Theories why new abx regimen seems to work initially then doesn't?

So I've noticed on this site quite a few posts where people try a new regimen and it seems to work for a short time and then symptoms return and/or get worse. I know one theory is you get worse before you get better but too many times the 'better' doesn't come. This has happened to me as well on several new abx regimens mine seem to last about 7-10 days then I go back to if I never started the new regimen.

Any idea what's going on here? If this is indeed the case would it be more effective to rotate abx combos more frequently as opposed to staying on them months at a time which most people seem to do? Maybe the variety of killing throws the bugs off and they can't adapt quickly enough? Curious others thoughts thx.

just read it julymorning good information i definitely have had a change of thinking recently that just doing the killing is not even half the battle.

i guess the question is for those that don't have access to a center where one can go for weeks at a time and work with a team of doctors or don't have access to a team of doctors where they live what is one to do?

Rikky1 said...
just read it julymorning good information i definitely have had a change of thinking recently that just doing the killing is not even half the battle.

i guess the question is for those that don't have access to a center where one can go for weeks at a time and work with a team of doctors or don't have access to a team of doctors where they live what is one to do?

If you click on Lyme disease in the column on the right, thrre is even more additional information. I particularly liked this statement:

"While many doctors and people can point to remissions in individuals, brought about by antibiotic-type treatments, the ultimate role played by these drugs/supplements is over-glamorized, while the restorative functions of the human body is downplayed or ignored altogether. Health restoration is a function of the body, not a function of a drug."

Link:
davidjernigan.blogspot.ca/2013/01/lyme-disease-daily-health-tips-series_8.html

PeteZa said...
I have been saying this for a long time. You don't just go for the kill.

You heal parts that are injured, help parts to start working again and you eliminate bad stuff.

You teach your body to stave off lyme. That is all you do. I honestly do not believe you kill lyme.

Just like the many people that have lyme for years before they ever get symptoms???? Why did that happen??? Their body was functioning and keeping lyme at bay.

What happened to me was a weak time in my life and lyme came out to play. And this was months after I was bitten.

I am sort of proof of that nest to last statement. While I did get sick initially, and had many symptoms, even without proper diagnosis or any treatment I eventually got it under enough control to have a life, working and playing. I did have to always have to have full control over my daily activities or experience complete, debilitating pain where I needed days to recooperrate. ( Somehow my mind will not let me spell correctly tonight).

Eventually I was able to work like a demon with NO pain afterwords for a couple of years until my business failed. Shortly thereafter I was infected anew...which took me from zombie land again to fully functioning work demon for another 5 years. Then my first in hospital surgery started my relapse and the second surgery 11 years later drove me further back.



That being said, and I tend to believe this may be true for everyone that feel asymptomatic for a period of time-that the bacteria etc., are working slowly behind the scenes destroying valuable tissue while not inciting an inflammation response from the body. I think that human nature tends to shove any such isolated twangs of "what was that?" into the 'getting older' file.

" I think that human nature tends to shove any such isolated twangs of "what was that?" into the 'getting older' file."- Julymorning

Bingo!

I am very conscious of this and refuse to open that 'getting older' file. Lyme disease is not an age related issue as we all know.

Good health can be achieved well into the Golden years and beyond. My grandmother fell asleep one month shy of her 100th birthday. She never woke up. She lived in her own apartment and she was blind. She was active and of sound mind.

My grandmother addressed every little issue that presented itself. Every twinge. She seemed to have a remedy for everything. The one thing that sticks out in my mind is her cooking and food preparation. So wholesome. Fresh and nutritious. Varied.

I believe that we will be well once our immunity reboots. Our body needs time and support. I truly believe that antibiotics saved my life and were necessary to get me back on my feet. Tinctures, supplements, nutrition and moderate exercise have carried me to an encouraging level of wellness. I put a hold on everything for a bit recently. I had some pie, coffee and some cookies as well. Nothing too serious happened except for me living up to my handle as I BUZZED like a cellphone on mute.

Time, patience and consistency are my friends. I had become overwhelmed when I put things and certain people on hold. I needed to look at what I was doing and reevaluate. Simplify.

Done. I have chosen not to continue with antibiotics. I feel that my body is ready for the challenge. I am starting back on my supplements and eating clean. My remaining symptoms are mild and intermittent.

If all h*** breaks loose, you will be the first to know. My prescriptions are at the ready if needed. I so hope that my instincts are spot on.

Wishing you all success as you endeavour to heal and move forward.

Buzz

Stanislav i was in similar boat when bit quite healthy then it all went downhill and i still can't recover. I've had everything tested mold, yeast, mycotoxins, other issues. everything checks out fine including every piece of bloodwork i ever get done. so what's wrong with me? i can only conjecture my bug load is still too high or my immune system just sucks and can't handle the invaders meaning it'll need help for the rest of my life. we'll see.

Hello this has happend to me my theory is that the bacteria becomes resistent to me i feel i should switch every 15 days also i remember taking doxy for 15 days then bactrim for 15 days and after the 15 of bactrim i was 85%better but i no longer took the bactrim and my recovery cam yo ando end

Could be that the bacteria changed forms and has adapted to the antibiotics. Could be that the antibiotics aren't targeting the right bacteria. Could be candida. Could be you aren't detoxing (look into MTHFR as well). But as others have said, it's not just about killing the bacteria, you need to heal yourself on all levels by following an appropriate diet for Lyme, by detoxing, by supplementing yourself with nutrients that are lost because of Lyme bacteria.

If only...the yellow and black 3 x week pain pill is paying off(bvt)..i read in d.mau quoting dr k ...it doesnt matter what bug we kill if the one we kill is the one causing sx and likely we will never know which it was causing what ...thats why i love it it kills gram pos,spirochete viruses ,and protozoan and the only one im worred about is gram neg ...but i think it works on that too ...healing a whole other story ....maybe energy work (testing )art (kinesiologist?