Anyone treat adrenals?

ChickenArise said...
Nascent iodine supplementation was responsible for recovery of my endocrine system.

PK, you felt better after receiving iodine which indicates a possible deficiency.

Iodine is the only essential element in the halogen group. The other halides we consume Fluoride, Chlorine, Bromine, are competitive for your body's iodine receptors and known toxins.

Iodine was the only halide that was ever meant to latch on to these receptors but the others are more competitive and crowd out this essential element.

Our bread provided much of the iodine in our diet until 1972 when the FDA mandate that Bromine replace iodine as a bread conditioner. Much of the world followed the FDA recommendation.

This was sold as a safety move to the public and iodine declared dangerous based on one medical journal publication and was then replaced permanently with a substance we have no doubts about it being toxic, Bromine. If it says brominated on the ingredient label, dont eat it.

We have become iodine deficient ever since.

This ranks up there with the 'silver amalgam' deception and it would have devastating effects on our overall health.

I recommend reading "The Iodine Crisis" by Lynne Farrow for some insight into this and how it has effected our overall health.

But before you run out and supplement I have to warn you that the detox of the other halides can be a bit harsh so you may get a little worse before getting better.

There are forms of iodine that are so strong and designed to be toxic, so research before acting.

Reading the book dispels many of the myths and misinformation even doctors have been sold with regards to iodine.

There is some info here
http://iodineresearch.com/
but the book is well written and worth every cent.

Going on the principle that food is always your best medicine, I recommend consuming more seaweed daily prior to attempting any supplement strategy because even the supplements that are designed to be safe are very potent. Supplementation took 2 months for improvement and 3 for endocrine issues to heal.

It was the only known natural supplement to treat a painful epididymal cyst that I was diagnosed with so this is how I ended up traveling down that road.

'Nori' is the seaweed paper that provides the edible outer wrapper to cooked sushi is a tasty and excellent source in its natural form. You can search it on amazon or go to your local oriental food store.

There are other benefits to consuming seaweed daily. Kale is a less preferred option. Little else even comes close as there is a huge gap down and then cranberry has a little, as does yogurt, and baked potato.

It takes longer to get better through food, but the detox is less harsh than supplementation.

Remember you are likely detoxing for decades of consumption of the toxic halides so supplementation by food sources is the safest and least harsh way.

You would have to make provisions to remove the other halides Fluoride, Chlorine, Bromine from your diet altogether or else it cant help. This may mean no more bread or make your own. Difficult but worth it.

If you are on thyroid medication, consult your doctor, but understand much like Traveler's Endo there are not properly educated on the subject and have been fed propaganda in med school and the medication will also negate the benefits.

I am sorry to say that Bromine in our bread, Fluoride and Chlorine in our water, is one of the many things that have been done intentionally to keep us needing doctors, and paying into the medical system.

thanks for all that. I'm so overwhelmed right now, and totally confused. I'm going to have a difficult time getting what I need from food sources. I have so many gut issues and there is so much I cant eat. I'll take any further suggestions from anyone on how to get this done. Thanks again

I have heard that ashwaghanda lowers cortisol, then I've heard that it's an adaptogen (can swing it high or low) depending on the need. Because of that, I have backed off some.

However with regard to adrenal treatment, I started with Thorne adrenal cortex, then found that it wasn't enough, so my doctor put me on low dose hydrocortisone. I was taking 10mg with the adrenal cortex. I did this from mid-December to the end of February. I stopped because I began having panic attacks after taking my morning dose.

So my other doctor told me that I really should have never been on it because my adrenals weren't that low. In my experience, low hydrocortisone actually made my situation worse. I've had a time and a half trying to find a replacement. I've gone through a couple of adrenal supplements trying to get on an even keel.

Since stopping, my fatigue had gotten much worse, with dizziness. More muscle aches...headaches, digestive issues, etc. Even though I have been taking adrenal cortex supplements. Most recently I started adrenal by pure encapsulation and licorice root. The dizziness for the most part has abated. Thank God. I am doing 2 of those pills, 4x a day, with licorice root as necessary.

Lesson learned. Unless you really need hydrocortisone, stay away. Try other herbs and adrenal supplements and support. For some, the hydrocortisone only makes things worse.

I have ashwagandha in both my thyroid supplement and my adrenal supplement. My ND "prescribed" both, and in the beginning if we increased one, we generally decreased the other. So I would trust her judgement. Perhaps it's only good in the proper dosage. Personally, I felt great on both until Lyme hit. And considering the horror stories I'm reading here, I think i'm doing pretty darn well for having a year of Lyme and Co.

