from your brain. Jaw infection are usually a mix of bacteria-fungal and parasite-including dental spirochete. If you get surgery they can send a swap to a lab called dental dna to see what bugs you are dealing with.
Please use a biological dentist who treats this type of infection-very important.

Last year I went on a Lyme and co infection protocol with LOTS of supplements and worked with a practitioner in conjunction with my LLMD. At one point, one tooth broke and one got loose. He told me these bugs love to hide out in the gums. I went to a biological dentist who did the work I needed. My gums constantly bleed and I would go with the oil pulling.

I just want to mention that I did oil pulling with coconut oil + 10 drops of Cinnamon or Clove essential oil for a year with minimal progress in this area.

I think oil pulling is really only useful to get toxins out of the gums, rather than antimicrobial substances into them.

What is working for me is a combination of:

DMSO - "Oil pulling" using DMSO in combination with essential oils / colloidal silver / ozonated oil will drive the antimicrobial substances deep into the jaw. There is no comparison with normal oil pulling.

Rife - the waves go right through the bone and will kill the bugs where they lie.

Infrared light - The waves penetrate about 4 cm into tissue and will increase circulation in these necrotic areas.

PEMF - Similar circulation boosting and healing effects as infrared light.

Facial lymphatic drainage massage - Peteza posted a youtube video of this recently - thanks!

I feel like these areas are extremely difficult to heal because there is very little circulation. The bugs wall themselves off in there and it's difficult for the immune system or antimicrobial substances to reach them.

I think dentists can eliminate major focal infections with proper surgery, but it seems like often for Lyme patients the issues in the jaw are pretty widespread. I don't think medicine/dentisty currently has a good solution for this. Ozone may help but its still hard to get it where it needs to go.

Someone posted Dr. Klinghardt's version of the head lymph drainage massage on the Spooky forum:

/player.vimeo.com/video/105587529

Bartonella also attacks the jaw bones. I've had tooth pain all my life - even after they were all removed. So I still get it! It's so odd when that happens! LOL!

I agree with PeteZa, start with increasing your detoxing, and if you can wait, keep on with treatments to see if it goes away. I've used everything marketed over the counter to deal with tooth pain, and would do it again. I've had some pretty horrible experiences with dentists simply because they had no clue about my infections and blamed the destruction of my teeth on me - even though I took really good care of them - so I was "man handled" as a child and ridiculed (yes, by dentists and their staff) as an adult. Now, I no longer stand for that, and give them a little lecture back.

I've had this for years. Never any problems with my teeth. It really hurts at times. I believe related to lyme and co.

Been living with this stuff for 45 out of the last 46 years of my life! Hate to say it, but much of this was just part of life for me, but get used to it? I don't know that I can say that.

You can try this photo - it's not real good, but it gives you an idea of what your lymph system is like. Those pesky lymph nodes are everywhere!!! LOL! you know how I like links!!
www.innerbody.com/image/lympov.html

I've been herxing all week long - no matter how many times I go through this, it's never really the same. I couldn't verify that it was a herx (instead of adrenal issues) until I had a sharp pain near my mid-throat area - I reached up and sure enough, a hard lymph node!! I massaged that poor little bugger and knew that I was going to go back into my herx some, but it would allow things to get back to my new normal again more quickly. We have to remember, those lymph nodes hold toxins - and when they finally release them, they will move through the body on their way out. It's best to increase our detoxing routines when we are doing lymph massages.

I have had to have several root canals and a few teeth pulled, but please know I think I have had this Lymes/Bartonella for over 20 years. I agree that getting rid of that infection or infected tooth asap is important.