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Posted 7/15/2013 7:42 PM (GMT 0)
Hi,
Just looking for someone who has taken sida Acuta for Bartonella/babesia. Burners website is no longer taking questions, so I thought I'd see if anyone else has taken it.
So, I started off slowly and thought I was herxing after taking it, but then going with a gut instinct (and taking a big risk, which I never do, I always take less than even the lowest recommended dosage of things), I actually upped my dosages of sida Acuta a few days ago, and surprisingly I'm feeling better physically than before (still so far to go, but still better is better I guess), but now I'm worried I'm going to bring on a big herx. I posted on a different site dedicated to burners protocol and people were shocked that I was taking such a high dosage so fast and that I ramped up too fast (I'm still taking less than the recommended dosage, about 1/3 of the dosage). I know none of you are doctors and neither are those people, but I'm curious to find out if anyone has had an experience with this? I've searched previous posts can't find a lot of information on this.
Posted 7/15/2013 10:12 PM (GMT 0)
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Posted 7/16/2013 7:29 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Prarie,

I did take sida for about 2 months. 30 drops 3x/day. I do not know if it did anything or not but I hear - or so the doctors all tell me that whatever I'm doing, I've been recovering a lot more rapidly then expected. It is supposed to be a relatively safe herb as well.
Posted 7/17/2013 1:11 AM (GMT 0)
Our daughter has been taking sida actua tincture, 30 drops dx/day for 3 months now, and has had no huge herx from it. She has been doing well on sida, houttuynia, knotweed, teasel and allicin.
Posted 7/17/2013 2:03 AM (GMT 0)
Is anyone taking it with cryptolepis? Doesn't buhner recommend the two of these together for Babs? I am just starting the crypto alone.
Posted 7/17/2013 4:11 AM (GMT 0)
Did you both start at 30 drops or work your way up to that dosage?
Posted 7/17/2013 10:57 AM (GMT 0)
I started at 10 drops - many start at lower than that. Personally I haven't really had adverse rxns except to houttuyunia so I start at a pretty high dose and ramp up pretty fast.

Also, I did take the CSA formula for a little bit which has sida and crypto in it. I switched to just sida but once I finish this round I think I'm going to go back on the csa.
Posted 7/17/2013 5:50 PM (GMT 0)
Where did you get the sida acuta tincture?
Posted 7/17/2013 6:02 PM (GMT 0)
www.woodlandessence.com They have it in stock most of the time but sometimes you have to wait.
Posted 7/17/2013 9:28 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks. Just ordered some. Also ordered Cryptolepis and Alchornea. I want to hit babesia hard. I will be taking these herbs with Quina and Holy Basil also, then I will report back. I believe I have a latent babesia infection for over 10 years.

Post Edited (skBM) : 7/17/2013 3:38:22 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/27/2013 3:06 AM (GMT 0)
Wondering if anyone has updates on how you have done with sida acuta? Am interested particularly for Bartonella--but would welcome any info. about the herbs recommended by Buhner and how you have fared when using them.
thank you.
Posted 10/7/2016 7:48 PM (GMT 0)

levity101 said...
Wondering if anyone has updates on how you have done with sida acuta? Am interested particularly for Bartonella--but would welcome any info. about the herbs recommended by Buhner and how you have fared when using them.
thank you.

And now I am also wondering since I will be adding this and all shown below to the standard Lyme Stephen B Protocol next week. Only finished week 6 and just getting to full doeing on all herbs this week so this will all be adding a LOT more herbs. With no help at all so far, I hope this will get things moving.

Everything below has shipped and enroute
__________________________________________________________

Sida acuta tincture (from Woodland Essence or [email protected]) ¼ tsp 3x day for 30 days

Hawthorn tincture, same

Japanese knotweed, (tincture, same dose (from same sources as Sida acuta, above), or capsules from Green Dragon Botanicals 2 capsules 3x daily)

EGCG 400mg +- daily

Houttuynia (Yu Xing Cao – 1st Chinese Herbs, powder – use “LYME” code at checkout for 10% off) 1 tbl daily

L-arginine 5000 mg daily in divided doses

Milk Thistle seed, standardized, 1200 mg daily
All for 30 days.
Posted 10/7/2016 7:53 PM (GMT 0)

lucynethel (OR Just Mike) said...

levity101 said...
Wondering if anyone has updates on how you have done with sida acuta? Am interested particularly for Bartonella--but would welcome any info. about the herbs recommended by Buhner and how you have fared when using them.
thank you.

And now I am also wondering since I will be adding this and all shown below to the standard Lyme Stephen B Protocol next week. Only finished week 6 and just getting to full doeing on all herbs this week so this will all be adding a LOT more herbs. With no help at all so far, I hope this will get things moving.

