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Posted 6/7/2016 6:00 PM (GMT 0)
How do you guys cope with severe brain fog and memory issues? I'm having such trouble as it effects all aspects of life. It's also so exhausting to continually worry and it leads to more anxiety (more than I already am!!!) about it. And the more anxious or revved my nervous system gets the worse it all gets. I know I have to accept it. Any tools?
Posted 6/7/2016 6:20 PM (GMT 0)
Had that, still do , some days better than others. Very common. Was at its peak when herxing. I had to speak on a 4th grade level with simple words. For me, only time made it better.

I worked with all of this. I work with things and on things in labs- no "customer" contact, so immpact on job was minimal. If I was in some type of sales "talking job"- would be impossible to do.
Posted 6/7/2016 6:22 PM (GMT 0)
It is awful isn't it. There are herbs that can help. In the latest Buhner book he reccomends:

Phosphstidyl-serine 100 mg 3x day
Ginkgo biloba, standardized 150 mg 2x day
Centella asiatica (gotu kola) 500 mg 2x day
Taurine 125 mg 3x day
Kudzu root 500-1000 mg 3x day (I take this)
Cordyceps powder 1 tsp-1 tbsp. 3x day
Vitamin D3
lion's mane 1 tsp powder 3x day

I actually felt some improvement with the core protocol for lyme
Jap Knotweed
Cat's Claw
Eleuthero Root
Ashwaganda (helps sleep)

Hope this helps!

Post Edited (Denikeef) : 6/7/2016 1:47:05 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/7/2016 6:25 PM (GMT 0)
That is interesting you said that Astroman! I went on disibility 1 year ago because I could no longer walk well, but my mind was beginning to affect my work. I worked with the public and I couldn't remember anything or think clearly to do my job. It is awful.
Posted 6/7/2016 7:19 PM (GMT 0)
This, among other symptoms, knocked me out of the career I spent decades building. I did public speaking and managed large groups of people. Tough to do when you can't remember the word "report" or "meeting". I'm still mad. LOL

Anyway, brain fog and the cognitive issues are likely due to toxins and inflammation. All good suggestions so far - I strongly recommend 3:

japanese knotweed for inflammation
And pinella and bur bur tinctures for brain detox - very, very critical to my protocol.

Also, huperzine supplements can help with brain functioning.

I really hope you get some relief - for me, cognitive problems prevented me from maintaining my treatment and detox protocols, which kept me in a vicious cycle for nearly a year. So thankful I'm past that.

-p
Posted 6/7/2016 8:02 PM (GMT 0)
I echo the thoughts of Japanese Knotweed. I had just learned bookkeeping and was being one and I could not add...... on an adding machine. My fingers could not remember the keys. I had to peek and then I was all dyslexic. It was horrible and glad my J/K helped me.
Posted 6/7/2016 8:38 PM (GMT 0)
yeah, that is a tough one - do you have moments when you speak "Lymish?" You know, like when you're in the middle of a sentence and all this "gibberish" comes out instead of actual words? I am used to my kids laughing at me and pointing it out when I do it, but when I am with people outside of the family and that happens, it is major embarrassing.
Posted 6/7/2016 8:52 PM (GMT 0)
Good support! For me, just grounding into the protocol, detox/detox/detox, trusting the flow. You have some great info. Sending you patience for your process and a wish that things improve rapidly!
Posted 6/7/2016 11:28 PM (GMT 0)
Shortly after joiningthis forum, I was suffering horribly with head pressure/pain and at the recommendation of P, PeteZa, and few I quickly purchased the pinella and burbur tinctures. What a positive DIFFERENCE they have made. Truly I cannot be without them at this time. about 2 weeks ago I added in the
japanese knotweed.

I do have a question though. What's the difference between the CNS/PNS NEURO-ANTITOX II (Dr. Jernigan) and the Pinella? Is it recommended to start with a few drops of this before taking recommended dosage?
Posted 6/7/2016 11:52 PM (GMT 0)
And what people always forget.......................this can also be a very common hypo thyroid problem- the whole brain fog thing.

And , these infections can hammer the he// out of your thyroid.

So get your thyroid checked, and "in range" will still have hypo symptoms if its in the lower side of "in range."

Not just TSH, but FT3 and FT4. Your cells dont use TSH, its just a hormone production signal from the pit to your thyroid.

Post Edited (astroman) : 6/7/2016 9:29:00 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/8/2016 3:24 AM (GMT 0)

astroman said...
And what people always forget.......................this can also be a very common hypo thyroid problem- the whole brain fog thing.

And , these infections can hammer the he// out of your thyroid.

So get your thyroid checked, and "in range" will still have hypo symptoms if it in the lower side of "in range."

Not just TSH, but FT3 and FT4. Your cells dont use TSH, its just a hormone production signal from the pit to your thyroid.

This....