One more reason why, when I tout the wonders of naturopathic medicine, I add a disclaimer to get your own personal body systems tested by a professional to make specific recommendations. Too many natural supplements and vitamins are available on the shelf and people read the internet and start self-medicating without having any idea what they're doing to their bodies.

I know it's stated many times in these forums, but i'll say it again- we are not doctors and cannot tell you how to treat, only what works for us, and suggestions of what to ask your doctor.

Yes, doctors and especially LL ones are expensive, but harming yourself through ill-advised remedies will be more so. And every single one of us is different. You cannot adhere to the advice of everyone here or you will be contradicting yourself.

And so I don't offend anyone, or kick myself for saying such things, this is not aimed at any particular question or response, (except saying that ashwagandha has not been a problem for me). I think everyone's been asking and receiving advice with this warning in mind, but in case you're tempted to forget, don't! This forum has been a great help to me. I just know that in the weirdest darkest parts of Lyme, I myself tend to grasp at anything and everything for relief, and I have to remind myself that I trust my practitioners and they know my body better than the internet.

I freak out when someone says "don't do this or that because..." and i hyperventilate because i might have been doing it and my doctors lied to me and panic panic panic... only to sort it out and ask questions, and find that I was fine all along!

You're right - I imagine the small bit of ashwaghanda that is included in many adrenal supplements is not going to be a problem. I'm just relaying my experience of taking large amounts of it daily, because you don't know what the effect might be.

jlESVA said...

Traveler said...


Finally, we had words, and I fired her over her office politics, and a few days realized that I had just cut off my med supply! LOL! Total panic set in for a few hours, but I remembered using an over the counter homeopathic remedy for thyroid and adrenals previously, when I was being treated for Lyme and company the first time around - so I went back to them only using a higher dose and I started Ashwagandha a few weeks later.

Curious to know what the remedy was?

Oops, Sorry! I promise, I meant to include that information! It was NatraBio Homeopathic adrenal and thyroid supplements. I'm still using those and ashwagandha and healing well.

While I do agree with Klagh about being extremely careful with any suggestions on here - there are many of us out on a limb and doing this on our own. I do suggest that those of us in that position still take the time and find the money to do our own testing before assuming we have low adrenals or thyroid. When we mess with hormones, we are messing with a very "deep" part of our bodies, and we NEED to get it right.

And Klagh, I'm in the same position as you. Although I'm a bit younger, my health needs are more than partly driven in order to be here to help my husband that has complex health issues - and a bit of selfishness in that I want to do more than just sit around the house when he doesn't need my help!

"I was told by his staff that often when the adrenals recover, thyroid treatment may no longer be required."

This is my understanding as well, after doing a few years of research because I was left to treat myself.

I've been looking at Schizandra (the herb) closely myself. It's what I feel may be right for me in the fairly near future, as so far I'm healing my adrenals well - and of course the thyroid is following suit with good treatment too.

Lyme is the ultimate 'monkey wrench' in my opinion. It will mess up anything and mess with the treatment of nearly everything. LOL.

Klagh, some ended up finding their way to parasite treatment, come come away from their LLMD telling us they need to treat that before the Lyme.

The only thing with what you've said that I would caution you with, unless you've shown to have no sensitivities to anything so far, is that the problem with all in one combined powders and tinctures, etc., you can't know which part is making you herx, and you can't separate that one out from the rest to either reduce or cut out. So you end up having to reduce all of it, or cut it all out.


Just something to consider and prepare yourself for.

Actually, those Epsom salt baths are too much as well, by the reactions you are having. What they are doing for you is what they do for me - get too many toxins into the bloodstream and the body can't detox them out fast enough. Please do slow down, remember this is a marathon of grand proportions!

I only use foot soaks because of my reactions, plus a ton of other detoxing routines so that I'm using as many detox pathways as possible every day.

I would also suggest that if you choose to use this combination therapy, that you start off with a very, very small amount - like around 1/8th of a teaspoon or less. This is for the reasons that Julymorning stated, plus, you know that you aren't detoxing well yet. You can overload yourself with toxins, and herx badly if you aren't detoxing well.

My suggestion is to slow everything way down. Take your time in this, as long as you are making forward movement, you are gaining ground - but if you overload your body, then we have to stop everything, and take a break just to detox - and feel really miserable. None of us wants that.

Oh no, you and I are far from the only one that have issues with full body Epsom salt soaks! Not a lot of people have issues with them, but quite a few do find that they can move too many toxins all at once!

Remember, slow and easy with everything.

I agree!! Thanks.

Awesome​ !

Thanks Silver!

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