Everything below has shipped and enroute
__________________________________________________________

Sida acuta tincture (from Woodland Essence or [email protected]) ¼ tsp 3x day for 30 days

Hawthorn tincture, same

Japanese knotweed, (tincture, same dose (from same sources as Sida acuta, above), or capsules from Green Dragon Botanicals 2 capsules 3x daily)

EGCG 400mg +- daily

Houttuynia (Yu Xing Cao – 1st Chinese Herbs, powder – use “LYME” code at checkout for 10% off) 1 tbl daily

L-arginine 5000 mg daily in divided doses

Milk Thistle seed, standardized, 1200 mg daily
All for 30 days.

Mike - You're already taking the JK for your lyme treatment, right?
Careful about how quickly you add all these in...particularly the sida acuta and the Houttuynia. LOW and SLOW.
Posted 10/7/2016 10:31 PM (GMT 0)
I start really slow. What I notice with myself is that my body is pretty shocked with each new herb. I start with 2-3 drops. But, I recover really well, noticing nothing... so I can increase several drops at a time. It took me 7ish days to get to 30 drops of Sida. I reacted a bit more from Sida than others, but still nothing terrible at all.

I am 30 drops of Cordyceps,Red Root, Jap. Knotweed, Sida and 20 drops Chinese Skullcap currently increasing Chinese Skullcap each day.

I am not sure which will be added next. I just ordered more today... some refills and some that I forgot to get initially or have read about since.
Posted 10/9/2016 12:12 AM (GMT 0)
Been on it for 2.5 months. Haven't noticed anything either way. Was thinking about ordering the dried herb and making my own tincture to save $$.
Posted 10/9/2016 2:19 AM (GMT 0)
quick search tip.. on the forums engine sometimes short words don't come up, engines avoid them.

to get around that, do a google search like this:

Sida Acuta site:healingwell.com

Google will properly grab the messages with those words in it. the benefit of google is you can also use advanced filters for example:

babesia symptoms -headache site:healingwell.com will give you posts related to babesia symptoms but exclude those with the reference to headache.

have fun

Caramba!
Posted 10/9/2016 2:31 AM (GMT 0)
If you use the forum search button (blue bar - on right) and type in lyme- sida acuta....or sida acuta - lyme you get a ton of information.
Posted 10/9/2016 1:34 PM (GMT 0)
Have taken it and gotten horrific herxes. You might not, but do be careful. That said, it seems to be good as it was hitting my neuro symptoms with laser precision.
Posted 10/9/2016 1:54 PM (GMT 0)
Hi,
My LLMD has me on sida acuta too. I am taking 8 drops in the am and 15 drops in the afternoon.
I think she wants me to do 15 drops three times per day.
I don't think I notice bad issues with herx. That being said, my symptoms are very odd. I have burning thighs and red, burning toes.
She also has me on a bunch of other stuff including boluke, that one causes me problems.
Are you on antibiotics too?
Posted 10/9/2016 1:59 PM (GMT 0)

twinkl1999 said...
Is anyone taking it with cryptolepis? Doesn't buhner recommend the two of these together for Babs? I am just starting the crypto alone.

My llmd has me on bolouke, is that the same?
Posted 10/9/2016 2:53 PM (GMT 0)
No, cryptolepis is not the same as Bolouke. Bolouke thins the blood, cryptolepis is par of the protocol for Babesia.
Posted 10/9/2016 7:13 PM (GMT 0)

skBM said...
Where did you get the sida acuta tincture?

For what it's worth, when the "big names" failed to answer their phones OR my numerous emails, Out of sheer desperation I "met" a seller on eBay (I know eBay???)sho had it. But if I ordered from him OFF eBay it was even less money and paid only $33.00 for 4 ounce Tincture. For better or worse I did the order, shipping IS included at that price and shipped next day on a Sunday first class mail. I am going to try him for several herbs as he asked what my condition was and gave me a LOT of information anf guided me free and his wife and family are patients as well. He was unhappy with the Tinctures he got from the #1 seller but said he had not tried Sage yet but hoped to soon. His frustration with the other guy is what led him to make it for hisfamily to get the quality and strength from the best SOURCE available because his wife was just too sick. Anyway, got mine at

/www.etsy.com/listing/223710489/sida-acuta-extract-tincture-lyme-bart?ref=listing_favoriter&atr_uid=17965111
Posted 10/14/2016 11:08 PM (GMT 0)
PS- I ordered this from his main page OFF of eBay so even cheaper (no eBay fees!) so here is where I found this and other tuff I am trying from him since I just finished up my the last of my 2 BIG orders from Sage Mountain Woman herbs. Oh and he can make these all the way up to 8 ounces. I got this in 4 ounce to see if it upset my gut but so far so good!

/www.etsy.com/listing/223710489/sida-acuta-extract-tincture-lyme-bart?ref=hp_rv
Posted 7/17/2018 8:18 PM (GMT 0)
Hello twinkl1999,

Buhner does say that you can take both the Cryptolepis and Sida acuta together. Starting with one at a low dose and slowly working your way up is usually a better way to do it. Once you are at full dose, then adding another botanical, such as Sida acuta the same way, can help you ease into both botanicals.

A site that has some basic protocols that Buhner uses below:

http://buhnerhealinglyme.com/

Best Wishes and God bless!
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