I saw fantastic improvement with finally getting my thyroid levels optimal (not just within normal range). This meant a t4/t3 combo of meds.


I notice a slight decline in memory and cognition and word retrieval when I am herxing or when I am surviving that special "time of the month", but otherwise I am actually shocked at some of the things I can remember that I initially could not recall from 10, 15, or 20 years ago.
Posted 6/8/2016 2:18 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for all your suggestions. Since I am on other herbs and working closely with a doctor I haven't been taking my own. But I really need to do something. Just started Cats Claw and C. Silver for EBV. Maybe that is also causing Herx. Also have a cold and just got over fever. I do have Hashimoto Thyroiditis and on Cytomel and Synthroid already. Thyroid are in normal levels. She arm tests me on everything. Years ago I was on Pinella and now afraid to take because it set me off, too. I guess it's all about detox and haven't been keeping up with my epsom salt baths, doing dry brushing,Biomat, dandelion tea, but not much else. Maybe today I will try Alkaseltzer Gold. Thanks again for all your support.
Posted 6/8/2016 3:03 PM (GMT 0)
For me, it was more of a detoxing issue - as in I wasn't. It was during the time I was on pharma abx and before most everyone knew how important detoxing really was. I stopped treatment (was determined to be an abx failure) and started detoxing. It went very slowly at first - VERY slowly! But with continued efforts, my brain fog reduced, and other symptoms started improving some as well. I went from literally being on death's door, to only being house bound.
Posted 6/8/2016 4:09 PM (GMT 0)
I probably should try the alka gold but I'm concerned about it lowering my already low stomach acids.
Posted 6/8/2016 4:15 PM (GMT 0)
Krimpet, are you taking anything for your low stomach acid?
Posted 6/8/2016 4:22 PM (GMT 0)
The retrieval of words and my mouth feeling like it's in quicksand when I try to form thoughts/words is something I too experienced.

Got much better with treatment. Try herbs that cross the blood brain barrier. This should help.
Posted 6/8/2016 4:38 PM (GMT 0)

Traveler said...
Krimpet, are you taking anything for your low stomach acid?

Oh yes! I take betaine, acv, and digestive bitters. It's actually gotten better.
Posted 6/8/2016 4:54 PM (GMT 0)
Oh good!! I'm glad you are addressing this.
Posted 6/8/2016 7:22 PM (GMT 0)
I struggled with this a lot too. I noticed it was worse when I was stressed or frustrated, so I tried to give myself extra time to do everything (as a previous procrastinator, this has been a huge change in my life). Also, I decided not to get upset when I forget things or make mistakes. It's a part of my healing process, and beating myself up over it only makes it worse. I also created a daily checklist of all of my medical goals (taking medicine, walking, stretching, lymph node massage) and personal goals (do dishes, shower, read). This list really helped me in moments where I had enough energy to do something for 10 minutes, but not enough energy to decide what to do. I started it trying to be more productive, and it became a great tool to evaluate how I felt that week. More checks = more good windows.

It was hard for me to recolonize days I didn't feel so bad, because the brain fog made it very hard to remember and compare days. Now that my brain fog has lifted a bit, sometimes I think it was a natural safety guard helping me forget some of the very worst days.

Medicine-wise: I took Co Q 10, Banderol and Samento and then introducing Buhners the Core Protocol has really helped.
Posted 6/9/2016 12:26 AM (GMT 0)
Decart, mouth in quicksand! I like that. Then sometimes I know the word I want to say and it comes out another word. Or when I type… I reread it and a word is in there that I'm sure wasn't autocorrected!

Traveler… when you say slowly you mean like very small doses of herbs. I have done detox herbs and sometimes I could only take 1-2 drops. Some years ago with another relapse, I was working with another person and he had me on increasing drops of Nutrmetrix herbs and I crashed pretty badly. I'm just so tired of all this. And yes, when I'm stressed of frustrated by it, it certainly gets worse. I've never done major antibiotics. Only Minocycline, and another by mouth that I can't remember..no surprise. :).
Posted 6/10/2016 7:11 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you for above information as I also have those issues.
Posted 6/10/2016 6:32 PM (GMT 0)

emotions said...
Traveler… when you say slowly you mean like very small doses of herbs. I have done detox herbs and sometimes I could only take 1-2 drops. Some years ago with another relapse, I was working with another person and he had me on increasing drops of Nutrmetrix herbs and I crashed pretty badly. I'm just so tired of all this. And yes, when I'm stressed of frustrated by it, it certainly gets worse. I've never done major antibiotics. Only Minocycline, and another by mouth that I can't remember..no surprise. :).

Yes, if the body is already overrun by toxins, add more toxins in will only result in worse herxes. Have you had any of the gene mutation testing done yet? It's a quite common issue for those that have issues with detoxing enough.

I had to start off with the most basic detoxing routines and had to do it very slowly, as any time I released toxins, I would herx badly. Those were miserable and scary days of my life.
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