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Posted 1/17/2017 3:08 AM (GMT 0)
I need some input on yet again another treatment plan.

Today I met with the lead doc at the Center I've been going to in NYC. I asked to meet with him after a horrible herx from a-bart (took only 2 drops) & what I felt was mishandled by the other doc I was seeing ( she brushed me off on the phone completely dismissed my concerns). He met with me for an hour to listen to my case. He is in ILADs member.

Based on my blood work, he doesn't feel like he can definitively say I have bart or babesia. He also doesn't see any inflammation markers on my labs like many of his lyme patients have but based on my symptoms ( aching feet, calves, heart palps/pain) he thinks it sounds like bart and other co-infections ( we know strep is definitely there).

He said he could either go after it with alternative treatments (ozone, collidal silver IVs, chelation) or antibiotics. Since I haven't been on an abx that treats bart for longer than 1 month I decided to try abx. Do you think this is wise? Or should I try ozone etc first?

He wants me to start zith (3 days on 4 days off). Since I had a major herx with zith last year when only on it for a week he wants to start slow. In addition, he wants me to start Plaquinil right away and then plan to add Rifampin when I'm ready followed by Mepron. He also wants me to to continue to Bicillin. HOLY ANTIBIOTICS. I went from taking bicillin only to taking 5 different abx. Does this sound right?

Part of me is uncomfortable starting the plaquinil at the same time of the zith isn't a good idea. I am super sensitive and what be able to make head or tails of my sxs. Is it okay to stage? Any other concerns with his approach?

I am so overwhelmed...thank you!
Posted 1/17/2017 3:41 AM (GMT 0)
Oh darling ...we got to these docs for guidance and they are just guessing ...he is wanting to start empirical babesia treatment and ignore bart til later and treat simultaneously? ..hmmm..
i have thrown everything at these bugs and believe that has been some of my chaotic success. However ...it either way they get paid ..

i have mixed and matched based on the severity of sympțms ...i know my life is in the balance ... how is your liver ...how is your constitution? How is your finances .?..after 2 months of using herbs and ivs i needed a port because my veins were tired and building scar tissue ...
So doc is addressing babs bart n lyme but all at once ..some do it that way ..has he tested cortisol ,iron ,done a giemsa smear ,pregnenalone ,hormones ,thyroid and heavy metals ...? It really takes a wholistic approach ...

my mom unknowingly had treated al) the other facets of health and now has a head start on lyme ...

supposedly bee venom and rife handle babesia rather easily.
i have a deadly form of bart ,i hate Rifampin and dont know if i can trust herbs to do it alone ..but am i going to take levaquin probablg not ...if 1 drop of a bart did that ..those meds may be a doozy ...
The path aint clear and its your choice but i know the easy way is not always the easy way ...if that makes sense
Posted 1/17/2017 4:15 AM (GMT 0)
That's a lot of antibiotics to take daily...some LLMD's who prescribe 4 or 5 will do a pulsing protocol...so not taken daily.

I hope you do add them in slowly.

Rifampin and Mepron together...might be a tough one.

I find Rifampin to be hitting me hard.
Posted 1/17/2017 9:45 AM (GMT 0)
I would do abx first only because they would be covered by insurance ozone would not be
Posted 1/17/2017 1:42 PM (GMT 0)
My personal experience with abx has been a positive one.

I have taken a number of combinations, but I never pulsed. I can't tell the difference between a herx and a flare up, the detox didn't do anything for me, and I was miserable for about 8 months.

But as long as I was able to work every morning and my liver enzymes were ok, I just braved through the day the best I could, then went home and watched tv.

Now I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, and if I had to do it again (as I may have to if it comes back), I wouldn't change a thing.
Posted 1/17/2017 3:51 PM (GMT 0)
I'm just so scared. I still feel very ill ( can barely get out of bed for work) from the a-bart drops. I feel like if I put another drop of any herb or abx in my body it will completely shutdown. My gut is telling me just try some ozone for a few weeks to see how I do...I am so torn
Posted 1/17/2017 4:01 PM (GMT 0)
Whatever you choose to do, remember it's your choice.

I would encourage you to really buckle down and work on your detoxing though. Being able to detox your body effectively is what will help you through any treatments, no matter what you choose to do.
Posted 1/17/2017 5:58 PM (GMT 0)
If I were you I would do the ozone (start slow). Is he offering supportive therapies with the ozone, such as Myers cocktails, glutathione, PEMF, etc?

Too much ozone can also produce a herx so again if you choose this route, start low. I started with 50 and worked up to 70/80 and I was fine there. Some folks can do 200 but not I. And please do not let anyone tell you that if you do less than 200 then you are not getting benefits from the ozone.
Posted 1/17/2017 6:41 PM (GMT 0)
This is a strong combo, just make sure you add all the abx slowly. And don't forget to detox enough.
Posted 1/17/2017 6:44 PM (GMT 0)
Yes he can give me supportive therapies like glutathione, etc. He agreed to start slow...do you think I show try UVB or direct ozone first?
Posted 1/17/2017 6:56 PM (GMT 0)
Actually he is recommending UVLrx therapy...
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