In hell right now...please help

Almost two weeks ago I had a glutathione and vitamin C IV at my doctors. This was the second time doing this. After the first time I herxed for a day but then felt great. Following my second treatment, I felt a little sick but chalked it up to herxing.

The next two days I took a total of two drops of a-bart. By Tuesday I was in the worse herx of my life. I literally felt poisoned. It felt as if metal rods were going into my skull. I was sweating all day and night, I felt just awful. I couldn't work all week. I immediately started with heavy detox (activated charcoal, infared sauna, etc.). By the weekend ( last weekend ) I slowly felt I was coming out of it.

Working Monday and Tuesday was rough but I toughed it out. Both nights I decided to take liposomal glutathione and within an hour all my symptoms came back and now (even after not taking glutatione for two days) I am in pure hell. I can barely get out of bed without feeling like I'm going to pass out, I have the weird sensation in my jaw, I can't eat, I literally feel poisoned.

My concern is that the glutathione is making me really sick and maybe was the main culprit versus the a-bart. I have read that some people can't tolerate glutathione particularly those who have mercury issues ( people theorizes it mobilized mercury without detoxing it). I have always been suspect I have mercury poisoning because all of my symptoms began about 2-3 months after having 4 amalgams removed by a non-holistic dentist. However, my provoked challenge test doesn't show high levels of mercury...

Additionally, I have taken liposomal glutathione ( never IVS) in the past 1.5 years without these symptoms. I am so scared and don't know how to come out of this. Could the sauna be making things worse? Is it possible I am still herxing from a-bart after almost 2 weeks!? My doc doesn't think I'm detoxing well and wants me to stop all supplements and come in for UVL treatment in a week. But what if the UVL makes me herx on top of this!? He thinks it will calm my system...

He also thinks mercury could be at play. I am so scared I will never come out of this and not be able to work & then my plan for treatment is over ( I have no financial support other than myself). Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you

Thanks. I'm just worried the sauna may mobilize more that my body can't detox? Especially mercury..is that possible??? I'm honestly thinking of going to the ER. I'm having kidney pain...

I also think stop everything - and get to a baseline.


Then...once you're feeling better....start very slowly adding back detoxing....one at a time.

Can you postpone the UVI for another week?

Just to see where you're at?

....unless you feel better in the next few days...then it might be worth a try.
I'm not familiar with the UVI treatment.

Darling, first of all, I'm so very sorry.

You do need to stop everything right now - absolutely no more treatments of any kind. You're body is overloaded with toxins, which is why you have a severe herx with everything right now.

Not only have I been in that position, but I have talked with several other members of this community who have been in this situation as well. Those that have chosen to follow their doctor's advice about just slowing down, instead of stopping everything have crashed very, very hard.

As has been suggested, go back to the more gentle ways of detoxing first - you can build up to the more aggressive means of detoxing as you feel your body will tolerate it. You certainly don't want to do more damage than you already may have from these infections. That's a deep, dark hole that is very difficult to get out of.

Don't do the UVI until your body is ready for more treatments - this may be a while, but you need to be careful to not create even more toxins that can push you 'over that edge'.

Darling first you need to breathe. Your body is doing what it needs to do, which is react. You have done quite a bit to aggravate the infections in your body.

My first question, is how much IV glutathione did you get and how quickly was it administered? IV Glutathione is very powerful and some people cannot do it. You may be one of those people.

And you did IV Vitamin C. That's another one that can be very powerful. How much did you get and how quickly was that administered?

As far as the UVL, I highly recommend you NOT doing this until things have calmed down considerably. This will just further aggravate your inflamed and aggravated body.

Right now you would be better off nurturing your body. Simple detox methods as listed by others. Nutrition.....herbs that support detoxing and minimizing inflammation.

And fear is only going to promote anxiety, which serves to further aggravate your symptoms.

You can and will get better....but stressing yourself further, mentally and physically isn't going to help.

Darling I'm so sorry to hear this. When I did glutathione in Fl, I did it as a push. I think like 50cc or something like that over a period of 20-30 minutes. I had it one time at a clinic after returning home from Fl and they mixed it in with heparin (I believe) as a drip. Well I will tell you I did not feel well after that. It only lasted a day or two but for me, I think it was the solution that caused me to feel unwell.
I know for me too many additives just don't work well.

Have you spoken with your doctor? If not, I think you need to let them know.

Vit c over 20g turns to h202 in the blood ...and can kill bugs ...also do you have the mthfr or the cbs gene ? On slows down the methelthlation pathway and the other cannot handle sulfer ...the other thing is do you have cpn ?
One faze of c . pneumonia is that nac will kill the round body form ..it is test of stratton to do high dose nac and see if you herx ..nac is the precurser to glutithione ..which is also a sulfer compound ....
same thinking is a bart has a lot of garlic ,you can smell and taste it which is also a sulfur compound ...maybe try a high garlic meal or msm and see if you feeli like poo...unless you can do 23 and me and genetic genie consult ?

Lyme is a nightmare ...living nightmare ...i was ok, once took 10 days of bactrim and now i have als like sx ....last year i thought i was going to die ..things get better it took a year of pressing full on with multi modalities ...you still have bvt and or rife as options .the only thing to stop the vasculitis was iv curcumin ....

Uvlrx will cause a herx not sure why your llmd thinks it's a good idea. Doing a 23andme test can tell you if you can tolerate glutathione or sulfur etc can tell you many things and it's only $99. Not super cheap but not horrendous either. I'm thinking it was the a Bart. They tend to be powerful I even know people who herded so bad on abart and a babs that they started hallucinating and never did before. The er would likely not be very helpful instead you should detox. This will pass I promise you just need to get the toxins out Of you

I am worsening as time goes on which is not normal for a herx. I have been at my parents and ended up in the ER yesterday because I tried to walk around the block with my mom and felt so faint, numbness and tingling. I still have this sensation of being poisoned. My jaw hurts, I'm not hungry, I have this new intense anxiety where I don't even want to go outdoors, my legs feel like jelly. I am truly horrified. The mercury forums I belong to think it's the glutathione but I just can't understand why that would suddenly bother me when I've been taking it for a year orally. They think it was the IV form that moved around the mercury and they think the only way for me to get through this is started low dose chelation per the andy cutler protocol. My llmd doesn't think mercury is my issue but I will say all my sxs started 2 months after getting 4 amalgams out .

On the other hand, I know how strong a-bart is and maybe it didn't agree with me at all. Could I still be feeling the effects of two drops two weeks later? I haven't been able to work in a week. I can't help but panic! I have no idea what to do!!

Thanks Purrrsiankitty. I am so sorry you have to deal with all of this as well.

Before starting the a-bart and glutathione I was able to go to barre classes! I had full body pain but was coping pretty well. Something is so out of whack now.

Based on my research ALA can be harsh for people with mercury problems as it pulls mercury from the brain. Andy Cutler believes one should start with small doses of DMSA of DMPS before switching to ALA. I may try his protocol...I'll keep you update.

Today I am feeling somewhat better. My doc is now recommending I try bentonite clay and assylum husk but I am so scared I will have a detox reaction and feel worse. Thoughts? I have never tried clay before!

Stop the glutithione. It makes me sick to. Have u done 23 and me. My genese dont allow bodybto deotx right and glutithione causes oxidattivr stress in turn making me much sicker. Be careful with the IVs